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Old 09-01-2010, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Emerald - the End

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This is the end, beautiful friend
This is the end, my only friend, the end
It hurts to set you free
But you’ll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
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This is the end
United we stand and divided we fall. Thus ends the final days of the Emerald Project.
Approximately 10 days ago I and a number of devs came together to reform the Emerald Team in the anxious hope of continuing the most popular TPV in Second Life. The incredible driving passion, flair for innovation, endless energy and camaraderie were all still there. Because of this, I was sure we could make this work.
Alas this was not to be. Linden Lab has made demands of the team that are impossible to meet. Among the demands not listed publicly elsewhere was to publicly release an RC without any ability to load the emkdu or llkdu files. This was do-able. The final demand was to ‘delete’ 3 key members of our team. While making this demand, Linden Lab was quite aware that this was effectively the guillotine to the project.
This is the opportunity for a fork project to develop and create a TPV version of snowstorm, which is what Linden Lab really wants. I am aware of a number of small projects underway now, and I wish them the best, the very best in their endeavors.
For you, the user, what this means is that there will not be any further releases of the Emerald Viewer after today. The existing releases will continue to operate until Linden Lab decides to terminate their access and end Emerald once and for all.
There will be one final version of the Emerald Viewer released here later today; that is, the viewer we’ve been working on for the past six months. It would be a shame to let the efforts of the developers who put so many unpaid hours into this project go to waste.
This virtual world is ever changing and must be, otherwise it will stagnate. This incredible environment will continue.
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Good ol Linden Lab. Thanks for making our experience so much more enjoyable.

Does anybody else want to see the list of demands?
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Good ol Linden Lab. Thanks for making our experience so much more enjoyable.

Does anybody else want to see the list of demands?
From what I understand, the "undoable demand" was shit-canning Phox.

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Now, I made a promise to everyone to disclose the remaining requirements from LL. Those final two requirements that were given to us by LL, was to have a release out by Friday September the 3rd that would not support emkdu or llkdu even if one of the files was present, and that Lonely Bluebird, Skills Hak and Discrete Dreamscape be removed from the project. The alternative was that LL would block the viewer from access to the SecondLife Grid. While Discrete and Skills gracefully stepped down, Lonely refused
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From what I understand, the "undoable demand" was shit-canning Phox.
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Among the demands not listed publicly elsewhere was to publicly release an RC without any ability to load the emkdu or llkdu files. This was do-able. The final demand was to ‘delete’ 3 key members of our team.
3 key members. I am almost willing to bet that Qarl and the other linden were on that list.
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3 key members. I am almost willing to bet that Qarl and the other linden were on that list.
I ninja-edited in the info.

"Lonely Bluebird, Skills Hak and Discrete Dreamscape"
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3 key members. I am almost willing to bet that Qarl and the other linden were on that list.
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3 key members. I am almost willing to bet that Qarl and the other linden were on that list.
It was Discrete, Lonely and Skills - all have a dubious past on Second Life.

Let's hope Qarl doesn't join Kirsten's next - he is not exactly a "rabbit's foot".
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As of some time this morning, all access to the servers have been severed to all but Arabella Steadham and Lonely Bluebird. Neither me, nor any of the other Emerald Developers have the ability to put out releases at this time. Beyond the recent beta 2587, we also cannot certify the safety or validity of any future releases.

Now, I made a promise to everyone to disclose the remaining requirements from LL. Those final two requirements that were given to us by LL, was to have a release out by Friday September the 3rd that would not support emkdu or llkdu even if one of the files was present, and that Lonely Bluebird, Skills Hak and Discrete Dreamscape be removed from the project. The alternative was that LL would block the viewer from access to the SecondLife Grid. While Discrete and Skills gracefully stepped down, Lonely refused. A long argument ensued in dev chat and, I created a new dev chat, where most of us discussed how we could remove Lonely from the project, however it failed. Ultimately Lonely has removed access to the servers and has also stated that he is applying for trademark on the Emerald Viewer name. Preventing us from continuing on the project without him. < Correction, I’m informed it wasn’t Lonely but rather Fractured who applied for the trademark. >
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Good ol Linden Lab. Thanks for making our experience so much more enjoyable.

Does anybody else want to see the list of demands?
I imagine it was "sack the hackers from your team, stop data farming via the client, and don't use the client to DDoS people"
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and of course the blog post, together with the whole blog, is gone now.
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Let's see if LL actually follows through with the threat to block it.
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There will be one final version of the Emerald Viewer released here later today
Compiled by Phox, blocked by LL at the end of this week.

Oh well, stick a fork in it.
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So reading now....ehhh fuck em. Will use Emergence till I can't anymore
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Compiled by Phox, blocked by LL at the end of this week.

Oh well, stick a fork in it.
Yeah, and I wouldn't go near a "final release" from this gang. Could contain all sorts of lovely "revenge."
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So reading now....ehhh fuck em. Will use Emergence till I can't anymore
Any reason you can't use Imprudence instead? I can't think of a single feature other than sim-wide radar it doesn't include at this point. Well, aside from drama and data farming.
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Any reason you can't use Imprudence instead? I can't think of a single feature other than sim-wide radar it doesn't include at this point. Well, aside from drama and data farming.
Holding out for the drama plug in perhaps?

I guess you could always copy loadsadramaandlulz.dll to the working directory - should work fine.
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Does anybody else want to see the list of demands?
Ya know, it wasn't LL that fucked this one up.....
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Ya know, it wasn't LL that fucked this one up.....
LL's fault in this -- not listening to what their users want in a viewer and instead trying to tell us how awesomized they were making our SL experience, causing people to swarm to TPV's.

However, LL wasn't responsible for hackers not being able to keep their epeens in their pants, that's solely on Emerald's collective heads.
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Any reason you can't use Imprudence instead? I can't think of a single feature other than sim-wide radar it doesn't include at this point. Well, aside from drama and data farming.

I flip back between 3. Imprudence won't let me take pictures for some reason. I mean, I can take the snapshots but they come out messed up. I use Emergence for building since I am so used to the old interface it goes quicker. I use 2.1 for pictures and generally hanging out and what not.
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