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Molton Brandenburg · 06-15-2009, 08:59 PM

That would be me. The name of the club is appropriately called The Loiterer's Lounge.

Xiomara Mendes · 06-15-2009, 09:06 PM

I also talked to one of the students of the DJ school. Unfortunately for him, he hasn't gotten much of a chance to try DJing live due to some technical difficulties on his end. However, he did confirm my suspicion that she's teaching things that one can learn on one's own, for free. For instance, she "gives" her students a demo copy of SAM.

I gave him a copy of a notecard a friend made up for me when I was starting out and went on my merry way. There was no reason for him to spend $500L on "lessons".

Sonja Aeghin · 06-15-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiomara Mendes

OK, let me get this straight. This person is upset about a wall, but she's a-ok with this?

It's part of her business, so it ok with her, the hypocrite.

Johnnie Carling · 06-16-2009, 05:06 AM

Ironically I just ran into her a few min's ago.

I just TPed to a random place in Zindra and was walking around like everybody else (OH.. btw it's laggy as hell already) and i see this in my chat window. (I was wearing my Mistress' "house pet" tag)

[1:53] Lias Leandros: no pets allowed
[1:53] Lias Leandros: sorry

just seemed to be a bit snotty to make a remark like that (on the new adult land at that) to somebody just walking past.

oh well like i care what people think

Nimrod Yaffle · 06-16-2009, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnie Carling

Ironically I just ran into her a few min's ago.

I just TPed to a random place in Zindra and was walking around like everybody else (OH.. btw it's laggy as hell already) and i see this in my chat window. (I was wearing my Mistress' "house pet" tag)

[1:53] Lias Leandros: no pets allowed
[1:53] Lias Leandros: sorry

just seemed to be a bit snotty to make a remark like that (on the new adult land at that) to somebody just walking past.

oh well like i care what people think

hahaha, me too! I remember seeing this thread and passing it without reading it. When I saw her tags protesting Bear, I came back to see what it was all about.

And the funny thing is that accross the street from the main hub, there's a small "park" with a sign that reads, "All pets must be leashed"

(Actually it's a picture of a dog with a leash, but that's the name of the sign or something close to it!

)

Imnotgoing Sideways · 06-16-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnie Carling

Ironically I just ran into her a few min's ago.

I just TPed to a random place in Zindra and was walking around like everybody else (OH.. btw it's laggy as hell already) and i see this in my chat window. (I was wearing my Mistress' "house pet" tag)

[1:53] Lias Leandros: no pets allowed
[1:53] Lias Leandros: sorry

just seemed to be a bit snotty to make a remark like that (on the new adult land at that) to somebody just walking past.

oh well like i care what people think

That's the pattern. (^_^)

>>Go to places she doesn't own and would rather not visit.

>>Tell people what to do and how she deems them unacceptable.

>>Raise a fuss about the evils of SL, the Lindens, and those pesky other residents.

>>Find a forum topic that she can hijack to further her agenda without starting her own bloody thread.

... Even after I got the 'broadly offensive' thread locked over all the pedo claims she had the duncan-dognads to IM me and "gloat" that she "won the thread"... At first, I was all "eh?". Then I LOL'd. =^-^=

CoyoteMomiji · 06-16-2009, 08:42 AM

"Duncan-dognads".

:lolspit:

Miriel Enfield · 06-16-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Xiomara Mendes

OK, let me get this straight. This person is upset about a wall, but she's a-ok with this?

MY EYES!

I'm not sure if this is better or worse than the store sign I once saw with the prim butt on it.

Beezle Warburton · 06-16-2009, 11:14 AM

If she (A) wasn't a raving psycho-bitch and (B) was capable of building in something resembling good taste that might actually attract people instead of burning out their retinas this would be a non-issue.

reeneebob Birmingham · 06-16-2009, 12:19 PM

Be sure to pick up her notecard of judgement.

It's pretty much made of win and lulz and crayzeeeeeeeeeee eyes.

Rev Eponym · 06-16-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beezle Warburton

If she (A) wasn't a raving psycho-bitch and (B) was capable of building in something resembling good taste that might actually attract people instead of burning out their retinas this would be a non-issue.

Or (C) able to spell her own name, which one would assume was supposed to be 'Lisa' when she registered.

.

**Mourna Biziou** · 06-16-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Miriel Enfield

MY EYES!

I'm not sure if this is better or worse than the store sign I once saw with the prim butt on it.

That reminded me... I saw this a while back and meant to post it, then forgot.

Darkley · 06-16-2009, 12:40 PM

The HORROR

Miriel Enfield · 06-16-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by reeneebob Birmingham

Be sure to pick up her notecard of judgement.

It's pretty much made of win and lulz and crayzeeeeeeeeeee eyes.

Post it!

Some of us want the lulz and are lazy, you know.

reeneebob Birmingham · 06-16-2009, 01:54 PM

Only Miriel could make me log in to copy/paste

BEHOLD!

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TITLE - GROSS ABUSES

While Linden Lab gives lip service to improving the experience of premium account holders the following harassment continues.
THE MEGARIM WALL AROUND TH BEAR INFOHUB REMAINS AS AN TESTAMENT TO LINDEN LAB'S COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE OF MAINL AND PREMIUM ACCOUNTS.

I have had land in Bear sim since the sim was created in 2005. Before there was a telehub, road or infohub. In 2006 when Torley Linden asked me did I want a Infohub for new players to rez and explore I said yes. He chose the builder because I was fairly new and could not build. The build was completed and sat there for some time. New players occasionally rezzed, wandered and moved on.

In 2007 Lindne Lab changed the definition of the infohub and encouraged mass unsupervised gathering there. So now a sim that can only hold 40 avatars at once mostly supports the infohub loiterers (not just new players now, but mostly older, established accounts that like to greif and stand in the infohub). I pay $125 USD a month in tier to use the sim resources in Bear and cannot even hold a class for five avatars in my DJ school. My money goes to support Linden Lab's parking lot.

After a year of Abuse reports to Linden Lab about UNFAIR USE OF SIM RESOURCES, their Live Help representative offerred me the same amount of land in another mainland sim. This was some progress. For 12 months the AR Team, The Community Team and Concierge said that the infohub had no negative impact on the sim server and did not impede my ability to use my fair share of resources. Finally Live Help admitted thatthe infohub uses an excessive amount of sim resources. But the offer to move me was not one that made sense. I was here first. I have over 16,000 Meters in the sim with custom content and builds on them. The Infohub is a wooden shack (that people rarely enter - they stand around outside 'camping' for hours and chatting) and a few prims with a brick texture on it. It is of course easier to move that small structure than for me to move my builds. The parking lot loiterers can loiterer anywhere. I have invested nearly four years, thousands of real dollars and hours into my location. And I will not be bullied into starting over. Even by my service provider.

One day after I refused Live Help's offer to move me, Bear sim Infohub was full for three days straight. I had to cancel all classes and events because we could not even teleport the staff into the sim. After I Abuse Reported the infohub for UNFAIR USE OF SIM RESOURCES the resident that built the infohub in 2006 came to the infohub and rezzed megaprim walls around the infohub and informed residents in the infohub that the wall was there to block site of my parcel across the street. of course this blocked the other tier-paying residents' parcels from the people rezzing in the infohub also.

To be clear - I do not derive my customer base from the traffick at the infohub. If I wanted to monopolize upon that sort of traffick - I would have had one of my clubs where my school is (across from the infohub) and rented out retail space to anyone that wanted it. So this wall has no effect on my SL business. What it does effect is the relationship the service provider (Linden Lab) has with their Premium Account holder (me). Since the Linden Department of Public Works refuses to remove the wall (Citing the Bear infohub is set to a group owned by Torley Linden so only Torley has any oversight over this particular infohub even though it is Governor Lindne Land), Torley Linden will not take the wall down or have his group member that rezzed the wall remove it and Katt Linden refused to acknowledge that a agent of Linden Lab abused her power to rez the megaprims on Governor Linden Land (even as Linden Lab discourages the use of megaprims on the mainland- hypocritical at best) - the wall remains and the builder continues to tell residents she rezzed it to block the Tier payer in the sim.

For a agent of Linden Lab to block the view of Bear Sim from residents rezzing in the infohub is a gross abuse of the power Linden Lab alotted to her. The Department of Public Works refuses to remove the wall stating that the Bear Infohub is under Torley Linden's supervision since it is set to his group - and Torley Linden refuses to respond about the wall or remove it. This is all in an effort to force me to move out of Bear Sim so the Linden parking lot can flourish.

So here we are going into YEAR TWO of the Mexican standoff between a premium account holder and the service provider. When Lindne Lab gets serious about curtailing the greivance actions of it's employees toward their customers they will be well on their way to vastly improving the experience of premium accounts.

This is fair waring to anyone thinking of getting a premium account and buyimg mainland server space from Linden Lab.

-Lias Leandros
Premium Account Holder in Bear Sim since 2005

Beezle Warburton · 06-16-2009, 01:59 PM

bladyblue Bommerang = alt

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I'm not bad - I'm just drawn that way.

Bear Sim Tier payer since the sim was rezzed in 2005. Linden Lab: TAKE DOWN THE GRIEF WALL IN BEAR INFOHUB
See my first Pick
bladyblue@gmail.com

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LINDEN LAB ALLOWING THIS RESIDENT TO REZ A GREIF WALL TO BLOCK OUT ALL BUSINESS IN BEAR FROM THE INFOUB IS AN ATTACK ON TIER PAYING CUSTOMERS.
LL Department of Public Works Approved Grief wall around the Bear parking lot to block new players sent to Bear sim from the tier-paying business owners in the sim.

Miriel Enfield · 06-16-2009, 02:30 PM

Thanks, reeneebob!

I don't know much about the mainland: underneath her... excessive enthusiasm, does she have a point? It seems like she has a legitimate complaint if one parcel owner on the sim (LL or otherwise) is filling up the sim. Yeah, LL offered her land (which I'm surprised about -- I guess she really bitched up a storm), and accepting it certainly would have been the easiest thing, but I'd be kind of ticked too if I were asked to move because someone else messed up my sim. Is there something I'm missing?

**Max Herzog** · 06-16-2009, 02:33 PM

She appears to think that the "loiterers" in Bear infohub are just there to spite her. Consequently, the increasing hysteria of her response has only encouraged more people to hang out there to see what the crazy lady does next.

Miriel Enfield · 06-16-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Herzog

She appears to think that the "loiterers" in Bear infohub are just there to spite her. Consequently, the increasing hysteria of her response has only encouraged more people to hang out there to see what the crazy lady does next.

Was that in her notecard? That's not how I read it.

I mean, she seems nutty, but I can't say I blame her for being pissed that an infohub is sucking up sim resources. If the infohub is actually doing that, of course.

Beezle Warburton · 06-16-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel Enfield

Was that in her notecard? That's not how I read it.

I mean, she seems nutty, but I can't say I blame her for being pissed that an infohub is sucking up sim resources. If the infohub is actually doing that, of course.

Wouldn't a sane person just leave?

She claims she doesn't need the traffic anyways . . .

**Max Herzog** · 06-16-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel Enfield

Was that in her notecard? That's not how I read it.

I mean, she seems nutty, but I can't say I blame her for being pissed that an infohub is sucking up sim resources. If the infohub is actually doing that, of course.

I had the misfortune to read countless posts in the SL Forums about this very subject. The notecard casts her as victim and discreetly omits her own antagonistic behaviour over time.

Beezle Warburton · 06-16-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Herzog

I had the misfortune to read countless posts in the SL Forums about this very subject. The notecard casts her as victim and discreetly omits her own antagonistic behaviour over time.

Like standing around and telling non-n00bs to leave.

Like glaringly *intentionally* shitacular builds.

Juniper Sideshow · 06-16-2009, 02:54 PM

::WARNING::

I have just been made aware of my "Special Status" as a Premium Member.

I am formulating my list of demands and will report back shortly.

Additionally? Since I actually *knew* about SL back in 2006? I am making my demands retroactive and will abjectly refuse to use my actual SL Rez Day.

Down with Loiterers! Up with Bears! Grrrrrrr!

Rev Eponym · 06-16-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Herzog

She appears to think that the "loiterers" in Bear infohub are just there to spite her.

Which is like calling the NYPD to complain about the noisy neighbors-- when you live next door to Grand Central Station.

kwaaaayyzzeeee...

.

Troy Vogel · 06-16-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiomara Mendes

OK, let me get this straight. This person is upset about a wall, but she's a-ok with this?

Thanks. I am blind now.

06-15-2009, 09:06 PM	#27 (permalink)
Xiomara Mendes Not here to make friends I'm here for Brett Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Where people are shorter and live by the water Posts: 2,728 My Mood: SL Join Date: 01/10/07	I also talked to one of the students of the DJ school. Unfortunately for him, he hasn't gotten much of a chance to try DJing live due to some technical difficulties on his end. However, he did confirm my suspicion that she's teaching things that one can learn on one's own, for free. For instance, she "gives" her students a demo copy of SAM. I gave him a copy of a notecard a friend made up for me when I was starting out and went on my merry way. There was no reason for him to spend $500L on "lessons". __________________ NOBODY IN THIS HOUSE ORDERED ANY MILLIPEDES.

06-16-2009, 08:42 AM	#32 (permalink)
CoyoteMomiji Tarot Obsessor Zzzt zzzt zzzt Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,500 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 19 SL Join Date: 01/26/06	"Duncan-dognads". :lolspit: __________________ Slick closed until further notice. Recidivist Sideways: YOU'LL TAKE MY ROUGH, BUTTERY FRIENDSHIP, AND YOU'LL LIKE IT

06-16-2009, 11:14 AM	#34 (permalink)
Beezle Warburton Senior Member Beeble Bubble Bimbo Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Darkmere Posts: 3,890 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 22 SL Join Date: October 24, 2006 Business: Cortech Enterprises	If she (A) wasn't a raving psycho-bitch and (B) was capable of building in something resembling good taste that might actually attract people instead of burning out their retinas this would be a non-issue. __________________ In SL Apez.biz

06-16-2009, 12:19 PM	#35 (permalink)
reeneebob Birmingham FUCKCHOP! FUUUUUUCKCHOP! Because in a world of confusion, sometimes you just need some John Effin' Taylor. VIVA LA BASSGOD! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada - COMMIE SOCIALIST COUNTRY WHOOOO! WHOOOOOOOO! Posts: 827 My Mood: SL Join Date: August 7, 2006 Business: I support others business	Be sure to pick up her notecard of judgement. It's pretty much made of win and lulz and crayzeeeeeeeeeee eyes. __________________ "BOP BOPBOP BA BOP BOP BOPBOP...this is planet earth" - Simon Lebon

06-16-2009, 12:40 PM	#38 (permalink)
Darkley Pirate of Men's pants Oxygen thief Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: lahndahn Posts: 1,822 My Mood: SL Join Date: Dec 07 kind of Business: Beethoven Photography Blog Entries: 1 Awards: 1	The HORROR __________________ Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinis alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes My Flickr stream.....http://www.flickr.com/photos/darkley/

06-15-2009, 08:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
Molton Brandenburg Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2	That would be me. The name of the club is appropriately called The Loiterer's Lounge.

06-16-2009, 05:06 AM	#29 (permalink)
Johnnie Carling Senior Member just a slut Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 409 My Mood: SL Join Date: 2007-08-17 Business: Studio 93 and Johnnie's Slut Shack	Ironically I just ran into her a few min's ago. I just TPed to a random place in Zindra and was walking around like everybody else (OH.. btw it's laggy as hell already) and i see this in my chat window. (I was wearing my Mistress' "house pet" tag) [1:53] Lias Leandros: no pets allowed [1:53] Lias Leandros: sorry just seemed to be a bit snotty to make a remark like that (on the new adult land at that) to somebody just walking past. oh well like i care what people think

06-16-2009, 02:30 PM	#42 (permalink)
Miriel Enfield Senior Member Behold, the power of flopsy ears. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,469 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 3	Thanks, reeneebob! I don't know much about the mainland: underneath her... excessive enthusiasm, does she have a point? It seems like she has a legitimate complaint if one parcel owner on the sim (LL or otherwise) is filling up the sim. Yeah, LL offered her land (which I'm surprised about -- I guess she really bitched up a storm), and accepting it certainly would have been the easiest thing, but I'd be kind of ticked too if I were asked to move because someone else messed up my sim. Is there something I'm missing?

06-16-2009, 02:33 PM	#43 (permalink)
Max Herzog Quintessential SLU Supporter Acceptable in the 80s Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,539 My Mood: SL Join Date: 9 July 2006 Blog Entries: 1	She appears to think that the "loiterers" in Bear infohub are just there to spite her. Consequently, the increasing hysteria of her response has only encouraged more people to hang out there to see what the crazy lady does next. __________________ I do not like your tone. It has an ephemeral, whinging aspect. One man's Flickr obsession One man's second Flickr obsession on account of the first one being borked last.fm

06-16-2009, 02:54 PM	#48 (permalink)
Juniper Sideshow Charmer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6	::WARNING:: I have just been made aware of my "Special Status" as a Premium Member. I am formulating my list of demands and will report back shortly. Additionally? Since I actually knew about SL back in 2006? I am making my demands retroactive and will abjectly refuse to use my actual SL Rez Day. Down with Loiterers! Up with Bears! Grrrrrrr!

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