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Old 02-09-2011, 08:25 PM   #476 (permalink)
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Been to a couple of my favourite stores by now while sporting the stylish GreenZone HUD.

It's a refreshing surprise to see places that still have faith in their customers - like Curio, Dutch Touch, Tuli, Nonino+Zacca, AtomicBambi, Body Co., Illusory, Mother Goose, Shag Hair, Cova AO, Zaara, Y's House, Elikatira, Fri.Day... also known as additions to the White List.

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For those who have the ZF system, how many avatars\alts are you able to see?
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For those who have the ZF system, how many avatars\alts are you able to see?
I don“t but got checked by someone who did and i“m at 0 like i should, plenty of trouble just being me .
BTW the HUD works up to 96 meters distance, you have to be there to be checked.
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For those who have the ZF system, how many avatars\alts are you able to see?
I went and got their demo system for free and it showed that particular av with 3 alts, one of which was mine, one my brother's, and one unknown. It scanned the whole sim, and showed around 10 visitors, several of whom had alts in the list. One had like 5 alts as I recall.
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I went and got their demo system for free and it showed that particular av with 3 alts, one of which was mine, one my brother's, and one unknown. It scanned the whole sim, and showed around 10 visitors, several of whom had alts in the list. One had like 5 alts as I recall.
Is there a way to retrieve large lists of alts, say hundreds at a time, or thousands? Or is that not possible with the ZF tool?
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Is there a way to retrieve large lists of alts, say hundreds at a time, or thousands? Or is that not possible with the ZF tool?
from what i understand you have to have traffic over X amount to see alts for any avie not just the ones who come on your land
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from what i understand you have to have traffic over X amount to see alts for any avie not just the ones who come on your land
Would I say I would be surprised if money were turned down if offered for this "functionality"?
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But yeah, not just Tiny Bird, but also LAP and probably the other stores on Festivale toss out a Redzone alert, as I went there to check if the HUD was working.
Hi there, I wasn't aware of the controversy surrounding this system, but after reading through this forum I took it down, Festivale (LAP, Tiny Bird, Kari, etc) is now free of anything like it.
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Hi there, I wasn't aware of the controversy surrounding this system, but after reading through this forum I took it down, Festivale (LAP, Tiny Bird, Kari, etc) is now free of anything like it.
Welcome to SLU! As someone who is a huge fan of your store, I'm so happy to see this.


And next time I'm in world I'm going to a little more shopping for stuff I may have missed in the past.
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from what i understand you have to have traffic over X amount to see alts for any avie not just the ones who come on your land

Thanks. Do we know what the X amount is?
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Is it a "Whitelist" of shops not using Redzone posted somewhere?
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Is it a "Whitelist" of shops not using Redzone posted somewhere?

perhaps everyone could chip in and contribute to one as a sticky?
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perhaps everyone could chip in and contribute to one as a sticky?
I read somewhere that the Greenzone device just scan for objects named "Redzone". So a list would not be 100% correct if it's only us posting on it. The sim owners would have to confirm they don't use it. Because they can put the scripts from Redzone in whatever named object. Am I correct?
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I read somewhere that the Greenzone device just scan for objects named "Redzone". So a list would not be 100% correct if it's only us posting on it. The sim owners would have to confirm they don't use it. Because they can put the scripts from Redzone in whatever named object. Am I correct?

well you gotta start somewhere and there's a number of sim owners here already.
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ADVERT FOR GREENZONE - Written by amandaiskast on the Redzone forum - "Ok I did some testing on this. I got the greenzone hud which they seem to be selling for free. I then renamed my zf Redzone to A random name and worse the hud it still picked up up. I then tped down 2000 meters away from it and logged in and out it still picked it up redzone. I then made a objected put all the redzone scripts and objects in it and took off the hud and put it and and it still detected it. So what do we do now?"

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Vesta and I don't use it at the main Something Spunky stores, and if anyone comes across it at any of our mall outlets, please let me know by IM here or in world.
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<--- definately aint at my store

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For those who have the ZF system, how many avatars\alts are you able to see?
I got the demo after Eclectic Wingtips mentioned it, and had the same results as her. None of my alts were listed even though they were on the same parcel, but I did have media turned off. A couple of RL friends were detected as alts of each other, but we expected that because they frequently stay at each others houses and use each other's computers. Somebody passed through the sandbox where I rezzed it and they had dozens of alts. A little profile surfing suggested they didn't have acute multiple personality disorder at all, but were all attending the same college (perhaps logging in from the same hall of residence or something? I'm not sure but that would do it).

Of course, getting the demo resulted in my IP address being submitted to this guy's database, but I don't really care. I have nothing to hide... but that's not really the point. If I want to create an alt for doing things privately (whether that's building on my own land without being hassled, or... say... exploring a side of myself that I don't really want other people knowing about), I should be able to do so without fear of some asshat linking the accounts together without my consent or knowledge.
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Is there a way to retrieve large lists of alts, say hundreds at a time, or thousands? Or is that not possible with the ZF tool?
They're all listed but the bigger lists fall out of the browser window because the creator's web programming is crappy. It's possible to see all the names by right clicking the list in Chrome and selecting 'Inspect Element'.
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I can't believe that LL let this thing keep operating. To sell it as a HUD negates any claim they may have that it is for store owners to keep copybots out.
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They're all listed but the bigger lists fall out of the browser window because the creator's web programming is crappy. It's possible to see all the names by right clicking the list in Chrome and selecting 'Inspect Element'.
hmmm i couldnt find the functionality to find anyone's name who *I* personally hadnt scanned? maybe im missing something
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hmmm i couldnt find the functionality to find anyone's name who *I* personally hadnt scanned? maybe im missing something
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I thought LLL was just asking if it provides massive lists of alts. It certainly sends lists of *all* known alts to the browser, regardless of number, but only if one of the avs is detected.

I don't think it lets you find specific avatars. I'm pretty sure you'd have to wear it and enter the same region as the avatar for that info.
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Hi there, I wasn't aware of the controversy surrounding this system, but after reading through this forum I took it down, Festivale (LAP, Tiny Bird, Kari, etc) is now free of anything like it.
Gah, damn you, I just finished boxing up your hair and clothes! What a waste of time!
Nah, kidding, except for the boxing part.

Mind me asking, either due to "market research" or just plain old curiosity, what was the reason you got interested in putting up that stuff?

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GreenZone It sounds promising?
I think it's said in the manual or somewhere on the blog: It doesn't scan for object names, but ... let's say... functions that are typically required for RedZone to work. So it's rather unlikely to fail unless the coder guy completely revamps the way it works. An extremly laggy sim can spoil the scan results as well, but who wants to shop on such a sim anyway?

Plus, if you ever tried object area search in a TPV, you might have noticed that the scanning usually takes a good moment to turn up results. The HUD is surprisingly fast.

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Theia Magic has a lengthy personal list posted here: One Big Blond Moment: My Favorite non-RedZone Stores
That saves several TPs to check certain places...
Though there are several stores that surprised me in NOT having that spy tool...
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