Couldbe Yue

slu is a broad church, we welcome virtually everyone - no matter how badly they've behaved.

To get turfed from here is hard but some have managed it.

I do have to laugh though - you sound like a parody of countless thousands of the poor souls who have been griefed inworld and feel so frustrated that no matter what they do the little darlings seem to keep coming back. They get banned from inworld and the sense of entitlement means that they ignore the gtfo and just create a new account to go back in and carry on.

rinse and repeat - just like here, except we just let our lot keep going rather than making them go through the effort of creating a new account.

this is a mastercard moment.

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Han Held

It is to us, and there's usually a method to our madness.

At this point you're talking about a difference in forum culture and you're right --this is distinctly NOT Somethingawful, it's not going to be and I'd stop giving Cristianio my :tenbux: (points to my supporter tag) if he ever decided to take SLU in that direction (and I wouldn't be alone in that).

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with eyes closed
misunderstanding all you read

Elysium Hynes

We are all Joshua´s alts.

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Innula Zenovka

Many of us who enjoy SLU and are content with the way Cristiano runs his forum would disagree with your assessment, I think.

If you don't want to read here what Prok or her cats have to say, as I don't, then put her on ignore, as I did the day she rejoined, on the argument I can (and sometimes do) read her blog if I want to know what she has to say.

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Han Held

"We". As in "we who read and post on SLU that wonder why the fuck Prokofy Neva is indulged in hir proclivity towards flaming, trolling and thread-shitting".

IE: the people who come to this forum hoping to read threads free from psychotic, angry, wasted-engineer-style rants.

Joshua Nightshade

Well, I wouldn't say that any of that really sounds very appealing to me.

As for Prokofy, I don't really think she's trolling. I think her mental reality exists in a completely different realm than that of a normal human being, and she's trapped in some kaledoscope where fractal spectres of stalkers and harassers and attackers are surrounding her from all sides and seeking to antagonise and ruin her, but only she can stand strong and fight against it! Actually there are some parallels to the JLU in the first place, they're all insane and fighting enemies of their own antagonisation.

She was banned before several years ago because she was being abusive and insulting, and that's really what Cris' rule is. Not name calling here or there, but a general sour nastiness which accompanies them from thread to thread to thread and makes the environment poisonous.

I would certainly agree that I don't think Prokofy ought to be here (especially with the prior ban, which wasn't so much lifted as forgotten to be re-implemented when Cris switched forum software) but actually believe it or not this current incarnation of Prokofy is largely concise (I'm serious!), largely polite and confines herself to a handful of threads every couple months. That's probably why Cris really isn't doing anything about it, because she isn't anywhere near as foul as she used to be.

It's not restraint so much as the fact that I was on a plane for ten hours a couple days ago and I haven't been in front of my computer most of the time since then, so I have lost the thread almost completely by now. But, that's also kinda my point; I had an investment earlier on and it's just too long for even me to keep up with, so ancillary people probably stopped paying attention long before the thread got Prok'd.

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Cathiee McMillan

Prokofy,

Question to you is HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY AREN'T my family?

You know nothing about me!

See thats the issue you don't know alot of people don't know who they are talking to in SL. We show each other who we want to be.

So why take the chance and try to collect real life info on people.
its a dangerous game the JLU are playing.

I would not take that chance in SL.

Ashiri

I'll act as a place-holder until the un-biased reply.
As long as media is enabled in the viewer and the media filter does not filter out in-world http, then you'll have to trust that IPs are not being recorded.

Da5id Abbot

JLU2 - Kryptonite Booglaoo.

Chapel

Im not making definitive claim as to whether or not you or other members here personally find a certain kitchy charm in the self-contained meme's going on here. I think such a thing is pretty good for comradare, actually. I'm just saying that as a base statement, threads that "go all over the place", and therefore negate the purpose of thread titles, isn't definitively a good thing.

Bunjie

This is hard for me to say and you should know by now I like people to have their say and not cut people out, and it will make me look like a hypocrite but I think Prok has given up the right to participate in the next thread in some form, with this constant push of her agenda on Woodbury.

The issue here is the JLU and Linden Lab, not Woodbury and her grudge as Woodbury is a symptom of what Linden Lab and Prokofy created by persecuting, vilifying and engaging in long term grudges against residents who congregated around anything that she hated or that they use to express themselves with each other e.t.c.

Please Chris deal with it in some way before the next thread .

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Joshua Nightshade

It's only the enormous threads that go all over the place. I was serious about the 2500 post mark. They stay pretty much on track up until then, then it becomes increasingly harder for the focus to stay in sight.

This one actually lasted far longer than they ever have, which was impressive.

It's not too often that threads get to be that length, short of acrimonious discussions in the politics subforum, so there isn't as much drift as you'd think. If you are only participating in this one it might seem more of an epidemic than it actually is.

Elysium Hynes

You should read some of the classic threads here, then tell us it´s not a good thing.

Misty Harley

I'm just going to leave this here:

If you, Hypatia or anyone else knows something about a person in question that would allow for him to be taken advantage of and used, do something about it. Do the best you can to help said person get out of the situation. It won't easy and it may not work, but you owe the person that as a friend.

There are some people that are extremely easy to take advantage of, who will think everyone is their friend that they are doing right by their friends and their friends would never harm them. Then...someone comes along, realizes their vulnerability and takes every advantage of it, disguised as a friend.

It takes a real friend to help them get out of the situation.

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Sione

FIFY

Chapel

People have said this a lot, and I guess its somewhat understandable if 10 bucks means you can eat tonight (I know it means that for me).

Was going to go into more detail, but I dont wanna derail.

Han Held

Deleted: Joshua made a better point than I did.

Ashiri

Depends what you mean by scanning.
I don't doubt that I'm frequently 'scanned' by security orbs or visitor counters but as to how often I am scanned and my UUID, time and place of visit is recorded... who knows.

Now if we had a 'been_scanned' event in LSL we might have a better idea.

Chapel

Youre a very nice lady, and I like your posts, but you just reworded exactly what I said.

Joshua Nightshade

It's not the cost (god I wish Cris would require payment to post here many times) but the heavy moderation that I don't find enthralling.

I have vague recollections of accusations years ago regarding bannings and credit card information on SA, but heavy handed punishment isn't really my thing.

That's what SLU was started for in the first place: as a response to the utterly abusive moderation on the official forums by LL employees, then appointed resident moderators who took gestapo to entirely new levels.

Chapel

Thats where youre mistaken though. its not abusive. The rules are very clearly stated. Its not like "These guys are hardasses", its "There are strict rules to preserve high quality content".

For instance, "lulz" became a banphrase. If you post it, you're banned for 2 hours. Threadshitting usually get you about a 3 day ban. Any sort of repeat offense will get you a week, maybe a month. if youre straight trolling, your lifebanned, unless you wanna pay again.

Its tough Love, and it forces responsible posting. Its great.

Elysium Hynes

Threads like this one aren´t usual trust me and like someone has on their signature "SLU - Came for the community and stayed for the derails", the thread might look a bit off tracks but trust me when i say we easily focus back when we have something to focus on, if not it ends in arguing and lolcats. most usual posters only feed trolls when it´s boring.

bronxelf

JLU2- Kneel Before Zod
JLU2-The Glasses Do Nothing! (virgil, thank you for that forever.)
JLU2-Rebooted (hey, if DC can do it, so can we.)

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Ryokashi

It looks like GLE is avoiding me since I showed that he was still using the BANID HUD that had access to the IP database. He teleported out of Sandbox Island last night right after I teleported up to him.

The SA bans are wonderful and hilarious in itself. Some kid posted a thread requesting help with his homework, it became a mod challenge where he was free if he recreated the final scene out of The Breakfast Club but if someone else did it first, they got to decide his punishment. His punishment was to donate $10 to the tsunami relief organizations since this was happening a day or two after the tsunami hit Japan. The forums ended up raising $70,000 to permaban the guy and to help Japan!

Also it's pretty hard to actually get yourself banned unless you do it on purpose or are just constantly shitposting.

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[16:30] PiddlesDiddles: ZenMondo, regardless by staying with the group you are responsible for their actions as a whole.
[16:31] ZenMondo Wormser: Then every catholic person is responsible for the priests that molest children? Just making an analogy you can't judge an entire membership because of the actions of a few
[16:32] Sione Lomu: Well fuck yeah if the whole congregation knew the priest was doing it I would blame them. Holy shit you are crazy