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Old 11-21-2009, 03:52 PM   #1326 (permalink)
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woodbury is an inflammatory name? where? in Disney World?
I'm not sure you understand what was written.
The invite-only group - Woodbury University - invited in an avatar named niggerflavored coleslaw into the WU group earlier this year. This avatar was used to greif and was deleted from the resident list for creating an inflammatory user name and greifing.

I hope that clears that up for you.
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I'm not sure you understand what was written.
The invite-only group - Woodbury University - invited in an avatar named niggerflavored coleslaw into the WU group earlier this year. This avatar was used to greif and was deleted from the resident list for creating an inflammatory user name and greifing.

I hope that clears that up for you.
So what? There are 500 people with invite rights in the WU group. You should blame Linden Lab for accepting the registration of that name in the first place - why do they have "coleslaw" as a last name option at all?
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:58 PM   #1328 (permalink)
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Then you should not have any problems.
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So what? There are 500 people with invite rights in the WU group. You should blame Linden Lab for accepting the registration of that name in the first place - why do they have "coleslaw" as a last name option at all?
Linden Lab corrected the problem. WU made no attempt to do so and - as you are doing now - spewed out excuses for the name and the greifing.

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Old 11-21-2009, 04:01 PM   #1330 (permalink)
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Then you should not have any problems.
1) I don't see any problem being a Woodbury University member and an NCI affiliate.

2) I DO see a problem being Prokofy Neva or affiliated with her and being an NCI affiliate because Prokofy Neva is a person blackmailing the NCI itself. I don't see why a person who has declared war on NCI, or anyone affiliated with her, should be welcome in NCI (Woodbury University has never taken any hostile action against NCI, on the contrary, some WU members are respected NCI volunteers).

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(Woodbury University has never taken any hostile action against NCI, on the contrary, some WU members are respected NCI volunteers).
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This Carl person is not affiliated with NCI. His conspiracy theories are irrelevant. To my knowledge, this person previously left the NCI because the majority didn't agree with him.
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So what? There are 500 people with invite rights in the WU group. You should blame Linden Lab for accepting the registration of that name in the first place - why do they have "coleslaw" as a last name option at all?
Right, because coleslaw was the truly offensive part of that name.



Disclaimer: I'm not taking a side here, I really couldn't care less who is who or what is what in this brouhaha. I just found that argument seriously amusing.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:17 PM   #1334 (permalink)
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Right, because coleslaw was the truly offensive part of that name.
Is coleslaw a name? I don't think so.

Fact is, Linden Lab accepted the registration of that name. You can't blame a group with 500 members with invite rights for the fact that a person with a valid account was a group member for a short period of time.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:40 PM   #1335 (permalink)
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This Carl person is not affiliated with NCI. His conspiracy theories are irrelevant. To my knowledge, this person previously left the NCI because the majority didn't agree with him.
This 'Carl Person' took NCI from a small start-up group in 2005 to one of the most financially stable. goal-oriented groups in Second Life in 2009. It's apparent decline after the WU infiltration is unpleasant to witness.

Hopefully Immy will stop advertising 'Adventures in Disruption' while supposedly just checking the NCI Voting boards.

It is also odd that NCI allowed Immy to announce their leasing information in a SLU Forum thread she started about herself. Chipping away.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:59 PM   #1337 (permalink)
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Is coleslaw a name? I don't think so.

Fact is, Linden Lab accepted the registration of that name. You can't blame a group with 500 members with invite rights for the fact that a person with a valid account was a group member for a short period of time.
Yes, you can blame a group that invites someone with that name into their group. It was only a short period of time because Linden Lab perma-banned him. And that was long after WU was informed that this person was a memmber of their group. Absolutely no one at WU made any effort to remove the person from the group, apologize for accepting the member with that name or apologize one of it's members were grefing.

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Please don't attempt to justify a greifer using a racist name like 'niggerflavored'.
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You are referring to an event well over 2 years ago. Woodbury University has its own region again. Clearly because it's not a griefing group. They even get a discount because its an educational sim. WU's chief organizer even knows half of the LL governance team in RL.
Helper, I am afraid you are speaking with someone who is eternally stuck in the year 2007. Coincidentally (or perhaps not so), she also uses 2007 events to argue her case against child avatars. I don't think she realizes that, not only is it no longer 2007, but that we are standing on the doorstep of 2010, about ready to ring the doorbell.
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Please don't attempt to justify a greifer using a racist name like 'niggerflavored'.
Has this got anything to do with NCI or the university as a whole? No. I've never encountered this "niggerflavored" person. I certainly don't like such names. But the fact that a person with bad taste was a member of WU, invited by one of their 500 members with invite rights, does not make the university a griefing group.

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So it is OK to you? I think you can begin to see the problem. We report folks who start groups with inflammatory names - just because they got away with it for a few weeks does not mean they get to keep the name. It is odd that you feel this is acceptable.
By extension of your own logic, it (politically incorrect avatar names) is clearly OK with you as well, since you continue to exist and log into a virtual (love how I worked that word in?) world in which such behavior is clearly tolerated.

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Has this got anything to do with NCI or the university as a whole? No. I've never encountered this "niggerflavored" person. I certainly don't like such names. But the fact that a person with bad taste was a member of WU, invited by one of their 500 members with invite rights, does not make the university a griefing group.
Yes it does. A group that has members reprimanded for nearly three years for greifing is a greifer group. If, after that amount of time, the same people are in the group - and no changes are made to deter this behavior in this group - then it is intentional.

Throwing your hands in the air and pretending to be helpless and unable to stop your members from recruiting new greifers is a cop-out. And it does not work.

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By extension of your own logic, it (politically incorrect avatar names) is clearly OK with you as well, since you continue to exist and log into a virtual (love how I worked that word in?) world in which such behavior is clearly tolerated.
How it is tolerated when LL banned that account? What are you talking about?
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Helper, I am afraid you are speaking with someone who is eternally stuck in the year 2007.
The niggerflavored coleslaw greifing from WU happened 3 months ago. So now what is your excuse?
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Has this got anything to do with NCI or the university as a whole?
NCI harbors member's of the Woodbury University greifer group - of which Immy is a proud member. Her Adventures in Disruption in the Ross infohub - using the NCI vote board as an excuse to be there - took a 3 month old incident and started it all over again - then she blogged about it for lolz.

So no more NCI to hide behind to harass the landowner and no more Linden Lab Mentor group to blame either. Now it's all based on personalities and not affiliations.
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Ross infohub with NCI kicked out of their long standing lease there because of their infiltration and affiliation with the WU greifer group. Bravo.
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Ross infohub with NCI kicked out of their long standing lease there because of their infiltration and affiliation with the WU greifer group. Bravo.
Congratulations, Prok, you just ruined your own reputation as a landlord completely. If you had any friends left, they're all gone now.

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Right, because coleslaw was the truly offensive part of that name.
Hey! I have had some truly offensive coleslaw before! And some of it, I didn't know was offensive until it rudely insisted on revisitation rights a few hours after consumption!
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The niggerflavored coleslaw greifing from WU happened 3 months ago. So now what is your excuse?
Do I need an excuse? *shrugs*
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The niggerflavored coleslaw greifing from WU happened 3 months ago. So now what is your excuse?
Hmmmm, let's see... Is this person still around? No? Then what's the problem?

Let's use logic to reconstruct what probably happened:

1. Woodbury has over 500 members coming from rather diverse cultures;
2. Some clown thinks it would be cool to create an alt with an offensive name and invite him to the group;
3. Woodbury has over 500 members, making it somewhat difficult to scan the names of everyone in the group for potential offensiveness on a routine basis;
4. Idiot's offensive alt is later discovered, reported, and dealt with.
5. No problem!
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