Menchor Barbosa

My PDS Security orb will scream at you if you get too close to it.

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Youth and strength can almost always be overcome by old age and treachery

Kara Spengler

Why not? Not only is it accepted practice with free software, it shows you have nothing to hide and invite public scrutiny.

After all, you are giving the thing away for free, right? So if we can not see the code there must be some string attached. What is that string? That we can not see the code and have to trust that it does what you say is pretty telling!

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AEther

Yes, creating a ban on a network which has the "sharing" option turned on has the potential for creating a global ban, which networks that have "trusting" turned on will honor unless it is overridden with a local pass. How long such a global ban lasts depends on the number of networks in the system on which that resident is banned.

No, there are plenty of options available to you, and to land owners and managers of course. The sky is the limit, really. There are all kinds of communication methods available in Second Life, and nothing we do restricts you or PZ users from employing them. If PZ users wanted to suggest other features to include in the actual system for being able to communicate between networks, we'd be quite open to listening and considering the possibility too. You could contact the owner of the land on which you found yourself banned; you could contact a manager who has been added as an admin on their network if they choose to share such information with visitors; you could ask some other PZ user to check out what bans and reasons are in the system; you could contact a JLU member. Some of these might give you a direct way of getting the ban removed, and others will get you the first link in the investigating chain.

On the other side of the coin, I think you'll be able to see that it would be undesirable for the owner of a security system to have bans they have chosen their system to implement be yanked out from under them by those very people they chose to set their policy to ban just because the owner is offline. That would go a long way toward negating the value of the system.

We are providing the PZ system and service free of charge as a benefit to land owners and the community as a whole. If you own land and don't want to use it, don't. Anything else is between you and the owners of the land you choose to visit. Do you trust them to use a security system (or lack thereof) that is appropriate for their individual situation? If so, no sweat; let them worry about it. If not, why would you want to visit anyway?

Honestly there is a maintenance cost to operating this system in terms of the JLU's time and energy (and perhaps money as well, but I don't have a great deal of visibility there). If few people need or want it but it gives them great benefit, we (or I, at least) would be quite happy. If no one needs or wants it, that would be a great sign in my opinion, and we could rejoice that built-in SL security tools had progressed to a wonderful degree and griefing was largely a worry of the past (trust me, nothing could make the JLU happier than for what we do security-wise in SL to become obsolete). If lots and lots of people want it, we'll do our best to provide the required service. So far we have seen a great deal of desire for such a system, and many folks seem happy about the design and feature set we are providing and continuing to develop.

If people truly understand the system and don't want it, that's a good thing; if people don't want it because they need something to fill the hole and they have been misinformed about the PZ by others with malicious intent and/or a lack of understanding, that's very unfortunate.

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Ryokashi

Hewee what about you manually adding people to a blacklist? Your whole griefer list is automatically added to a global banlist. I was on it originally for being a part of the Goatse Lantern Core, which was a harmless parody group that never did any form of griefing.

And they are only giving Phantom Zone away for free because they are not allowed to sell it with that name.

I'm IP banned from reading Krypton radio for leaving a comment Kalel didn't like because he tried comparing us to terrorists which was a really stupid thing to do!

Tux

Really? Wow!

zip paz

The JLU tries to control Secondlife. They're giving away a system of control that they can control from behind the scenes.

They're giving it away because they want to control the grid.

Serendipity Undercroft

Let's talk to the JLU nerds in a way they might understand.

AEther

Yep. Really. Hence my contribution to this discussion.

Ryokashi

Hewee!! I'm still banned from Krypton Radio! How can I read Vagabond's extremely high quality posting if I cam banned from even reading it!

ZIMBABWE

use VPN like me mr rykasho i now listening from belgium heh heh heh hehe

Sione

Hewee, after almost falling off my chair reading the sincerity in your response (and I do believe you are). I am just going to reinforce what others have said to you, get out now while you still can. If you truly think that you are making something that benefits the community as a whole and JLU is funding it for no gain to themselves, you are going to go down with it.

zip paz

BATMAN DID IT SO IT MUST BE COOL.

Tux

As it seems parts of the wiki have been outed yet again, even after Kalel saying it cannot be done, isn't it worth either purging it or publicising it? Just saying . . .

NotoriousD

Ugh, did I really make an account this morning and read almost half of this thing?

Eh...I was going to say something, but it's already been said, by Huns some pages back.

I've seen nutjobs in real life, people who did crazy things like believe that they were always right or the more asinine things, one such case in which someone felt that she was in "God's grace" and he was always on her side...

So I can easily tell a self-deluded person when I see them sometimes. The core members of this group aren't covering up or pretending that they are right to the general populace.

They also believe it themselves, deep down inside. They hold the self-asserted view that they are not wrong. In particular, Carter, Timtam, and Venkman, definitely appear to be diagnosed with this unsightly disorder.

Eventually, in real life, they will either realize that they have wasted much of it on this, or they will die in self-delusion, thinking of themselves as heroes. What a disgrace to real heroes...

TheListSL

Well, well, well. A second JLU member has come forward with information regarding Braniac and the inner, corrupt workings of the JLU. It makes for an interesting read and doesn't exactly help them given what is coming out (not that I want to help them).

* removed link *

ZIMBABWE

this peple seem for be to old to realise to change at this age also hi from kazahkstan!

zip paz

Kalel says on that page that it identifies him and someone else as an alt

"because we share an IP address."

Hm.

Code Slacker

This just keeps getting juicier. Also wow, TG on PZ, that's ridiculous.

zip paz

ALSO JLU WHY CANT YOU KEEP YOUR WIKI SECURE? You datamined all the information on people and now it's not even secure? How many people are being affected by this?

Kara Spengler

Okay, consider the JLU being told by SL that WE DO NOT WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Robble Rubble

This is the JLU talking about me.



These people are fucking creepy. I am okay with posting this image since it's my info they are scrambling for.

Tux

This is a joke right?

Code Slacker

I'm afraid not. -_-

Tux

Also:

Backend server-to-server tie-in Brainiac? Never dealt with IP's my backside!

zip paz

Do I need to change credit card info, my phone number, or even move because of the JLU's insecure brainiac wiki keeping all this data on us? How terrible is this breach? I don't think Secondlife should wait before making a statement to people on how their data may be affected. After all Sony waited when they got hacked and look how bad that turned out.

I didn't sign up for the JLU wiki like I did Sony. So why should they have any info on me?