Boy Lane

If you haven't seen it, as myself, Zwagoth became the latest turnover for Emerald. Seems they get compatible with LL

Stepping Down Zwaggypoo

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Pussycat Catnap

Personally the Emerald devs are a case in point for why I want RL info on these devs out in the open.

There's something fishy going on over there with them. I can't say its in their viewer - but way too many of them have suspicious extra projects of dubious nature going on.

Cincia Singh

Gotta love unfounded, unsubstantiated, rumors. Care to give names and details of the "suspicious extra projects?"

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Phant Nabob

I don't know what Zwar's involvement in Emerald was, but I'll love him forever for his SALT hud.

Boy Lane

That's simple but probably not all-inclusive:
Adding Skills Hak: CDS

Pussycat Catnap

And that whole project they just kicked off to start tracking suspicious competitors...

Boy Lane

You mean Onyx? That was merely to hide their own past: and to blackmail ex-Emerald members like Thomas.

Pussycat Catnap

Well I won't go so far as to say they are directly up to something now.

But there are a lot of unanswered questions. Handing the jail keys over to the former inmates is a little unwise. Letting those inmates conduct secret trials without showing their evidence (Skills and CDS) is even less wise...

So yeah, these are people that need to be known, if anyone does.

Toxic Menges

But you did further up the thread.

I 'spose you are at least coming back into threads where you have made wildly inaccurate statements now, it's an improvement!

Well done!

Boy Lane

Sorry, but for the record, what has been inaccurate?

Pussycat Catnap

No I didn't.

Read it again.

I didn't make any specific accusation.

Cincia Singh

No you didn't make any specific accusations, you are a specialist at 3rd-hand, implied, unsubstantiated drama mongering

Toxic Menges

Advertising Poser/DAZ Studio products in SecondLife? (**MATURE**)

ARing a Linden Mole...

Toxic Menges

I didn't say you made any accusations, I said you had made wildly inaccurate statements.

Read again pls

Pussycat Catnap

*edited* He noted using the Zygote models. So I was correct on that. But he assumed I found something wrong here... I was merely trying to clarify how to do it as it seemed like a good business idea to get into - and he reacted in sudden alarm - as if accused of something.

In the second - I provided screenshots of what happened to my land. Others disagreed that there was anything wrong, so the topic seemed over, so there was no point in continuing.

I'm reminded of the CDS threads - where my first post in all of them was the simple query of 'how's this work' combined with the caution against making a legally-binding guarantee (a 100% statement). It was met with such an irrational response that major alarm bells went off for me... and that's about when I stopped using Emerald. Now I have unanswered questions, and every-time, rather than answer them, they come in and accuse those asking of making attacks against them.

Rather than all these attacks, lets just see some disclosure and end it all. I'm still convinced anything is wrong over there - but I am extremely curious about the refusal to explain.


But nice forum stalking there.

Pussycat Catnap

Again... what was inaccurate.

There are threads all over the place noting the past of some of them.

And now we have CDS and Onyx. Both projects for which some of their members are being very vague about the details.

They need to open up as to all of that.

Toxic Menges

Didn't you say they were rude, I believe there was a call for the log, you didn't provide...

As for the Poser thread, you still obviously didn't read his answer.

Not stalking, just reading.

Pussycat Catnap

He said he was using Zygote models. What more is there to read?

The flippant responses and disagreement with with my feelings about what happened to my road in the other thread simply left no point in further discussion. The mole in question told me that was the best I was going to get and it was too bad. I found such a terse reply rather unprofessional, so I complained. No sympathy here for what happened to me, so why beat a dead horse, I left it as it stood. I posted feeling a need for a sympathetic ear when feeling very frustrated - not a debate. Whether or not he was rude by anyone else's standards is completely not relevant to any of that; I felt insulted.

Toxic Menges

The answer he gave is more than adequate.

I'd rather hear the comments Abnor Mole made to you that inflamed your senses so much

Pussycat Catnap

Yes - he said Zygote models. End of that one.

Good derailing of this topic BTW into something completely not relevant to an Emerald dev. Though I did start the derailing by saying why I feel something needs to give over there.

You got my answer on the mole, you don't need more. That topic has nothing to do with this or anything else nor am I making any claims over the Grid or policing it or anything else that might require inquiry into me. And even if I was - inquiry into my actions and motives would be legit. Inquiry into the emotions that can make me feel upset and moody on a Friday morning (was it Friday?) has nothing to do with anything.

Jesse Barnett

The entry that has my interest piqued is the allegation that Day Oh is the author of the Chocolate viewer. As far as I knew he was always a white hat who has turned in one hell of a lot of exploits over the years.

Has anyone else heard that he was the author or could point me towards more info. It would be interesting seeing what made him cross over to the dark side(If he did).

Toxic Menges

So I take it he didn't say anything that was rude then.

Like I said. Wildly inaccurate.

Just to keep the thread OT, is there dramaz going on within the Emerald Dev team? I hope not, I would hate such a kick-ass team be broken up.

Boy Lane

I think the answer is in here, long thread:
Onyx

The Emerald guys behind Onyx use that to try to hide their own past and whitening their dark hats, the same time backlash on other people, ex-members and rivals. I have no idea about Day Oh but it may be the same as what Thomas wrote:

Huns Valen

Running binaries from dudes on the internet.

Good times, good times.

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Jesse Barnett

I was out of commission for a couple of weeks or I would have been right in the middle of that thread.

Nothing about Day Oh though and I will get to the bottom of that. Day Oh has done a lot of SEC work over the years and as I mentioned has turned in more then most people. He has always had a sterling reputation. It was interesting to see Thomas's name there also. I had talked to him a couple of times and he was always helpful and never, ever came off as the asshole that Phox did when I talked to him.

LGG I have never, ever heard any bad rumors on, he is either clean or much smarter then all of the rest of them put together. Well actually he IS smarter then all of the rest of them put together if he is good OR bad.

But I will get around to having a chat with Day Oh in the next week or so. I see he was active still filing jiras as late as just a couple of months ago. If I find out that Onyx is lying about him then the gloves are off and war is declared on Emerald. Day Oh has one hell of a lot of friends, including a lot of Linden's.