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**bronxelf** · 02-25-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Masami Kuramoto

What is the sim's name?

I am on RedZone's ban list. I can tell you if the sim is clean.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/VANITY%20UNIVERSE/85/128/24

(and thank you.

)

Masami Kuramoto · 02-25-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhandra

The Skin Fair is on the destination guide. Looks like... VANITY UNIVERSE (86, 128, 41)? Unsure which vendor stand might have it, but I've heard the same report.

Yes, they are using RedZone.

If you want other sims tested as well, just tell me. Let's play the name & shame game.

Vanish · 02-25-2011, 07:24 PM

How did you manage to get banned anyway? I've been trying to be since page 5 or so of this thread, without success.

Casey Pelous · 02-25-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhandra

The Skin Fair is on the destination guide. Looks like... VANITY UNIVERSE (86, 128, 41)? Unsure which vendor stand might have it, but I've heard the same report.

I heard similar reports in the GZ group. It seems it was not rZ but indeed our friend Psyke's product that gave someone the heave-ho thanks to her having arrived with ......wait for it ......some 1000+ scripts in her shoes, hair, and who on earth knows what else. Oh, man, gotta love those pre-llSetLinkPrimitiveParams resize script sets, huh?

Much sadness ensued over the un-mod nature of said scripted items as well, but at least the mystery was solved.

Sling Trebuchet · 02-25-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bronxelf

Ok, running with that- what kind of information do you mean?

Butting in:

For one example, zFire sees the actual IPs
If anyone in there is connecting from LL IP space, he's got them.
He's got tabs on other avatars in other organisations that are very specific to whatever company they work for. It can get down to a building when looking at reverse DNS.
If they log in from home, that separates them.
He's got the names and the places they have been to.
He's got the people in the same places at the same time.
Once you have you hands on a richly populated database, you can find out all sorts of things - by making connections.

Vanish · 02-25-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sione

They did it with Fractured and Ph0x as well.

The steps to granting a LL permaban

Start general public silence period to get users fired up
Have a little chat with the perp. Pretend to be his friend and get what info you can. Trick him in to thinking you are on his side.
Come to friendly agreement that completely restricts the function of the perp's product and will cause him frustration while at the same time fire up public.
Break general public silence period with something subtle that someone will "find" and spread
Wait for perp to hang himself.
If perp does not hang himself. Help him out the door with a boot.

There's a Paisley Beebe show in between.

WolfEyes · 02-25-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey Pelous

The Lab is stuck. If they require consent for alt detector to gather data, then leave the Facebook Like button on the web based profiles, they'll be violating their own de facto Community Standards. They want desperately to climb on the Facebook bandwagon. And that's why they haven't said a word about this other than to sneak into the web site and change the CS.

I'm still on page 144 trying to catch up so I wanted to interject something here regarding this.

Something LL doesn't appear to take into consideration.

Those of us who do not have Facebook or Twitter, do not want them and have no use for them.

I keep in touch with family and friends via email and the phone. I don't need all that other junk. No offense to those who do use those services, I can see where for others they are useful. For me, personally, those services are nothing more than useless crap. LL's little dilemna over the privacy issue vs Facebook and Twitter does not apply to me and others like me.

Or is my pain really messing with my thought processes today?

Inhandra · 02-25-2011, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey Pelous

I heard similar reports in the GZ group. It seems it was not rZ but indeed our friend Psyke's product that gave someone the heave-ho thanks to her having arrived with ......wait for it ......some 1000+ scripts in her shoes, hair, and who on earth knows what else. Oh, man, gotta love those pre-llSetLinkPrimitiveParams resize script sets, huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masami Kuramoto

Yes, they are using RedZone.

If you want other sims tested as well, just tell me. Let's play the name & shame game.

Aroo?

Masami Kuramoto · 02-25-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanish

How did you manage to get banned anyway? I've been trying to be since page 5 or so of this thread, without success.

You were too polite.

**Elysium Hynes** · 02-25-2011, 07:29 PM

Ok Masami quoted you on the Skin Fair Thread here damn you guys i asked this two days ago and i was told it was clean

**Elysium Hynes** · 02-25-2011, 07:30 PM

You sure you where really blocked or just couldn´t get in cause of traffic?

Inhandra · 02-25-2011, 07:31 PM

Wouldn't Psyke's orb inform you of WHY you're being heave-ho'ed on out? Especially script related. Seems saying something would do more to fix the problem than being silent.

**bronxelf** · 02-25-2011, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sling Trebuchet

Butting in:

For one example, zFire sees the actual IPs
If anyone in there is connecting from LL IP space, he's got them.
He's got tabs on other avatars in other organisations that are very specific to whatever company they work for. It can get down to a building when looking at reverse DNS.
If they log in from home, that separates them.
He's got the names and the places they have been to.
He's got the people in the same places at the same time.
Once you have you hands on a richly populated database, you can find out all sorts of things - by making connections.

I agree with you, but all this assumes he's smart enough to put that all together coherently, and frankly, I have my doubts about that being the case.

Tonya Souther · 02-25-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bronxelf

Pfft. Shit, for all I know, that stupid thing thinks I'm Tonya Souther, since Tonya's logged into her account from my computer before.

And into my account from my MacBook Pro on Bronxelf's wireless, too.

Quote:

(PS: Tonya isn't me. I don't even own a mac.)

We can fix that, you know...

**bronxelf** · 02-25-2011, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfEyes

I'm still on page 144 trying to catch up so I wanted to interject something here regarding this.

Something LL doesn't appear to take into consideration.

Those of us who do not have Facebook or Twitter, do not want them and have no use for them.

I keep in touch with family and friends via email and the phone. I don't need all that other junk. No offense to those who do use those services, I can see where for others they are useful. For me, personally, those services are nothing more than useless crap. LL's little dilemna over the privacy issue vs Facebook and Twitter does not apply to me and others like me.

Or is my pain really messing with my thought processes today?

I dont have a facebook account and never have. Understand this- in a comparison between the 500,000,000 plus facebook account holders and people like you or me? We lose.

Masami Kuramoto · 02-25-2011, 07:36 PM

It was definitely not Psyke's orb. Screenshot attached.

**bronxelf** · 02-25-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonya Souther

And into my account from my MacBook Pro on Bronxelf's wireless, too.

We can fix that, you know...

I really do hope you're not talking about us becoming the same person, T. That's fucking creepy.

(and no, I still don't want a mac.)

Ann Otoole · 02-25-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sling Trebuchet

Lookit what someone posted to Hamlet's blog.
New World Notes: How Widespread is the Redzone IP Tracking Controversy in Second Life?

And I wouldn't be at all surprised if that poster has supplied a completely fictitious email as well.

Awwwwwwwww! He deleted it.

Maybe he didn't like it?

Journalists... fearlessly covering the truth !!

Hamlet has no clue of what the issue is about or how the system works lol.

He will delete my comment too so here it is:

Quote:

Hamlet you are trying to suppress the issue. You appear to be unaware that the issue at hand has nothing to do with the snake oil copybot detection advertised and everything to do with the alt identification service. You know, the hud people wear and go anywhere in SL to identify alts without consent that has nothing to do with copybot. You appear to not even have a basic grasp of how the system functions or what the overall issue concerns.
If this issue were so unimportant then do explain why Linden Lab changed the Community Standards forbidding exactly what redzone was serving without consent up until yesterday? What? You didn't know LL changed the Community Standards to ban what redzone was doing?

Posted by: Ann Otoole InSL | Friday, February 25, 2011 at 05:34 PM

People really need to give him a continuous credibility rip until he goes away and stays in Zuckerberg's bathroom as Mark's personal cock sucking service.

**Elysium Hynes** · 02-25-2011, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masami Kuramoto

It was definitely not Psyke's orb. Screenshot attached.

Can i keep you in my pocket and take you with me whenever i go shopping

Lloyd Newman · 02-25-2011, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfEyes

Those of us who do not have Facebook or Twitter, do not want them and have no use for them.

You can always add Facebook and Twitter to the host banlist too...

Ann Otoole · 02-25-2011, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masami Kuramoto

It was definitely not Psyke's orb. Screenshot attached.

Then people need to commence blogging to warn SL residents away from the skin fair and to rip the skin fair operator a new asshole for doing this. People need to boycott all stores that are at the skin fair and send them notecards expressing disgust and tell them to shove their skins up their ass if they are privacy invading creeps.

**Elysium Hynes** · 02-25-2011, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Otoole

Then people need to commence blogging to warn SL residents away from the skin fair and to rip the skin fair operator a new asshole for doing this. People need to boycott all stores that are at the skin fair and send them notecards expressing disgust and tell them to shove their skins up their ass if they are privacy invading creeps.

What pisses me of is some of then flat out denied having it or said they did and took it off.

Hitomi Tiponi · 02-25-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bronxelf

I really do hope you're not talking about us becoming the same person, T. That's fucking creepy.

So - if Redzone states that you and Tonya are the same person, who files the defamation suit.

Tonya Souther · 02-25-2011, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronxelf

I really do hope you're not talking about us becoming the same person, T. That's fucking creepy.

Not only no but hell no. There's no way in hell I'd live in NYC, and there's no way in hell you'd live anywhere else.

Quote:

(and no, I still don't want a mac.)

The dark side is seductive...

Ann Otoole · 02-25-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Elysium Hynes

What pisses me of is some of then flat out denied having it or said they did and took it off.

I tweeted it. http://twitter.com/#!/SLAnnOtoole/status/41312293849546752

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02-25-2011, 07:29 PM	#3710 (permalink)
Elysium Hynes Elysium Hynes is Typing.. *SLU Supporter* My animal spirit is the lolcat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Atlantic Posts: 6,095 My Mood: SL Join Date: 5/7/2007 Client: V3	Ok Masami quoted you on the Skin Fair Thread here damn you guys i asked this two days ago and i was told it was clean __________________ I have a blog with stuffs in it Sium You can also check my Flickr or my Pinterest for event covering.

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