Velvet Bikcin

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Zfire made an incorrect assumption?

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Eva Ryan

Did you feel sorry for Arabella when Emerald was going down in flames? I certainly didn't. Crackerjack, like Arabella, has chosen his own camp.

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ElyHynes Elysium

@EvaRyanSL is so FIC Humble follows her

Beezle Warburton

Which is silly.

Anymore, using the language properly is what sets one apart from the "normies."

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Inara Pey

No. He's kissing the baby to cover stealing its lollypop. It's not an incorrect assumption, it's blatant misdirection, and it frankly annoys the floo-flab out of me.

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WolfEyes

So true. We each make our own decisions and then we have to live with the consequences of those decisions.

The greeter I use does nothing more than send a local chat message that was typed into the description field, remembers the visitor names and the total number of visitors until it is reset. Nothing is saved unless I save my local chat. That is all it does. It doesn't connect to anything outside of SL. If I forget to check it and you return to the sim it doesn't greet you again. It only does when I reset it. Which I sometimes forget to do. I installed it because I felt it would be better to have some sort of an acknowledgement that you were there rather than nothing at all. Most people seem to prefer having thier presence acknowledged rather than ignored.

bronxelf

I've said it before- you are a smart cookie. Now here's the perfect storm scenario:

Youre 16 years old. You have payment info on file because mom and dad allowed you to use a prepaid card in order to get it.

How long does it take for a stalker to find a kid?

I wonder, how many of the people defending this nightmare have kids of their own and can connect those dots- what happens when they turn *on each other* and have access to that database?

Lloyd Newman

I consider that, apart from an occasional typo, using "the" language (whichever it may be for an individual...) is what sets adults apart from children, and professionals from amateurs.

There's really no excuse for such disjointed, incoherent posts.

zFire, crackerjack et alia are rhetorically functioning on about a 3rd grade level. They couldn't frame an argument they bought at an art gallery.

Casey Pelous

You know, you have to wonder about the future of our world when even a landmark giver or greeter will stir dark suspicions.....

I have a couple of big projects I've designed .... I think at least one of them would have been a pretty awesome product line, and the other had huge fun potential. Ironically enough, that second one would have enhanced social networking, which ...lolz ....isn't that the new good thing?? However, both require database access and I'm really wondering what the acceptance is going to be for any product like that, given I could be dropping god knows what into it and be perfectly within the ToS as currently interpreted.

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WolfEyes

As I was unaware at the time of much of what had occured I can't really answer that one way or another. I was too busy trying to figure out what was wrong with my pc and why my connection seemed to be so slow when it was high speed broadband and why my browser kept being highjacked for no apparent reason since all my malware and adware scans kept coming up empty.

Sound familiar? It should. It wasn't until after I had finally reformatted and changed from cable to DSL and then to FIOS that I found out what was really going on. And of course by then it was too late. Emerald was already dead. Arabella had already posted the blog and Phoenix had risen.

In hindsight, no I can't say I felt sorry for her. I was too angry at the time to feel sorry for anyone. BUT I didn't go around bashing her or the others for what they did. I chalked it up as a lesson learned the hard way.

Do I use Phoenix? Yes, I do. Do I trust the dev team? Well... yes and no. I do trust them up to a certain point. Beyond that... I don't trust anyone. I do have more faith in the Phoenix team than I ever did in the Emerald team. Whether or not that faith is misplaced remains to be seen. So far so good though.

Inara Pey

But... they're experts in their fields. Crackerjack states several times he's an expert in online security.

ETA: Oh silly me...I'm forgetting the definition of "expert":

Ex = has-been
Spurt = drip under pressure.

Psyke Phaeton

LindenWatch: Interesting update...

Linden Watch is holding off on C&D to LL readying one for RZ

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WolfEyes

Things like the Redzone controversy is the reason I haven't bothered to try to develop many of the ideas I have had. I have a server sitting here that I could have used. But as long as things like Redzone and the ability to abuse it exist in SL those ideas will just have to stay on the shelf. It really is a shame that the residents of SL have no real idea of what they are missing out on because of a few irresponsible people.

I have often thought of the "fate of the world" over the years as I have watched children grow up and become adults. Sometimes the fate or future of the world looks very bleak and other times it looks almost bright. As things stand, I'm afraid it isn't as nearly as bright as it could or even should be.

Inara Pey

I'm assuming the FTA is "failure to appear" (common meaning in the UK when referring to a court summons)?

Anthonio B.

Thnx Psyke, guess we all know who that is....

Jopsy Pendragon

I know you don't care... just had to get my 2 cents in.

FB probably doesn't give a rat's ass if we use our real name or not really. What I think they want is a 1:1 relationship between facebook accounts and human bodies (for numerous obvious reasons), and imposing a "you must use your real name" rule is simply a fairly effective way of enforcing it.

Sure I have a FB account. Same name as I use here. Frankly, none of my friends would ever find me if I used the name on my driver's license. No, I don't use 'Jopsy' on contracts, mortgages or the bank, but I do just about everywhere else.

It's gotten to the point where my RL friends and family don't even use email anymore, they do everything in facebook. If I want to be involved, it behooves me to tolerate FB. bleagh.

Autumn Palen

I don't really feel sorry for people like him. But I can say in all honesty, I don't wish them ill will either.

Whatever anyone wants to do in SL is OK by me, as long as it does not impede on my, or others, enjoyment of the experience and rights to reasonable privacy.

I may disagree with the behavior of those using redzone, and will do my small part in helping stop a product that I think is unethical and violates the spirit of the ToS, but I still don't want to demonize those who (for whatever reason) feel the need to use something like redzone.

bronxelf

....

I'm sorry, the bitch what? Oh hell no.

(Tonya, forgive me.)

The post Tonya made this morning was largely a direct result of a conversation she had with me, not long before. She was trying to direct me to the thread. I wouldn't go- can't anyway- the domain is dead in my hostfile and will not be removed. But a good chunk of what she said was lifted directly from what **I** told her (and I assume she agreed, and replied there on her own- I was asleep.)

I've said this before- Tonya wasn't PART of Emeraldgate. She was only on the Emerald team for *four days* before the entire project went poof. To lump her in with that whole scandal is deliberate misinformation. To try to go after her RL info (and she didn't lie in her post- she is a close RL friend, and I am the one who got her into SL) shows *exactly* what this guy is made of. It's a stalker tool- and he's proving the point that it appeals to people interested in stalking

But just because I know that he's watching this? HERE YA GO, SPORT- THIS IS WHERE THAT POST CAME FROM.:

Tonya was saying there was an objection to the limited ban list. here we go:


[04:12] Axi Kurmin: Limited ban list?
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: ok JIRA it
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: next?
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: they cant do anything about copybot
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: if they want something done about griefing?
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: they can ALL pay up for premium accounts
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: so the lab can hire more people.
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: oh no they want it for free?
[04:12] Axi Kurmin: too bad, so sad- the lab cant afford to staff that.
[04:13] Tonya Souther: The ones complaining are paying tier...
[04:14] Axi Kurmin: then it' *really simple*
[04:14] Axi Kurmin: theyre complaining about free alt accounts?
[04:15] Axi Kurmin: make the land payment only.
[04:15] Axi Kurmin: no alts will be there
[04:15] Axi Kurmin: just mains
[04:15] Axi Kurmin: very few people will pay for multiple accounts
[04:15] Axi Kurmin: they want it both ways
[04:15] Axi Kurmin: they want everyone to come
[04:15] Axi Kurmin: but they dont want to deal with the risk

[04:16] Axi Kurmin: turn object entry off
[04:16] Axi Kurmin: turn rez off
[04:16] Axi Kurmin: and go on with your day
[04:21] Axi Kurmin: Why cant they JIRA for unlimited ban lists?
[04:22] Axi Kurmin: who wouldnt support it?
[04:22] Tonya Souther: Good question.

[04:22] Axi Kurmin: if you want unlimited ban lists, JIRA IT.
[04:23] Axi Kurmin: Copybot? Cant help.
[04:23] Axi Kurmin: Griefing? well unlimited ban would help
[04:23] Axi Kurmin: disable object entry
[04:23] Axi Kurmin: make no rez
[04:23] Axi Kurmin: this would also help

You will note- Tonya says very little in this conversation. What the hell are people jumping her shit for?

Tonya Souther

Because I'm a convenient target.

In this case, I put up with it because I'm doing what I believe is right.

(And in case anyone cares, Bronxelf does have my permission to post that.)

Elysium Hynes

I have to give Tonya credit she“s super patient with crackerpot there.

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bronxelf

She's super patient in general. She may be a lot of things. I don't always agree with her, I sometimes think she's outright impossible, and we have had more than one argument in our many years. But the ONE thing that she is? All the time? Is honest. To an absolute fault- and sometimes even at her own expense. She is not *devious*. and she is not a liar.

Elysium Hynes

And here he is again now he wants afilliate vendors.

iSellSL.ath.cx/MadSci • View topic - Redzone Vendor

"zFire anyway you can set up a Redzone vendor system so the loyal users can sell your products to the masses? Hell Id sell them for free just to annoy Phoenix and the GZers."

Lloyd Newman

The best revenge will be when Phoenix (and other viewers...) are released with the URL filter patch, and nearly overnight Rz becomes not just ineffective, but completely useless... and perhaps even economically damaging to those that use it.

Hang in there.

Casey Pelous

heh heh heh heh ........YES! RedZone vendors everywhere on RedZone land .... who needs warning signs? And would do a better job of getting out the word to the other > 98% of the population. How can we encourage this brilliant strategy?

George Orellana

Can someone tell me if Sione's patch for Phoenix is available yet? or do we have to wait for an official viewer update to get it?

Tonya Souther

You just haven't seen me go off on anyone...and probably won't, because doing so in NYC is tantamount to suicide.

There's a word for that: "integrity". I take mine very, very seriously.