zip paz

EDIT: I took this comment out. While I think Kalel is a total loon, I don't think he's a child molestor. As idiotic as Zenmondo's comparison is I have to draw the line somewhere

Beezle Warburton

Okay, this is all getting too meta. This came out in a group notice:

So, an anti-griefer group for dealing with the griefing anti-griefers.

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Potosi

Well considering the way they gather data, they could very well be gathering plenty of information on residents who are minors. I think that in itself is good enough reason they should be shot the hell off the SL map.

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Astolat Dufaux

Look, I know you you style yourself as some kind of clever troll, but listen to yourself.

What kind of a person makes fun of people's medical conditions?

I certainly hope you NEVER have to go through what I've been through this last year and a half. Cancer treatment is barbaric.

You are heartless.

The discussion we're having no longer is about Phantom Zone or IP harvesting, and was never about Woodbury or whomever else you're talking about, it is now about this:

Information from the BrainiacWiki, owned by the JLU, has been made public. One of two things happened, depending on whose version of events you believe:

1) the information was leaked by a whistleblower.

If that's the case, it's of concern to every SL citizen that personal RL information is being collected unbeknownst to them and without their consent.

2) the information was hacked.

If that's the case, the concern would be that it was so easy to do so, and that now people's private information (which should NOT have been collected in the first place), is now accessible to anyone, including identity thieves and cyberstalkers.

#2 is what the JLU is currently claiming. Yet they are doing nothing to alert people which they have collected information on that there has been a security breach.

And you think this is funny. Why?

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Misty Harley

They already have that information to a degree..it was some of the first chat logs posted here in the thread.

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Ryokashi

I'd just stop responding to that guy he's come back on like 6 accounts already.

Someone ask ZenMondo why he isn't reporting Kalel's ToS violations if he claims to stand so close by the ToS.

zip paz

Astolat please stop acknowledging that person, it's what they want.

Also I don't think I told you earlier but I'm very happy you survived cancer.

Sugar

Welps left side.....
Welps right side!!!
more welps... more welps...
Now handle it!!!!!

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Astolat Dufaux

That's all I'm going to say to that person... he just crossed a line with me and I had to say my peace.

Sonja Aeghin

was that shit?? THAT"S A 50 DKP MINUS

Elysium Hynes

I asked he didn´t answer..

[16:49] ZenMondo Wormser: If you think Drone1 violated the TOS and you have evidence to support it, file an abuse report
[16:50] Elysium Hynes: If you´ve seen Kalel violated the TOS and you have evidence to support it, file an abuse report

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Kelly Glenn

Yes, but that's a SL vulnerability, and as you state, well known. I'm talking about the PD solution. It's easily defeated, if only by turning off media, if not more subtle means. But if there is a correlating out of band message (and I'll bet there is) then it will be resistant to integrity attacks.

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Potosi

Guess somebody should ask him if he AR'd his fellow JLU people when they decided to fake a skype conversation as an inworld conversation to get somebody banned.

Ashiri

The screenshot where Kalel writes about a custom viewer implies there's a means of scripting exploits in the viewer.

Kara Spengler

What did he do? I was multitasking in SL so could not follow the group chat well. Then had to logout just now.

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Elysium Hynes

Lol Zen now clains Soft Linden told SLU one of their menbers was hacked.

Sugar

omg.. ya'll making me sign in to join the greenzone group again arnt ya?.. I left after we defeated RZ..now i guess its time for round II

Economic Engineer

[17:08] ZenMondo Wormser: Ok we were made aware that a recruit's second life account had been hacked and that they had placed malicious objects on our sim in their name. The same account that was hacked in second life was also the same account that accessed the leaked pages.
[17:09] Elysium Hynes: made aware by whom?
[17:09] USOMAD: What Ely said ^
[17:09] Misty Harley: and was this account reported to LL for being hacked?
[17:09] ZenMondo Wormser: Soft Linden emailed the sim owner about it.
[17:10] ZenMondo Wormser: Misty it was LL that discovered it
[17:10] Misty Harley: and then upon immediately finding out about the hack, their account denied access on the wiki page that hosts real life information for various SL users?
[17:10] Elysium Hynes: so Soft linden emailed the JLU telling them one of their menbers was hacked?
[17:10] Economic Engineer: When where these malicious objects discovered?
[17:10] Astolat Dufaux: How would LL know that?
[17:10] USOMAD: Why was Soft looking at that?
[17:10] Misty Harley: and why would LL contact a sim owner about a hacked account unless it was t he sim owner being hacked?
[17:10] Economic Engineer: and why was soft monitoring a private sim?
[17:11] Elysium Hynes: why would a linden im a group saying one of their menbers was hacked?
[17:11] DeathBySnuggle whistles a merry tune
[17:12] USOMAD: Zen please clarify
[17:12] ZenMondo Wormser: Gosh wasn't this the SAME group that was just saying how plausbile it was for an authority figure to inform those under their watch that there was a threat? Now it seems implausable because its a group you don't like that was notified?
[17:12] Elysium Hynes: no
[17:12] Elysium Hynes: what is implausible is a Linden tell other residents of the status of a resident account
[17:13] Misty Harley: well considering LL generally will not talk to anyone re: other peoples accounts, suspensions, hacks, etc...it DOES seem odd that a sim owner was notified that a JLU members account was hacked based on the idea that they griefed a sim while the hacking occurred.
[17:13] ZenMondo Wormser: Well the reason was these objects were owned by resident account that was compromised so they could be indentified and removed.
[17:13] Elysium Hynes: LL will not disclosure any account info
[17:14] USOMAD: Zen I am sure you can see this doesn't make sense? A Linden should not disclose another residents status.
[17:14] Misty Harley: Uhh I've removed residents objects without the assistance of a linden telling me that I could or that the account was hacked.
[17:14] Elysium Hynes: so you are telling us Softy Linden will tell other residents the satus of one account?
[17:14] Economic Engineer: Why wouldn't they contact the ACTUAL owner of the account?
[17:14] Misty Harley: because a sim was griefed and give the all clear that they coudl be removed?
[17:14] USOMAD: How often has he done this for you or your group?
[17:15] Elysium Hynes: how often have any Linden informed you of teh status of other residents accounts?

zip paz

you mean JLU?

Seems like a real waste of resources if a Linden is busy monitoring anti griefer accounts instead of actual griefers so there's no need for groups like the JLU

Velvet Bikcin

this is way too fucking bizarre for me to deal with on a Monday.

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Elysium Hynes

He´s claming Soft Linden told the JLU the status of a resident acount to protect them from "objects" has anyone tried to know the status of an account from a Linden recently?

Velvet Bikcin

Why would Soft tell a third party about an account being hacked?

That just doesn't ring true.

zip paz

come on are we really asking why? We know why.

The answer: Zenmondo is full of shit.

Elysium Hynes

They are trowing a Linden under the bus too claiming he broke his contract, basically.

Astolat Dufaux

My supposition is that the account allegedly hacked is known to him as an alt of a main JLU member.