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Ann Otoole · 08-20-2011, 04:56 PM

I feel it is time for a musical interlude while we await the inevitable Legion of Doom's awakening.

Gary Numan - Pure - YouTube

Slave - Gary Numan - YouTube

Torn - Gary Numan - YouTube

Astolat Dufaux · 08-20-2011, 04:57 PM

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Rxx has a number of health issues, some severe enough to be eventually life threatening (read this as "thinks he has nothing to lose"). In specific, Rxx has epilepsy, a condition which severely limits one's lifespan in extreme cases. It is not known how severe Rxx's case is, but he was given a depressing long term prognosis by his doctor in spring of 2008.

This is extremely upsetting to me. Regardless of his reputation and activities, it's just none of anyone's business what his health conditions are.

Shame on you.

**Velvet Bikcin** · 08-20-2011, 04:58 PM

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[09:48 AM] Zania Turner: The reason why I don't have a problem is because I
trust all of you

Good for you Zania, well, we don't.

ZIMBABWE · 08-20-2011, 05:00 PM

astolat has the cancer andhe is emo l;olol

posting frim ALBANIa

zip paz · 08-20-2011, 05:01 PM

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Rxx has a number of health issues, some severe enough to be eventually life threatening (read this as "thinks he has nothing to lose"). In specific, Rxx has epilepsy, a condition which severely limits one's lifespan in extreme cases. It is not known how severe Rxx's case is, but he was given a depressing long term prognosis by his doctor in spring of 2008.

what the FUCK?
WHY is this IN THERE?

NotoriousD · 08-20-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern Excelsior

I can't believe you of all people don't know how to use an Internet proxy server.

Whether people can proxy their way into the website isn't the problem. It's that they were banned in the first place for trying to post disagreeing arguments.

zip paz · 08-20-2011, 05:03 PM

That's it comic book and sci fi nerds.
Execute Order 66.

Wait that's Jedi.
Execute Order 65.

Code Slacker · 08-20-2011, 05:04 PM

I wish I were joking when I say this, but they banned my IP for simply pinging the site once to check if it was down or not.

zip paz · 08-20-2011, 05:07 PM

I can't even express the level of anger at them posting info about someone's health to their datamine brainiac wiki.

Also wasn't brainiac supposed to be smart? This is completely retarded.

ZenMondo · 08-20-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenMondo

It occurs to me that in a thread made up of accusations and very little evidence It may be enlightening to illustrate what it looks like when your IP has been detected by a second life device. It looks like this:

This is a packet of a redzone device I captured with wireshark. In it you can see the entire GET argument including all the information from the scripted devices using zfires simple substitution cipher as well as the working environment from which this packet was captured (the second life viewer)

How I obtained this was simply teleporting to a region (Triggerfish) that had a redzone device and allowed myself to be captured by that. But ladies and gents any connection he had with me, I had with him as well. The internet is as they say, a two-way street.

So here is a little Experiment. Get the Packet Sniffer of your choice, teleport to Second Life Maps | Taber Which is right next to an Enforcing Phantom Zone Device and share your work. That way you don't have to take mine or Aether's word for it (in fact Aether did not ask you to take him at his word but use reason). You can see for yourself. If anyone needs help working Wireshark, I am just an IM away.

Its my suspicion our detractors will be working with photoshop more than wireshark which is why I urge those reading to try it for yourself.

This seems to have gotten lost in all the accusations and cross-accusations So I will make it a little bit clearer. When people were looking at redzone it was possible, and many people did independently verify redzone was in fact collecting information via the media exploit. I have clearly above outlined how one can likewise independently verify if a Phantom Zone node is doing similar behavior. No one has yet done this and share the results all that we have is a list of IP addresses associated with avatar names that could have come from anywhere, in fact the list has no region information so there is no information as to WHERE it was gathered. Nor to my knowledge has any one on the list come forward and say "yeah that's my IP address" to verify the veracity of the list.

It seems to me that most of the participants of this thread come in with their opinions already set in the matter instead of looking at in an objective manner only looking at other things that come to light (such as year old chat logs) as a kind of confirmation bias. Nothing I nor anyone else will say will dissuade you from your prejudged bias, of believing a lie specifically designed to push buttons (it collects IPs just like red zone!) that you disengage the intelligent facilities I believe you have and just run with it, instead of investigating it yourself.

Go to Second Life Maps | Taber Run a packet sniffer, do what you want, file an Abuse Report if you think its founded, again, citing your evidence, or alternatively rage on a forum and post pictures of cats.

NotoriousD · 08-20-2011, 05:09 PM

I was IP banned around a week ago for calling them out on some old bs. Took maybe a whole of five minutes to run a ping to check if their server was up, use a proxy to get in, and then post. Oddly enough that post appears removed now.

Kara Spengler · 08-20-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Modified Quote

[10:22 AM] Kalel Hitler: We are the Nazis. I can't think of any country that can be trusted more with nuclear weapons.

About time for a Godwin.

ZIMBABWE · 08-20-2011, 05:10 PM

i find the servr is not up so much!!!!1!

zip paz · 08-20-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kara Spengler

About time for a Godwin.

Hey I did it yesterday. We're allowed 1 a day.

**Velvet Bikcin** · 08-20-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenMondo

This seems to have gotten lost in all the accusations and cross-accusations So I will make it a little bit clearer. When people were looking at redzone it was possible, and many people did independently verify redzone was in fact collecting information via the media exploit. I have clearly above outlined how one can likewise independently verify if a Phantom Zone node is doing similar behavior. No one has yet done this and share the results all that we have is a list of IP addresses associated with avatar names that could have come from anywhere, in fact the list has no region information so there is no information as to WHERE it was gathered. Nor to my knowledge has any one on the list come forward and say "yeah that's my IP address" to verify the veracity of the list.

It seems to me that most of the participants of this thread come in with their opinions already set in the matter instead of looking at in an objective manner only looking at other things that come to light (such as year old chat logs) as a kind of confirmation bias. Nothing I nor anyone else will say will dissuade you from your prejudged bias, of believing a lie specifically designed to push buttons (it collects IPs just like red zone!) that you disengage the intelligent facilities I believe you have and just run with it, instead of investigating it yourself.

Go to Second Life Maps | Taber Run a packet sniffer, do what you want, file an Abuse Report if you think its founded, again, citing your evidence, or alternatively rage on a forum and post pictures of cats.

We are waaaaaaaaay past this Zen. We're now wondering why you're sharing private health information about people who have no business knowing it.

If I were you, I would just slink out the door, technical workarounds be damned, what the JLU is doing is despicable, beyond arrogant, unethical and pfft, I need to get a thesaurus I'm so mad right now.

Kara Spengler · 08-20-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheListSL

Ask and ye shall receive:

*pout* What about the rest of us?

Tux · 08-20-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenMondo

Go to Second Life Maps | Taber Run a packet sniffer, do what you want, file an Abuse Report if you think its founded, again, citing your evidence, or alternatively rage on a forum and post pictures of cats.

Doesn't Taber have Krypton Radio on the media stream? Is this linked to brainiac too?

Superman Theme Song - YouTube

**Elysium Hynes** · 08-20-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenMondo

..do what you want, file an Abuse Report if you think its founded, again, citing your evidence, or alternatively rage on a forum and post pictures of cats.

Would you mind filling that questionaire i did for Mr. Green Latern? i really need at least one paragraph on your medical history so i can evaluate your posts and protect other SLU posters from unecessary groans, laughs and lolcats, because your medical history is relevant to your posting on this forum.

Sione · 08-20-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenMondo

It seems to me that most of the participants of this thread come in with their opinions already set in the matter instead of looking at in an objective manner only looking at other things that come to light (such as year old chat logs) as a kind of confirmation bias. Nothing I nor anyone else will say will dissuade you from your prejudged bias, of believing a lie specifically designed to push buttons (it collects IPs just like red zone!) that you disengage the intelligent facilities I believe you have and just run with it, instead of investigating it yourself.

Go to Second Life Maps | Taber Run a packet sniffer, do what you want, file an Abuse Report if you think its founded, again, citing your evidence, or alternatively rage on a forum and post pictures of cats.

Actually personally I assumed you weren't stupid like zFire and would have pulled anything remotely visible the second this started.

TheListSL · 08-20-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kara Spengler

*pout* What about the rest of us?

Good things come to those who wait

Tick followed tock followed tick followed tock followed tick

Good Things Come To Those Who Wait - YouTube

zip paz · 08-20-2011, 05:18 PM

OH CRAP I forgot. I'm in a sketch comedy group and I played Superman (while wearing a bizarro superman sweater).

Super Powers Suck! - Silver Spike Productions - YouTube

**Velvet Bikcin** · 08-20-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenMondo

It seems to me that most of the participants of this thread come in with their opinions already set in the matter instead of looking at in an objective manner only looking at other things that come to light (such as year old chat logs) as a kind of confirmation bias. Nothing I nor anyone else will say will dissuade you from your prejudged bias, of believing a lie specifically designed to push buttons (it collects IPs just like red zone!) that you disengage the intelligent facilities I believe you have and just run with it, instead of investigating it yourself.

On one side:Chat logs, anecdotal evidence, past experiences, proven intrusions into RL by JLU members.

On the other side :"we didn't do it! Waaaa!"

ZenMondo · 08-20-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tux

Doesn't Taber have Krypton Radio on the media stream? Is this linked to brainiac too?

The Krypton Radio Music Stream has nothing to do with Brainiac, it is simply a service of listening enjoyment.

**Elysium Hynes** · 08-20-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenMondo

The Krypton Radio Music Stream has nothing to do with Brainiac, it is simply a service of listening enjoyment.

Do you also provide healthcare? Cause you seem too keep a lot of medical info on people. I knew the Healthcare system was different in the US by i never thougth the doctors wore a cape.

Sione · 08-20-2011, 05:22 PM

oh and another thing. Year old chat logs are completely relevant when judging the character of saviours about to unleash a linked ban system for free on the grid for the "benefit of the community".

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zip paz Senior Member Ban Prok Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 669	That's it comic book and sci fi nerds. Execute Order 66. Wait that's Jedi. Execute Order 65.

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