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Old 02-15-2011, 05:54 AM   #1326 (permalink)
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Meanwhile, in world, at least one large region owner is catching on & banning this from their sims. Although not from anyone who rents an entire sim alone, but from any sims that are shared...this is a step in the right direction IMO.

The region owner in question, is doing so because after much testing, DOES NOT WORK IF YOU TURN OFF MEDIA & is a LAG FEST WHEN IN USE. This owner has sent out a notecard & IMO this be will read many many people in world.

.....no idea what the percentage will actually read but am happy some in sl are taking note.

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Could be a second box they forgot. Hope it will be gone soon. Sugar?
This was exactly the problem *SMILEs*, sorry for the inconvenience. Now all is ok!
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Usually i don't participate at forums due my bad english...but i have something to explain. After remove the RZ from my SIM (N-core/Heels region), my company have decided keep from our ban list "the one who started the whole GreenZone project" ( so defined by herself ). The reason is simple, we have evident proofs that she is the same person that has copybotted our work some time ago. If someone want to know about the full story there are info and screenshoots provided by me:

iSellSL.ath.cx/MadSci • View topic - Facts about GreenZone & the people behind it. (Pictures!)

IM today with Anastasia Howlett ( ex-merchant and theorically promoter of Greenzone )

[2011/02/15 03:43] Anastasia Howlett: (Saved Tue Feb 15 12:34:57 2011) Thanks for removing my sim ban, and for removing RZ.
[2011/02/15 03:43] Anastasia Howlett: (Saved Tue Feb 15 12:35:35 2011) I am innocent, and I am the one who started the whole GreenZone project
[04:03] nuria Augapfel: sorry Anastasia...my partner have decided keep your ban from our sim...sorry
[04:03] Second Life: User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
[04:15] Anna (anastasia.howlett): This means you still trust the RZ erratic data?
[04:15] Anna (anastasia.howlett): Then your sim will not be removed from the RZ list
[04:16] nuria Augapfel: Anastasia, let me explain you ...this means that i have screenshots from Andromeda Sawson wearing copybotted items created by herself and your profile ( Groups, text ).. is IDENTICAL than Andromeda Sawson profile
[04:16] nuria Augapfel: to add that Redzone was showing that you was her alt
[04:17] Anna (anastasia.howlett): I am not, and ur sim will be back on RZ list
[04:17] nuria Augapfel: what list? lol...i sent a notice, all my customers knows now that my sim is free of Redzone
[04:17] Anna (anastasia.howlett): I know Andromeda in RL. We have played a lot together, but any copybot program has NEVER been on my computer
[04:19] nuria Augapfel: you are saying that my SIM will be an a list of Redzone users without use the RZ ?
[04:19] nuria Augapfel: mmm
[04:19] nuria Augapfel: are you saying this?
[04:19] Anna (anastasia.howlett): We simply will not removeit from the list


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[04:19] Anna (anastasia.howlett): We simply will not removeit from the list
Thanks, and thereby confirmed playing in the same league as Redzone, CDS & Co. with their own database.

Interesting how powercrazy and nasty people can get.

Edit: just tried again, no alarm goes off, but let's watch this

Edit 2: removed GreenZone from my blogposting/notecard and added a warning not to use it
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Thanks, and thereby confirmed playing in the same league as Redzone, CDS & Co. with their own database.

Interesting how powercrazy and nasty people can get.

Edit: just tried again, no alarm goes off, but let's watch this
I'm giving LL a week to say something about this issue and if they don't I will complete my viewer blocking patch and give it to the TPV's. LL can then watch all their new Viewer 2 users jump back on to TPV's.

I'm only waiting because I haven't really got much time to finish it at the moment and don't want to waste that time only to find out LL actually does something. So if anyone else wants to pick up on the idea and run with it be my guest.

(This is not directed at you Boy)
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I'm giving LL a week to say something about this issue and if they don't I will complete my viewer blocking patch and give it to the TPV's. LL can then watch all their new Viewer 2 users jump back on to TPV's.
Cool. It will support both whitelist and blacklist?
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Cool. It will support both whitelist and blacklist?
Yep. At the moment it is a hardcoded whitelist reporting the blocked urls to me. I have always had media off because I don't use it in world so it's not effecting me. But for general use I still need to tie it in with the filesystem and make the dialogs.
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And let's not forget that, though this may not be the case and I can't say for sure ... screenshots *can* be Photoshopped. And cutting and pasting data from Inspect and Edit windows would be pretty damned easy to do.

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Hi Marx, i made the screenshots in my own sim when i found Andromeda Sawson wearing copybotted items from my store created by herself . In consequence, Andromeda Sawson account was quickly suspended by Linden lab after our report. All this happened before that "Anastasia Howlett" start with his Greenzone project.
When i discovered that my redzone has banned Anastasia Howlett because was an alt of the (copybotter) "Andromeda Sawson", and i checked that each profile was identical, i sent the screenshots to Zfire Xue.
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I'm sorry you to hear you were copybotted Nuria. If you read around these forums, you'll see that threads pop up frequently about copybotted content and many users help to trace the original creators so that DMCA notices can be filed.

FWIW, I believe those screenshots are more likely genuine than not. If they are doctored then it wasn't done in Photoshop. I know there are other ways, but I just think it's very unlikely.

Still, it would be very interesting to hear the other side of the story.
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Give this issue enough time & it's going to impolode on itself.

Has become the Hatifield & McCoy feud on the grid. Friends against friends, merchants against merchants, neighbor against neighbor, dogs & cats........!

Anyway, I've also heard of a few heart breaking stories of people being outed etc. & actually leaving sl because of it.

There are some nasty people out there & I can see nothing positive coming from any direction here.

IMO, 99% of the users of this tool are using it to discover alts of people they know....you can count on that! Be careful what you seek, you may not like what you find.

I'm not sure many of these users have thought things thru here. Surely a lot of THEM don't want their alts known either..... All I have to say to them is, Karma is a bitch.
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Yep. At the moment it is a hardcoded whitelist reporting the blocked urls to me. I have always had media off because I don't use it in world so it's not effecting me. But for general use I still need to tie it in with the filesystem and make the dialogs.
So it'll be something like "Parcel [XXX] has made a [type] connection request for [URL] (allow) (deny) [_] Remember this choice"? With prefs to disable it for those who can't be arsed?
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Hi Marx, i made the screenshots in my own sim when i found Andromeda Sawson wearing copybotted items from my store created by herself . In consequence, Andromeda Sawson account was quickly suspended by Linden lab after our report. All this happened before that "Anastasia Howlett" start with his Greenzone project.
When i discovered that my redzone has banned Anastasia Howlett because was an alt of the (copybotter) "Andromeda Sawson", and i checked that each profile was identical, i sent the screenshots to Zfire Xue.
Oh! See, I didn't know this. Sorry. Thank you for the clarification.


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(I had seen these photos originally on RZ's forum.)
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So it'll be something like "Parcel [XXX] has made a [type] connection request for [URL] (allow) (deny) [_] Remember this choice"? With prefs to disable it for those who can't be arsed?
Yes to all except the prefs to disable. The TPV dev's will have to do that themselves because they all use different preference techniques.
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Well, for whatever reason, the isellsl.com site is down right now.
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Well, for whatever reason, the isellsl.com site is down right now.
Maybe he has blown his monthly bandwidth due to all the extra attention.
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did you add it to your hosts file? That kills. Yes!
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shouldnt he be in deeper shit anyways, for selling L$ through other means than the risk api?
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Oh hehe...no, the jerk bend the DNS to his home machine (?) again and that takes some time to update. Perhaps hosting24 really kicked him.

The new IP for isellsl.com is 184.82.109.195. Won't help you Mike, eh John, sorry, zFire . But it's cool you spend more money on learning, the curve is steep
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shouldnt he be in deeper shit anyways, for selling L$ through other means than the risk api?
The question is.. Is he actually selling L$ or is he just accepting paypal payments.
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