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Old 08-25-2010, 12:42 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Linden Labs UK outsourced call centre staff were laid off with a 30 days consultation notice. A company in America will take over most/ all support side of things from November.
You mean we Americans are going to have to listen to Europeans complain? There is a word for this.

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Old 08-25-2010, 12:48 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Also please don't imagine for a second that this was quirky Brit humour. As a proud Brit I can tell you that there was nothing whatever lost in translation.
First thing I thought was 'Bloody whinging pom'

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Old 08-25-2010, 01:40 PM   #103 (permalink)
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You mean my month old billing ticket might be opened in only a couple more months? yay
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:51 PM   #104 (permalink)
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In your case you will only be downgraded to a single dotenated name. Personally I would prefer LL to give me a - than a . then I could be Jack Hypenated Doulton
That's only the internal username. The name people can see can be anything you want, from what I understand. There are so many problems with it being talked about on Opensource-Dev that I haven't been paying attention and I'm not going to care much until it's out on the grid, though.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:12 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Your new support hobgoblins will be named Scout or Startek and serve your support needs out of Colorado via Startek - Home.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:31 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Your new support hobgoblins will be named Scout or Startek and serve your support needs out of Colorado via Startek - Home.
They're signing up new agents to handle SL.. and you can work at home. This is below my pay scale, so no.

Job duties include the following but are not limited to

Respond courteously and efficiently to customer inquiries via trouble ticket system, live chat, email and phone concerning virtual world gaming products or services

Provide technical support and help desk functions for customer inquiries and resolves issues related to customer hardware and software, connectivity, product function or inventory

Answers questions regarding billing, service, features, activations and/or account information changes.


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High School Graduate or GED required. Associates’ degree (AA) from a two-year college or university or equivalent combination of education and experience preferred

6 months experience in SecondLife OR 3 months technical support/customer care experience required
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:02 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Sorry but the support call simulation part of the star tek assessment has a flash variable error. Nobody can qualify. Star Tek will have to fill the slots with their existing staff that has no SL experience but have 3 months of taking credit card payments over the phone on another contract.
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:27 AM   #108 (permalink)
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You mean we Americans are going to have to listen to Europeans complain? There is a word for this.
Make products that meet our European standards and the problem is solved.
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:28 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Losing people who care about their jobs and try to do them to the best of their ability is sad for any company, but when people have regarded the job they do as so much more than just a job, losing their position in the company is also losing an identity in the community and losing something that is tied into their Second Life. Another thread on SLU currently talks about how individuals identify with their avatar and think of him or her as "I". Killing an avatar with a company name can hurt too.
That was a beautiful and thoughtful post, thank you. But at the same time I can't help thinking there has to be a balance between life as a Linden or OnTyne in-world, enjoying it for the environment it is, and working for the company Linden Research as an employee. Maybe because Second Life is so good at powerful immersive experience, it seems like perhaps at some point some people lost their way the past few years.

It must be a very heady experience to be a Linden in-world, with people striving to only show you their best sides, and propose their coolest ideas to you. You would want to help your friends and punish those who anger you, but as an employee you have a responsibility to treat all customers with the same courtesy, even the extremely unpleasant ones you'd never want to hang out with in your private life. If employees start getting emotionally attached to some customers over others, it can lead to an epic debacle.

It's not fair to LL's thousands of other teen grid customers to let some special underage people into the adult grid, no matter how gifted you think they are. It's not fair to take sides in disputes between groups of residents. It's not fair to promote one dev team or builder over others. It's not fair, but it would be very tempting. How many of us could resist just a little mischievous use of god powers? How many of us could tell a crooked charlatan from an honest dev, if they made a sincere effort to con us?

I'm sorry for the OP losing his job, and I hope he finds another soon. But at least losing his job doesn't mean losing all his access to healthcare, so hey, look on the bright side, OP!

I do hope though that whoever the new Lindens and support people are, they are able to enjoy and experience Second Life without getting so immersed that they lose track of their role as employees in the company sustaining the virtual world.
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:32 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Make products that meet our European standards and the problem is solved.
Nahh ... no thanks. I prefer my products to work.
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:52 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Nahh ... no thanks. I prefer my products to work.
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Don't ya love it - Sid can get snarky about American products with, at this point, no Groans - but when Cincia does it about Euro products, she gets a Groan.

Touchy, aren't we?
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:12 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Just to compare costs:

Current UK support outsource company is charging around £25 per agent head an hour with a (prior to the head count cull) roster of 38 which covered three shifts, this included some 11 bilingual agents and 5 German portal agents (hey for some reason LL wanted German cover big time). FTR agents were walking away with on average £7 per hour.

Compare this to 80-90 agents showing on the roster for the new company with an advertised wage of around £6 give or take fluctuations. (and still recruiting)

From the sounds of it LL had enough of being fleeced by Teleperformance....and who can blame them.
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:17 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:26 PM   #114 (permalink)
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no. it isn't.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:17 PM   #115 (permalink)
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No, but it tends to happen when strangers post incoherent messages bursting with self-importance, no details, bad grammar and then immediately launch into defensive insults.

There are any number of ways in which the OP could have set a much different tone to this thread, but their inability to do so really makes me wonder what they were doing in customer support to begin with.
When you take into account it was LL customer support, it all makes perfect sense.

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