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Old 11-21-2009, 10:09 AM   #1301 (permalink)
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In current events: An NCI staff notice has announced that the group has removed the infonodes from Ross and Maryport. The money saved from that will help pay for new class and events sessions.
I'm very happy to hear that NCI does not give in to blackmail from mentally unstable landlords. Let her insignificant crap sims die. NCI has plenty of other land to use.

Hilarious that she thought anyone would be impressed by her threats. She has finally shown her true face to the SL community. Anyone who consider renting anything from her should think again - and I'm sure there are a number of people who will point this out to people not familiar with her behaviour.
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PS: It's maybe time to petition for the shutdown of the infohub in Ross. It's very questionable that she integrates a public infohub into her own mall (most people sent to the sim are sent there by LL because there is an infohub there). Her behaviour shows that she thinks she owns the infohub. A Governor Linden infohub should not neighbour a person who acts like a vigilante, and obstructs NCI's work in the area. Linden Lab should move this infohub to a sim without the disruptive troll, harasser and vigilante known as Prokofy Neva.

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Old 11-21-2009, 11:39 AM   #1303 (permalink)
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Gotta protect that Woodbury University infiltration of NCI to the very end. Bravo for Ross landowner for kicking out the trash.
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PS: It's maybe time to petition for the shutdown of the infohub in Ross.
LOL. Oh, yes - this is an excellent move. Get the petition started and publicized as soon as possible. This, of course, is the only logical response.
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LOL. Oh, yes - this is an excellent move. Get the petition started and publicized as soon as possible. This, of course, is the only logical response.
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'Adventures in Disruption' realized. Removing greifer groups is a on-going battle. Thanks for making it easier by blogging your greifing activities.
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'Adventures in Disruption' realized. Removing greifer groups is a on-going battle. Thanks for making it easier by blogging your greifing activities.
I think you have to start by finding actual griefers. (^_^)y
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It is quite easy to find a greifer. Look at the membership of a group well-known for greifing in SL (Like having their island deleted by LL for crashing sims) - see your name as a member - and rid the area of any and all affiliation with any groups that supports your greifing.


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I am a member of Woodbury University. For those of you who don't know, WU is a group that contains people with common connections to the *chan culture, SA forums, and I think even Ebaums World. Many of these communities are older than SL. A less than liberal mind would consider them to be the gutter of the internet. In some cases, proudly so.

It's a diverse group. I know the reputation the group has due to the treatment of a certain mad blogger. I have been told details and history of some horrible events. So, I'm more than prepared to believe that there is a large number of A-holes and psychopaths in the group. My thing is, in my point of view, they don't make up the entire group.

For argument's sake, the Roman Catholic church knowingly has priests and volunteers that molest children. As a result, I believe in Association Fallacy and personally can't libel an entire group because of the activities of one portion of it's members, even if the group as a whole doesn't vilify these members for their behavior.
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:24 PM   #1309 (permalink)
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Like having their island deleted by LL for crashing sims)
You just go on and on, don't you Prok?

WU is not a griefing group.

Ravenglass Rentals and all other Prokofy-affiliated groups are griefing groups, on the other hand, because they are owned by Prokofy Neva, the greatest griefer and troll of them all.
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Tizzers Foxchase: (Saved Sun Jul 1 12:19:36 2007) Linden Lab has continued to find inappropriate uses of the Second Life region "Woodbury University" under your control. On the 16th of April, you were informed of problems with the activities taking place in the region. Many members of the Woodbury University group (which controls the region) have been detected before and after that date causing severe problems in Second Life, in violation of the terms of service. These problems include incidents of grid attacks, racism and intolerance, persistent harassment of other residents, and crashing the Woodbury University region itself while testing their abusive scripts. Due to the ongoing problems, Linden Lab has no option but to immediately close the Woodbury University region. If you believe that this notice has been sent in error, or that the details of this incident have not been adequately examined, please address your concerns in an e-mail to abuse-manager@lindenlab.com Sincerely yours, Customer Support Linden Lab 945 Battery Street San Francisco, CA
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:37 PM   #1311 (permalink)
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You are referring to an event well over 2 years ago. Woodbury University has its own region again. Clearly because it's not a griefing group. They even get a discount because its an educational sim. WU's chief organizer even knows half of the LL governance team in RL.

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The same WU greifer members are in the group two years later. Same greifers - same greifer group.

But really, the landlord sent out the right message in kicking out NCI - no greifer groups allowed. You can't complain about a greifer group and then rent to them. Well done.
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The same WU greifer members are in the group two years later. Same greifers - same greifer group.

But really, the landlord sent out the right message in kicking out NCI - no greifer groups allowed. You can't complain about a greifer group and then rent to them. Well done.
So, NCI is a griefer group now. LOL.

NCI did the right thing by refusing to give in to blackmail. NCI wasn't kicked out. NCI terminated the lease of a completely insignificant parcel due to the erratic behaviour and threats from the owner

The continued existence of a Linden Lab infohub in Ross is now in jeopardy, of course. Prokofy has made her choice.
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So, NCI is a griefer group now. LOL.
NCI is completely infiltrated by Woodbury University greifer group- the same group this year that (in a group that does not have open membership) had a member named niggerflavored coleslaw who was banned from SL by LL for greifing and racism while a member of Woodbury University.
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NCI did the right thing by refusing to give in to blackmail. NCI wasn't kicked out. NCI terminated the lease of a completely insignificant parcel due to the erratic behaviour and threats from the owner
No. The landowner terminated the lease of a greifer group. NCI would have happily stayed there if they weren't called out for their greifer affiliation.
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The continued existence of a Linden Lab infohub in Ross is now in jeopardy, of course. Prokofy has made her choice.
LOL. You think NCI and Woodbury have enough power to get a mainland infohub deleted? I'm like a kid at the carnival.
Please show me that trick.
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NCI is completely infiltrated by Woodbury University greifer group- the same group this year that (in a group that does not have open membership) had a member named niggerflavored coleslaw who was banned from SL by LL for greifing and racism while a member of Woodbury University.
How would you know? Woodbury University has around 500 members. They don't have a policy that avatar names must be politically correct - besides, any WU member can invite other members. Linden Lab accepted the registration of a user with that name in the first place.

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No. The landowner terminated the lease of a greifer group. NCI would have happily stayed there if they weren't called out for their greifer affiliation.
Untrue. NCI would have stayed if the landowner hadn't blackmailed them. As the landowner chose to blackmail NCI, NCI terminated the lease before the landowner had any chance to take any action, rather than giving in to the demands of the blackmailer. NCI is not interested in leasing parcels from people who are threatening them. You may consider this a general policy.

In any case, this was a small and completely insignificant parcel, which hardly makes any difference to NCI. By blackmailing a tenant like the NCI, Prokofy has ruined her own reputation as a landlord.

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LOL. You think NCI and Woodbury have enough power to get a mainland infohub deleted?
An infohub which is NOT functioning, where an aggressive neighbour (who is considered by LL to be a troll, and who was already banned from their forum and blog) obstructs NCI's work in the area and acts like a vigilante, harassing NCI teachers and other visitors to the area: Yes.

Linden Lab does not offer free infohubs that can be used as your personal property and integrated into your commercial malls.

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How would you know? Woodbury University has around 500 members. They don't have a policy that avatar names must be politically correct. Linden Lab accepted the registration of a user with that name in the first place.
So it is OK to you? I think you can begin to see the problem. We report folks who start groups with inflammatory names - just because they got away with it for a few weeks does not mean they get to keep the name. It is odd that you feel this is acceptable.
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Untrue. NCI would have stayed if the landowner hadn't blackmailed them. As the landowner chose to blackmail NCI, NCI terminated the lease before the landowner had any chance to take any action. NCI is not interested in leasing parcels from people who are threatening them. You may consider this a general policy.
And the ;landowner is not interested in leasing property to groups that harbour greifer groups. But the landowner was the one that called NCI on their affiliation. And the appropriate outcome was realized.
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In any case, this was a small and completely insignificant parcel, which hardly makes any difference to NCI. By blackmailing a tenant like the NCI, Prokofy has ruined her own reputation as a landlord.
A parcel in the heart of a infohub will rent for top dollar - everyone knows that. And the landlord has been successful since 2004 renting hundreds of meters of property and will continue to do so.

I am just sitting back and watching a noob trouble-maker systematically bring down an virtual organization in 3 months that existed in SL since 2005.
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An infohub which is NOT fuctioning, where an aggressive neighbour obstructs NCI's work in the area and acts like a vigilante, harassing NCI officers and other visitors to the area: Yes.
LL does not care about NCI and will make no moves to retaliate in their name. Just another community group gone rogue and dealt with appropriately.

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Obviously, they do.
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:20 PM   #1318 (permalink)
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And the appropriate outcome was realized.
I.e., NCI refused to give in to demands of a blackmailer and terminated their contract with her in response to her blackmailing. Finally we agree on someting.

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Er, keep dreaming *shrugs* lol

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I am just sitting back and watching a noob trouble-maker systematically bring down an virtual organization in 3 months that existed in SL since 2005.
Prokofy is the trouble-maker. And Immy is hardly a noob.

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Are you sure? You wait and see. LL is fed up with Prokofy, this is only a small part of the picture. Prokofy is right about one thing: Linden Lab allows people to annoy her because she is such an annoying troll herself.

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I.e., NCI refused to give in to demands of a blackmailer and terminated their contract with her. Finally we agree on someting.
Yup, good riddance to a greifer group - and good show for the landlord forcing their hand.
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So fed up that they deleted his holdings in 2007 and sent out a letter telling him to quit greifing - oh Wait - that wasn't the landlord - that was Woodbury University.
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If NCI should have a policy that members of certain groups are not allowed in NCI, it ought to be Ravenglass Rentals. I would definitely support a no Ravenglass Rentals policy. Ravenglass Rentals is affiliated with notorious troll, harasser and blackmailer Prokofy Neva.
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Yup, good riddance to a greifer group - and good show for the landlord forcing their hand.
So fed up that they deleted his holdings in 2007 and sent out a letter telling him to quit greifing - oh Wait - that wasn't the landlord - that was Woodbury University.
I don't like you.

It's just that simple.
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If NCI should have a policy that members of certain groups are not allowed in NCI, it ought to be Ravenglass Rentals. I would definitely support a no Ravenglass Rentals policy.
You support a group-affiliation policy as long as it meets your goals
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