Mabb Dilweg

My IP address is issued by my ISP who is located in a different state to me. The most anyone will find out about Mabb Dilweg and Her two alts is that we are logging in from Australia.

I have good anti virus and anti spyware software running, I have not had a virus or spyware attack in 2 years and trust me when I say, I visit some dodgy websites.

I've read all this and I still find it hard to see how they are going to get my address, or RL identity or anything that will harm me.

And I don't understand how anyone who institutes basic common sense protection of their RL info (like not identifying your avatar name with your real name. d'uh!) and standard pc security such as the above, can be in any way threatened by any of the "dangers" discussed here recently.

So as far as I can see, these issues have the potential to harm people who do not use common sense to protect their identities and their computers and I find it hard to feel sorry for them, and even harder to support denigrating my SL enjoyment to make up for their stupidity.

We all have our own levels of comfort regarding this. I don't mean to put down those who are concerned about these things, because that's none of my business.

But still, I really, really cannot see why I should be at all concerned. I'm prepared to be wrong, but I haven't yet seen any real facts or convincing arguments to change my mind.

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Argent Stonecutter

Did you tell 'em about the catnip blunts?

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Cristiano

I think there is a happy median between paranoia and polyanna when it comes to privacy issues. I do think there are some serious privacy and security implications that LL has overlooked, and just because you personally may not be concerned about them does not make the concerns of others invalid.

I am a fan of the shared media features in SL, but it does not mean there are not some legitimate issues involved with having the feature turned on by default.

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Dickie Swansong

I'm sposesta use an alt fa that?

Dammit....

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Dickie Swansong

Well I did fa one. Ya warnin's made sense ta me.

What I dun' understand is... Why in teh past when everyone was clamorin' fa such a thing did no one say "Hey wait a minute, maybe this isn't such a good idea."?

Shyotl

Considering I don't live in a particularly huge town, and that my ISP has managed to assign me the same address for particularly long spans of time (6months+ in the past)... AND that my ISP isn't particularly monolithic and thus geoIPing is likely quite accurate... I find some of these harmlessness arguments tenuous at best.

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Dickie Swansong

Nonsense.

• First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, Freedom of Religion, and of assembly; right to petition

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

How exactly does ones failure to exercise one particular right render any right other null and void?

Dickie Swansong

Brenda Connolly

Holy crap! That's the first post I've seen from you in plain English, instead of that...language you've been speaking.

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Argent Stonecutter

Apart from me? There have been a few others, too.

Jesse Barnett

Blame it on the catnip I gave him.

Brenda Connolly

As I get older, I am going further towards paranoia. I've begun looking for land in the mountains of Pennsylvania for my hidden compound and am always on the lookout for the black helicopters. I never drive the same route to work, my dog has implicit instructions to not speak to strangers and I'm looking to find some Claymores on the black market for my front yard. OK..those are for the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Masami Kuramoto

The paranoia argument is a straw man. The data miners in SL understand the importance of privacy very well. That's why they protect theirs while invading yours. The whole point of their data mining activities is to create information asymmetry between you and them.

Beezle Warburton

They only like Jiras with 10 votes or less.

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Beezle Warburton

Remember the Quicktime exploit?

Dickie Swansong

It wasn' me! It was mai ebil twin brudder!

Dickie Swansong

Before it was released? I never saw anyone speakin' out against it.... People've been clamorin' fa web onna prim for years.

I ain' doubtin' ya... Mayhap I just never noticed.

Joshua Nightshade

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Dickie Swansong

Watchin' TV'll rot ya brain...

Brenda Connolly

He he...She said "gooey"..he, he, he.

Dickie Swansong

Fa what it's worth I've voted for 'em, even tho I dun' own a gun nor own a newspaper.

Katheryne Helendale

You might want to be a little less cavalier about your personal information.

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Hypatia Callisto

HAHAHA. I was aware of the security issues and have said it over and over BEFORE this crap with Onyx and CDS happened.

It's more of a case of "I told you so, suckers".

This.

Oh and this made me LOL today.

Report: Facebook caught sharing secret data with advertisers

It's not just for Second Life, obviously And on Facebook, people reveal a metric ton MORE information about themselves.

Yeah, I'll continue to be just as paranoid as say, Ars Technica and the Wall Street Journal. Kthx!

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"Call it what you like," said the Cat.

Bromide Bob

Argent's points were excellent except for making this sound like it's solely a Windows issue. When any app like SL that uses UDP is active, you're at the mercy of how well the application (the viewer) handles data it doesn't expect, since your firewall is probably going to automatically let data through it that it thinks is related to your app. If someone knows your IP address and that you're running SL and what sim you're connect to, they can attempt to send spoofed messages to your viewer. Things like payment transfers are now protected (see Second Life Grid Status Reports Blog Archive Security Update to Second Life viewers: 26 Sept 2008), but a lot of traffic isn't. There are a number of folks on this thread who know this and I'm sure will correct me if I'm wrong. The browser analogies are only loosely applicable, the viewer connection to the simulator is a whole lot more complex than what a browser does.

Katheryne Helendale

When a whole lot of people with IT and information security backgrounds express concern about a potential security exploit, I have a tendency to stand up and take notice. If that makes me a tinfoil-wearing freak, then so be it.