Cincia Singh

Bots and alts don't count, and having downloaded a viewer doesn't mean someone is using the viewer. I have ALL of the available full function viewers on my machine, but I use a 2.x almost exclusively.

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Cincia Singh

Dude, you couldn't get lucky in a women's prison with a pocket full of pardons.

Chalice Yao

Yeah. The #1 stat used for viewers is logins by individual IPs during a day' by LL, and 'unique individual IP hits on the login page a day' by TPVs. Way less false positives. I don't know the latest 2.* stats, but as I mentioned..1.* TPVs in total are more widespread than 2.*, but I don't think Phoenix itself is.

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Lewis Luminos

And a gay Irish stepbrother called Connor Lingus.

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Innula Zenovka

To be accurate, according to the FAQ, they'll show both display name and username.

I don't know how much of a strain this puts on the system; the fact that apparently changes in display name can take up to 72 hours to propagate over the grid suggests to me that it's not a very high priority and that the updates have been tacked onto some existing update process.

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Ryanna Enfield

My question was more about how Display Names would work with regards to subscribo deliveries and the ability to embed a not so nice gift disguised as being from a reputable business or known business owner.

I occassionally receive spam from a subscription based service in which my name was manually entered by someone at some point. Currently when I receive an object or folder from a group type notice listed as coming from "Unknown" or from a name I do not recognize, I simply do not save the attached item and click through the notice.

Is it possible for someone to set their DN to impersonate a business and then use a subscription based service to mass spam people under the guise of being legit?

DarkStorm Paine

There was content created that, even with no currency, there was value assigned to that content. And if you consider "rl money" the ONLY thing of value that can ever be harmed or stolen then I should introduce you to a mode of thought that holds personal reputation to be of more worth then a 50 cent pixel transaction.

People in those venues jealously guarded their reputations for it could make or break your ability to interact in them and your personal "value" in those communities. Moreover those reputations weren't "free" either, you had to work for acceptance just like in any social interaction anywhere online or off. So yeah, when impersonations happened they did real damage or had the potential to do so.

The odd thing is that even in a situation where people could far more easily impersonate or steal from others then they could even with Display Names on here, it was actually rather rare for even an attempt to be made. I don't know maybe it was due to there being far more of a sense of "community" in those places which frankly SL does NOT have. Still the personal grudges and vendettas certainly existed on these other chats and about the same level of stoopid and yet even so, the potential of such freedom being abused was never realized as much as the response to Display Names here may suggest would be the case.

My point being that no matter what "worth" is at stake, the danger from this sort of thing is comparable and the risk has been assumed already in other places without the level of expected "damage" being realized to the extent that naysayers are touting. In addition, the main damage at this point coming from the decision to have Display Names are the types of Con jobs which are spoken of in this thread.
ETA: Con Jobs as in this Display Names detector/banner whatever system.

Brenda Connolly

It will all come crashing down and we'll all wind up being nothing but numbers in a database, our uniquenes and individuality torn from us, as we are collectively raped and assimilated into The Hive Mind. (tm)

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Cincia Singh

We have a subscribe-O thingy in our club that's been there unchanged since before Display Names rolled out and I use a Display Names enabled 2.X viewer (KL and Snowstorm at different times) and have set 2 different display names so far. Without fail the subscribe-O delivers the notecards it sends to me and to all the club staff regardless the viewer they use.

Katheryne Helendale

Nah... We'll always have our UUIDs. They may be a bit awkward to type out, but you'll get used to it after a while.

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Cincia Singh

Too late #46719384438, you have been assimilated

Ciaran Laval

How will this work with people who have trademarked their avatar name? LL are keen to protect Linden, and as others have said, it makes sense for them to do that although it sets an awful example, but what about inworld names that are already trademarked, will LL enforce:

"When selecting a name, do not choose one that:

* violates a celebrity’s right in their name, a trademarked brand name, or any copyright or intellectual property right; "

Or will avatars be able to claim their name as unique under the premise that others are looking to deceive other people?

The vast majority of people won't have a problem with this of course, I'm not sure though why LL don't just give in to requests for people to be able to flag their name as reserved, this would surely be more beneficial in the long run.

Polo

Well, it might be worth a try. Though, since the basis for the suggestion is somewhat technical, I don't know how many votes it might get...

...at any rate I'm on the road with only limited computer access until Monday so may not do it until then. It will probably be a poor orphan JIRA (alas poor JIRA!) but I think your idea is good and I'll give it a try. It is always possible for LL to add the feature if they thought it would solve problems for them...

Masami Kuramoto

Me too.



wtf?

Innula Zenovka

Innula Zenovka

To deliver something in-world, you need the recipient's uuid. Normally you get this by having someone touch the subscribeomatic and it records llDetectedKey(0). While, in theory, it could look up your uuid from your name (though in practice, that would be a phenomenally inefficient way to do it), it just couldn't use display names, precisely because they aren't unique to a particular avatar.

Gigs

Barney Miller is a great and underappreciated show.

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Midori Rotaru

Is this from the same statistical inferences ,crystal ball gurus that prophecied that 50 percent or more would leave if there beloved green viewer was banned ?

Da5id Weatherwax

OFFICIAL RECORDS: Katheryne.Helendale: status - consumed.

Joshua Nightshade

Looks like LL's been letting employees' kids doodle on the friends list window again. You got some squiggles on your screen.

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