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Old 06-16-2009, 05:06 AM   #251 (permalink)
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But it's not just land that is profitable. Top 8 classifieds - people shell out ridiculous amounts of money for that every week. Hundreds of thousands of L per ad, to be on the front of search. Most people do not click, but it builds brand awareness. I wonder if those people get 6k clicks a week. THOSE are the people I would expect to be pissed, and the folks right behind them on page 1 of shopping classifieds. They are not "unsuccessful" - quite the contrary.
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And bot farms, which cost nothing and also get their places ahead in the 'All' tab of search in all this? They get their brand name noticed for free if they line up their bots in sufficient numbers. I dislike that as much as I find it frustrating to see the amounts spent on classifieds (and yeah sure I'm jealous) but I presume those who do can a) afford it and b) find it works.

But are these the people who are yelling, or is it just a case of bandwagon-jumping people who enjoy a good gripe without knowing all the facts, despite not owning any sort of business?

I also wonder if more people are using that 'all' tab rather than the classifieds. Anybody have any ideas on that? I'm just curious.

I mean, the Lindens probably don't want people to know even if people are NOT using the classifieds, because it's good income - so I'm not expecting surveys any time soon. What if more people were to realise that the 'all' and a few good keywords is pretty useful, particularly if you remember to check the 'show in search button'? Heh.
Most of those super enormous classified ads are from a long running exploit that for whatever reason LL hasn't done anything about. There's no way that anyone can afford to pay for some of those classifieds week after week, some of which run upwards of 10k USD. I would be incredulous at a SL business willing to drop that much once, but consistently for months or years is total rubbish.

If the people who cheat the system pitch a fit because Azure got the MOTD and they didn't I hope LL bans every one of them on principle.

That said though they're pretty much a rip off either way. Adam pointed out as much but someone years ago, I can't remember who, basically did a several month study seeing how much traffic a classified ad got depending on its price and concluded resolutely that a L$100 ad got as much as a L$5000 ad and above.
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I don't think anyone is annoyed /at/ Adam. Obviously I'd jump at the opportunity to do this if I could especially if it was free which I'll assume it was until I hear otherwise. Probably many other business in SL feel the same. All this crazy drama is nothing but good for Azure.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that it's yet another example of LL favouring their special friends at the expense of absolutely everyone else who is trying to run an honest business. Obviously I'm not going to quit SL in disgust over this while my little estate is still profitable but this crap is really starting to wear me down.

I certainly don't think this shows they care about the land business. It just shows they care about their buddies. If LL cared about the land business they'd help encourage healthy competition, not try to stifle small businesses like this. The point is not that Joe Schmoes Mall o' Crap can't afford to advertise in MOTD, the point is that they never got the opportunity in the first place.
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I don't think anyone is annoyed /at/ Adam. Obviously I'd jump at the opportunity to do this if I could especially if it was free which I'll assume it was until I hear otherwise. Probably many other business in SL feel the same. All this crazy drama is nothing but good for Azure.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that it's yet another example of LL favouring their special friends at the expense of absolutely everyone else who is trying to run an honest business. Obviously I'm not going to quit SL in disgust over this while my little estate is still profitable but this crap is really starting to wear me down.

I certainly don't think this shows they care about the land business. It just shows they care about their buddies. If LL cared about the land business they'd help encourage healthy competition, not try to stifle small businesses like this. The point is not that Joe Schmoes Mall o' Crap can't afford to advertise in MOTD, the point is that they never got the opportunity in the first place.
If they really cared about their 'buddies' they would at least have rotated the MOTD ads, IMHO. Letting Adam take all the flak and not admitting - immediately - that what they told him and what actually happened were two different things is at best stupid. At worst downright cowardly.

And what's more, many people being what they are, they'll jump on the 'special favours' aspect without caring what really went on. People love bandwagons (me being no exception in some cases, I admit it freely).

Also, Joe Schmall's Mall o'Crap is probably sour because it's crap, and it's never going to develop into a decent business in SL anyway, or at least on the long term. Many people who claim 'oh, X gets all the best deals' spend so long being jealous of people who have a good product AND who work on getting known that they'll never find the time to develop their business.

Fwiw, my business is small. I KNOW I'm getting nowhere because I would rather build stuff than try and market it. Maybe I wouldn't ever be a big name even if I put a lot of Lindens into doing so, but income iss not my main motivation (would still love some, though!). I have a whole lot of respect for people who HAVE made it big in SL through hard work and establishing a reputation (and a good product), though.

Also fwiw I was recently looking for land. I checked out Azure (word of mouth, not ads or search). Found something wrongly listed as commercial but the agent I contacted was polite, helpful, and apologised (it would have been perfect, dammit). I didn't even know it was connected to Adam, but I sure appreciated their approach. I also contacted Ayesha - thanks to SLU - also superb service.
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Most of those super enormous classified ads are from a long running exploit that for whatever reason LL hasn't done anything about.
Seriously? That is STILL happening?

STILL?????

And people are pissed about a MOTD. Amazing.

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Heh, I'm a (much smaller) competitor of Adam's, and I'm not pissed about this at all. However flawed the plan, it at least shows that LL cares about those of us in the land business. All of the complaining and whining is just sour grapes from people whose businesses are not as successful. I want to hit them over the head with a clue by four and point out that their little clothing business that earns $20 US a month is not going to buy them the MOTD any more than Sam's Subs on 6th Street can run an ad during the Super Bowl. Linden Lab is a business, not a charity or a commune. They are going to reward their biggest customers.
I am in the land business and I don't consider Adam or Anshe competitors, that would be like my local corner shop claiming it was a competitor of Tesco, it's a different ballpark.

However I don't buy this idea that Linden Lab should reward their bigger customers in this fashion, I have no qualms with them cutting them some breaks but giving them free advertising like this should not be one of those breaks, admittedly I think it's a cack way of advertising anyway but that's really not the point.

I also don't agree with showcase listing fashion, it's a similar issue, Linden Lab shouldn't be doing that, the market can sort these issues out.

If the adverts were paid for and Adam could afford them and I couldn't, that's tough shit, that's the market working, that's how Linden Lab should let it work.
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The only thing I got out of this was a total confusion at when exactly Briana turned into a sanctimonious prissy bitch, and why Anya seemed to have a bone to pick with SLU all of a sudden.

Did I miss something there?
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The only thing I got out of this was a total confusion at when exactly Briana turned into a sanctimonious prissy bitch, and why Anya seemed to have a bone to pick with SLU all of a sudden.

Did I miss something there?
Come sit on my lap and I'll tell you. You see there was this Alternate Timeline. And there was this Romulan Captain whose Open Space sim was destroyed, and he wanted revenge......

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Come sit on my lap and I'll tell you. You see there was this Alternate Timeline. And there was this Romulan Captain who's Open Space sim was destroyed, and he wanted revenge......
You had me at "sit on my lap"

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I know, that's why it was so funny.
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First of all, I thought this thread was about 'Match of the Day' so I ignored it....

Second, has Brianna ever had 4 posts in a row without mentioning her born date?
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Second, has Brianna ever had 4 posts in a row without mentioning her born date?
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