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Old 05-22-2011, 07:48 AM   #226 (permalink)
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What Facebook? Or LL's interest in it? Or something else?
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:50 AM   #227 (permalink)
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That argument would hold water if facebook was the *only* place you could do that, but it's not. Let's use a little perspective here people.

Abdul is far safer using Twitter, which by the way is really not that small. Plus, last time I looked, it wasn't flooded with ads and games.
I was not referencing FB or SL specifically. I was pointing out the need to be anonymous sometimes *everywhere* you are online. There are less life threatening examples, certainly, but the point is the ability to speak freely without repercussions depends to some degree on remaining anonymous.
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:52 AM   #228 (permalink)
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I was not referencing FB or SL specifically. I was pointing out the need to be anonymous sometimes *everywhere* you are online. There are less life threatening examples, certainly, but the point is the ability to speak freely without repercussions depends to some degree on remaining anonymous.
I wonder what Ryan Giggs thinks...
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:54 AM   #229 (permalink)
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What Facebook? Or LL's interest in it? Or something else?

Facebook as a marketing tool. Specifically, the idea that you can get something for nothing. If you don't have metrics for your advertising, why would you waste your efforts?
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:58 AM   #230 (permalink)
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I had to google it... oh, what fun!
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LL have never been able to advertise properly. It doesn't seem to be in their business plan. Absolutely crazy but years and years of history seem to prove that. Most of the time it was word of mouth or the media advertising. When that dried up they focussed on Facebook and Twitter, and having a short affair with "be a vampire" on the back of the Twilight movies. It has never been targeted in the right places, if targeted at all.
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I'm mostly afraid of how my mother would behave in front of my Facebook friends. :\
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Thanks. Well, the problem with using the Facebook settings to try to divide people up is that then Facebook goes and changes them - which they did shortly after I signed up, and now I totally distrust them to not do it again. So I limit who I can friend, but that's NOT how Facebook was designed to be used.
Yes, they do this regularly and it infuriates me.

Like I said before, there's enough that Facebook as a company does that really pisses me off, and disabling SL accounts doesn't rank very high on my list. Having to rework these settings every few months pisses me off, and I've considered disabling my account a number of times in the past.

Unfortunately it's become a major source of attention generation for my novel series so I'm stuck in this masochistic relationship until the next Big Thing comes around and everyone jumps ship for it.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:46 AM   #235 (permalink)
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Newsflash, it's been of questionable judgment to make public statements under an identity that can be connected to [YOUR_LARGE_COMPANY_HERE] since the dawn of communication.
Therefore requiring people to make public statements under that identity creates a chilling effect. It blocks communication. For a site that pretends it has something to do with journalism that's just fucking stupid.

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Old 05-22-2011, 08:49 AM   #236 (permalink)
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Yeh, I know, I used to be young and financially secure without dependents and could afford to not give a fuck too. But even then I was able to understand everyone wasn't like me.
I have a hard time ever picturing you as anything but a patronising dick. If you weren't always this way, who kicked your dog fifty years ago?
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:49 AM   #237 (permalink)
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I certainly don't have any interest in spamming people on my friends list with "Joshua left a comment on so and so blog," so as a feature it completely disinterests me.
Facebook comments don't do that unless you ask them to. It's an option when you post.
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If it bothered me that much, absolutely.

Or does it only bother you enough to bitch about it, but not enough to follow through with any principled stance? That strikes me as a waste of time.
I left techcrunch when it switched over, after making my opinion clear on the matter. I have, do and will continue to fight or protest against the creep of "real life identity required" on sites that don't require that information, especially if that is based on the abomination that is facebook connect and facebook comments.

Do I have a problem with using facebook itself? Nope. I have a RL account there to keep in touch with old university friends. I also have a Linkedin account for professional connections. In both cases I'm very careful about the data about myself that I put in them.

It is not these sites themselves or their requirements for RL identities for themselves that I disagree with, its their attempt to spread the RL identities to other sites that don't require them.

Principled enough for you Joshua?
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:50 AM   #239 (permalink)
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I have a hard time ever picturing you as anything but a patronising dick. If you weren't always this way, who kicked your dog fifty years ago?
Oh, I used to be you, but less patronizing. You already have the "patronizing dick" part down way better than I ever managed.
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I left techcrunch when it switched over, after making my opinion clear on the matter. I have, do and will continue to fight or protest against the creep of "real life identity required" on sites that don't require that information, especially if that is based on the abomination that is facebook connect and facebook comments.

Do I have a problem with using facebook itself? Nope. I have a RL account there to keep in touch with old university friends. I also have a Linkedin account for professional connections. In both cases I'm very careful about the data about myself that I put in them.

It is not these sites themselves or their requirements for RL identities for themselves that I disagree with, its their attempt to spread the RL identities to other sites that don't require them.

Principled enough for you Joshua?
Which has nothing to do with SL avatars being registered as Facebook identities.

Yes, Facebook is evil and we all hate it. If you want to talk about that, it's another discussion entirely. How evil Facebook is has nothing to do with people wilfully joining it, wilfully registering as their SL identities, wilfully disregarding their ToS stipulating that such registration is not allowed, then crying about their freedom and inalienable rights being infringed when Facebook deletes them.
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Except you can also comment with a Yahoo account.
Oh, I assumed they were one of the sites that's gone to exclusively Facebook. There's quite a lot of them. I forget which "tech news" site I ran into that only had that option.
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Oh, I used to be you. You already have the "patronizing dick" part down solid.
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Which has nothing to do with SL avatars being registered as Facebook identities.
Topic drift. Get used to it. Or just quit responding to messages that aren't talking about your mission post topic.
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Topic drift. Get used to it. Or just quit responding to messages that aren't talking about your mission post topic.
Is it time for your nap now, lil'sourpuss?
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Which has nothing to do with SL avatars being registered as Facebook identities.

Yes, Facebook is evil and we all hate it. If you want to talk about that, it's another discussion entirely. How evil Facebook is has nothing to do with people wilfully joining it, wilfully registering as their SL identities, wilfully disregarding their ToS stipulating that such registration is not allowed, then crying about their freedom and inalienable rights being infringed when Facebook deletes them.
And yet the conversation went in that direction. Just because you say its irrelevant to the conversation doesn't mean that other people think the same.
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And yet the conversation went in that direction. Just because you say its irrelevant to the conversation doesn't mean that other people think the same.
It went in that direction because some people (read: Argent) in every thread about Facebook inevitably drag the discussion off the road in the same exact manner in order to push their own curmudgeon agenda.

That doesn't change that it has no relevance to the actual subject of the thread, however many people start adding to it.

But, you guys have fun with that. I'm going to go have sex.
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And yet the conversation went in that direction. Just because you say its irrelevant to the conversation doesn't mean that other people think the same.
Joshua has a mission to make people feel bad about breaking Facebook's terms of service. At least, that seems to be the only reason he ever comments about Facebook's "real life" policies.
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I think he thinks its a mouse.

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Joshua has a mission to make people feel bad about breaking Facebook's terms of service. At least, that seems to be the only reason he ever comments about Facebook's "real life" policies.
You really are a twit.

I've commented on Facebook in a total of two threads; both of which were responding to people complaining about not being able to register as their SL accounts.

Mission indeed. What could I extrapolate your "mission" into from every acerbic post about how people are not as intelligent as you, are not doing things as well as you, are not as clever as you, are using the wrong software as you, are building the wrong computers from you, on and on and on, like my grumpy great grandfather who used to scream at Judge Judy before falling into a marijuana nap at 3:30 PM?

Boo hoo. Bite me, ferret.

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