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Midori Rotaru · 04-06-2010, 12:57 AM

.. making sense is greatly overated.....

Leslie Plutonian · 04-06-2010, 01:34 AM

You already have little control on how they see you.

Just look at how lighting is handled based on graphics quality. Avatar looks and quality can change dramatically depending on how good your video card is. Personally, boob bounce isn't nearly as much of an issue as that.

Besides, keep your boobies small and they won't bounce much no matter what they do. Go big, and you are asking for a black eye.

Maya Remblai · 04-06-2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Plutonian

You already have little control on how they see you.

Just look at how lighting is handled based on graphics quality. Avatar looks and quality can change dramatically depending on how good your video card is. Personally, boob bounce isn't nearly as much of an issue as that.

Besides, keep your boobies small and they won't bounce much no matter what they do. Go big, and you are asking for a black eye.

Not to mention right click > derender. And using functions other viewers can't see (You can use an alpha mask in Cool SL, but someone on 1.22 won't see it. Happened to me once in InWorldz.) And Linden-made ability to stop particles, lights, etc from rendering. Anything client-side can't be controlled by other people, which means you can't control how other people see you.

As for the forced flying, if I'm a dragon, a PennySnatcher, or any of my other winged avatars, heck yes I'm going to fly. Besides, it's client side, and as has already been stated, LL made it possible to fly regardless of no-fly land settings.

Chalice Yao · 04-06-2010, 02:07 AM

*peeks in*

Uhh..yeah, just here to say that, no, Emerald isn't trying to get 'excempt' from the TPV, and yes, the plan is to release a compliant viewer til the 30th and to get registered.

That is all.

**Psyke Phaeton** · 04-06-2010, 03:30 AM

What we really want to know is will your viewer 2 have jiggle¡!?

Chalice Yao · 04-06-2010, 04:02 AM

Hahah...um. Yes?

Basically our currently plan is to re-base Emerald from 1.23 to Snowglobe 1.3, and to backport 2.0 features (except the user interface).

Then we wait and work with that, until LL releases 2.1..which should, hopefully, be a Viewer 2 version with a good chunk of bugs removed. -Then- we will re-base Emerald to 2.1, while trying to keep the old user interface. Or making it switchable.

**Misty Harley** · 04-06-2010, 04:09 AM

chalice, from many who would have to do some serious thinking if emerald decided to use just the 2.0 interface...THANK YOU!

I love emerald and am glad to hear they are going to try to get onto the registry. But the best part? They are going to try to keep the current interface or at least make it an option.

2.0 scares the hell out of me. took me a year to learn the current interface. I can't see me sticking around to take yet another year to learn yet another new interface.

WarKirby Magojiro · 04-06-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kate M.

Where is the "lolwut" button when you need it? Midori you're making about as much sense as a cat with a lemon on its head.

Lime

Midori makes about as much sense as a cat with a lime on it's head.

Lemons are actually quite sensible.

archie lukas · 04-06-2010, 04:34 AM

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I dun' even have the installer fa LLs craptastic viewer on mai HD since I installed Windoze 7, and since Kirsten is obviously VERY hard at work on hers n' teh EM team seems ta be gettin' nuthin' done, I may well move over ta Kirstens... If taht turns out ta be teh case, I sure will miss EM, but taht's teh wait teh prim bounces.

What?

Couldn't understand a bloody word of that gibberish.

It ain't funny and it ain't clever.

archie lukas · 04-06-2010, 04:39 AM

I quote:

Regarding our intentions, people keep asking about whats the plan with Emerald, so here is the general outline:

We are currently working on combining the current Emerald feature set with the Snowglobe 1.3 sourcebase, once finished we will backport all the more desirable features of "viewer 2.0" such as tattoo and alpha layers, inventory links, etc.

Having used SL2; my friends and I
(all long time residents)
went back to Emerald
Nuff said

Ann Otoole · 04-06-2010, 05:20 AM

Not sure LL will go for that.

"Works Right" would fall under "surprising functionality not expected in a LL viewer" prohibition clause right?

Boy Lane · 04-06-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ann Otoole

Not sure LL will go for that.

"Works Right" would fall under "surprising functionality not expected in a LL viewer" prohibition clause right?

As I said, it is always better to read the TPV before starting "interpretations"

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPV

You must disclose the following:
[...]
Any surprising or unexpected functionality, including any limitations on features and functionality generally available to Second Life users through Linden Lab’s viewers.

Dickie Swansong · 04-06-2010, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by archie lukas

What?

Who peed in yer cheerios son?

**Psyke Phaeton** · 04-06-2010, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chalice Yao

Hahah...um. Yes?

Basically our currently plan is to re-base Emerald from 1.23 to Snowglobe 1.3, and to backport 2.0 features (except the user interface).

Then we wait and work with that, until LL releases 2.1..which should, hopefully, be a Viewer 2 version with a good chunk of bugs removed. -Then- we will re-base Emerald to 2.1, while trying to keep the old user interface. Or making it switchable.

Chalice, please please please make the llDialog menus able to be large without scroll bars like viewer 2 even in your viewer 1 skin. Decent looking menus are difficult enough without two types of menu displays.

See Psyke Phaeton's Blog for examples of nicer menus in viewer 2.

**Misty Harley** · 04-06-2010, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick McMinnar

Who peed in yer cheerios son?

People still pee in cheerios? I thought they all went cool and moved on to frosted flakes

(who am I kidding, I just wanted a reason to use this little guy...since I'm back to lolcats stupid)

**Aliselia Aeon** · 04-06-2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by archie lukas

What?

Couldn't understand a bloody word of that gibberish.

It ain't funny and it ain't clever.

Should I worry about myself because I understood it?

WarKirby Magojiro · 04-06-2010, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyke Phaeton

Chalice, please please please make the llDialog menus able to be large without scroll bars like viewer 2 even in your viewer 1 skin. Decent looking menus are difficult enough without two types of menu displays.

See Psyke Phaeton's Blog for examples of nicer menus in viewer 2.

I agree here. llDialog is one (of very few) part of the UI they actually did a good job on. The buttons became bigger and more text space was added, afaik

do import that change

04-06-2010, 01:34 AM	#77 (permalink)
Leslie Plutonian Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,571 SL Join Date: 1 Sept. 2008 Business: Leslie Plutonian Clothing	You already have little control on how they see you. Just look at how lighting is handled based on graphics quality. Avatar looks and quality can change dramatically depending on how good your video card is. Personally, boob bounce isn't nearly as much of an issue as that. Besides, keep your boobies small and they won't bounce much no matter what they do. Go big, and you are asking for a black eye. __________________ “Like I always say, there's no "I" in team. There's a "me" though, if you jumble it up.” - Dr. Gregory House

04-06-2010, 02:07 AM	#79 (permalink)
Chalice Yao The Purple HEYOO! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere purple, Germany Posts: 7,773 My Mood: SL Join Date: 20. January 2007 Client: NaCl	peeks in Uhh..yeah, just here to say that, no, Emerald isn't trying to get 'excempt' from the TPV, and yes, the plan is to release a compliant viewer til the 30th and to get registered. That is all. __________________ "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" - George Carlin

04-06-2010, 04:39 AM	#85 (permalink)
archie lukas Transcended Member Stunned by fools Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A True Brit Posts: 245 My Mood: SL Join Date: Dec 06 Business: Philosopher	The ACTUAL answer you seek is here I quote: Regarding our intentions, people keep asking about whats the plan with Emerald, so here is the general outline: We are currently working on combining the current Emerald feature set with the Snowglobe 1.3 sourcebase, once finished we will backport all the more desirable features of "viewer 2.0" such as tattoo and alpha layers, inventory links, etc. Having used SL2; my friends and I (all long time residents) went back to Emerald Nuff said

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04-06-2010, 12:57 AM	#76 (permalink)
Midori Rotaru Senior Member couldnt find the tin foil Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sannin Posts: 213 My Mood: SL Join Date: 15 05 07 Business: Chocolat	.. making sense is greatly overated.....

04-06-2010, 04:02 AM	#81 (permalink)
Chalice Yao The Purple HEYOO! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere purple, Germany Posts: 7,773 My Mood: SL Join Date: 20. January 2007 Client: NaCl	Hahah...um. Yes? Basically our currently plan is to re-base Emerald from 1.23 to Snowglobe 1.3, and to backport 2.0 features (except the user interface). Then we wait and work with that, until LL releases 2.1..which should, hopefully, be a Viewer 2 version with a good chunk of bugs removed. -Then- we will re-base Emerald to 2.1, while trying to keep the old user interface. Or making it switchable.

04-06-2010, 04:09 AM	#82 (permalink)
Misty Harley yawns loudly *SLU Supporter* always in need of coffee Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US Posts: 4,204 SL Join Date: Septemper 06' Client: catznip,exodus,nirans	chalice, from many who would have to do some serious thinking if emerald decided to use just the 2.0 interface...THANK YOU! I love emerald and am glad to hear they are going to try to get onto the registry. But the best part? They are going to try to keep the current interface or at least make it an option. 2.0 scares the hell out of me. took me a year to learn the current interface. I can't see me sticking around to take yet another year to learn yet another new interface.

04-06-2010, 05:20 AM	#86 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	Not sure LL will go for that. "Works Right" would fall under "surprising functionality not expected in a LL viewer" prohibition clause right?

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