Boy Lane

She's not wrong in general, some targeted executions usually help companies to turn around. Unfortunately there are not enough heads left in LL for that. So Ann, no new job for you

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Ann Otoole

DAMNIT!

oh well can chop wood with the nice sharpened axe.

Amber Guity

How can you be a CEO of a company and not know some of it's largest problems and issues affecting the customer base? That's kind of basic "getting to know you" kind of stuff.

Boy Lane

Because he just started and probably has the table full with way more important business issues? Don't know, just guessing. But why would they otherwise have replaced the CEO? Redzone is a too small fish to be recognized as a business problem, if at all.

Sione

Tateru was in a prime position to bring this up, I was kinda expecting it to be honest instead of all those questions which he obviously couldn't answer.

Ann Otoole

The guy made a statement. He has been directly addressed in twitter. Either he is totally stupid and useless or is ignoring the issue on purpose.

Boy Lane

As a multi-million $$$ CEO I'd not really listen to anyone writing anything on twitter, facebook, forums, etc. Not with any priority. Priority inputs are channeled differently to him, directly. But I said that.

Ann Otoole

sorry but he does indeed carry on conversations on twitter. His selectivity tells the story in respect to the stuff he says to bloggers while doing nothing of the kind.

Innula Zenovka

It probably won't do any good, but it can't do any harm to send him a polite email about it raising your concerns. That's what I've just done, anyway, on the argument he might read it.

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Masami Kuramoto

That's what I meant when I said you're not familiar with it. Dialogs you don't confirm actually don't go away. They are kept in a history and can be restored at any time. This, by the way, would also bust your alternate method of correlating IPs and UUIDs, because the server has no way to tell when someone started to fetch the stream. It could be immediately after arrival, after a few minutes, or even an hour after leaving the sim. And if they made the URL clickable in the dialog, you could open it in an external player as well. This would be an excellent solution.

Sione

Unfortunately it will probably get filtered by his PA. Anyone know his real email address? Any ex EA staff around?

Walker

I wonder what is the name of that alt he used to go under everybody's radar and build a raft and stuff.

Innula Zenovka

Probably it will, but it's not unheard of for bosses at least to ask their PAs what the mail is about rather than the PA to act, in effect, as a censor. And if the PA says, "You're getting a load of emails about something called RedZone and people seem rather upset about it," he might even -- if only out of idle curiosity -- wonder what RedZone is and ask why people are getting vexed.

I just work on the principle it can't do any harm and it might conceivably do a bit of good.

Theia Magic

You're kidding, right? It's banning thousands of innocent people because it's incorrectly linking unrelated avatars.


Known how? Because they're banned via "alt detection"? Again, FAIL.

...and yet here you are, posting on this forum on a free anonymous alt. Come back with your real SL name and *maybe* we'll actually take you seriously. Hiding behind a sock puppet kills any and all of your credibility.

"Most"? Please define "most". Most drama mongers using Rz to invade privacy? Yes, I'm quite certain most would agree. As for the rest of the grid? Not so much.

No, it doesn't seem little, it seems like an epic failure. 1/4 of 1% of the almost 70,000 people banned is pathetic and laughable. Especially considering a great number of the .025% included are alleged alts of the copybotter, which means more innocent people incorrectly persecuted.

Yes, and they're WAY smarter than Rz and the people who use it. While you sit in your Rz sim under the lure of a false sense of security, they're robbing you blind under your nose while they laugh their butts off.


That's lovely you don't care about people's alt, but every person you scan and log their IP into the database, you're revealing their alts to thousands of people. Whether you care or not is irrelevant, what's relevant is the fact you are grossly invading people's privacy.

If you're so keen on the wonders of Rz, I have a challenge: Tell us your real avatar name in SL, and make a small Rz free landing space on your sim. On that space, post a sign that reads "Redzone in use. Do not go beyond this point if you don't want to be scanned and have your IP address logged". If you do those things? Then I'll actually believe you're as altruistic as you claim and truly do have people's best interest at heart.

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Ann Otoole

Which user group should privacy concerns be brought up in?

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Lance Corrimal

every.

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Madddyyy Schnook

It can not detect copybos at all. It logs your ip and links it to an avatar name then it uses all alts with the same ip and puts them in a list. Badly done app which can be done freely with the normal viewer. And i know someone who has been stalked in sl and is again now because of this releasing alts to mains. In my home we have a new cable system which always switches IP daily. The system reboots and we get a new ip. So we could get a rippers ip or a ripper ours then its false.

But he is making alot of money and so are LL so who cares about our privacy.

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Lord

What if this all comes to a head for LL and they decide its better to just publish all the alts of everyone, bringing the latest PC term, 'Transparency', to the front. Then, only the people who could stand the heat from having their alts lives 'outed' to everyone and anyone, including thier RL partners, friends, and employers would still be doing 'Adult' kinds of things on Second Life.

I know for a fact that many people on Second Life are, in actuality, leading a Secret Life on Second Life. Hmmmm, I wonder...what if LL took the Adult Continent and moved it to its own grid...called it Secret Life...and banned anything and anyone that tried to 'out' the users on it?

Of course, LL would have to give the current 'Adult' users of Second Life a warning period so that they can Delete their Profile Picks, Hide the Groups they belong to, and edit their 2nd, 1st, and Web Profile information...then allow them to Transfer their inventory, account info, and Lindens to the new grid.....Oh, Wait!.....this is sounding vaguely like Teen Second Life !

ROFL

Walker

That outcome is pure fantasy. This whole mess would look like a storm in a teacup compared to the shitstorm that would occur if Linden Lab did something like that, and I'm almost certain it would have legal ramifications.

Also, how do you know "for a fact" that "that many people on Second Life are, in actuality, leading a Secret Life on Second Life". What size cross-sample of known cases are you basing that conclusion upon? I can barely find the time to conduct a single Second Life, personally.

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Elysium Hynes

so is it an obsolete interpretation of occult signs?

Edited to add i only wanted to use that smiley really.

Walker

It took me about half a minute to see what you did there.

bronxelf

Yanno.....

I haven't made a request to interview him yet. But I'd ask.


ETA: Which is not to say he'd do it, or care about the request. But I did notice he's been interviewing all over hell and creation- and even though we all know *I'm* a jerk, the company I write for is actually legit and run by nice people.