[Roxanne Blue]

Originally Posted by Ishina

Post some funny profiles, dramapants

Google search of... lol drama pants...

gets you this funny picture...




and this one...



Funny enough?

[Ishina]

[Persephone Milk]

I'm very open about talking about who I am - anyone who isn't is just some boy pretending to be a supermodel.

I met a girl in Second Life almost five years ago. Her profile didn't say very much about her real life, so you had to get to know her pretty well before she revealed much. She was a bit awkward at first, and not entirely comfortable in her virtual skin. Over time she gradually learned to just be herself, how to express more of her true heart and identity, and she decided not to worry very much about what other people think. As I look back on our relationship, I realize that I have learned a lot from her and I am forever thankful that she remains an important part of my everyday life - even if her avatar doesn't look exactly like her real life self.

[Rhonda Huntress]

Gee, I wonder why all the girls left him.

(See my picks for more) My name is a mouthful, so call me Pep. It'll prove you read my profile. I am sharp when pissed off so don't talk to me unless you can give me time - I have infinite patience but a very short attention span. I have words, honesty and humour, but I'm broke and grumpy; my acerbity amuses most people - usually until it is directed at them. Nevertheless, on my better days I'm extremely good company looking for all sorts of fun things to see - and do!

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I have many disorders apparently, principal of which is a complete distrust of those who have sworn obedience to another, permanently or temporarily, as I can no longer rely on anything that they say to me, based on bitter experience. Accordingly, if you are in any way a slave or a sub I will not communicate with you unless you genuinely want help in being deprogrammed. Yes, I am prepared to give up much for my principles.

And you are almost certainly a rubbish sub/slave as well, whatever you think, as is whatever school of BDSM you attended, got ripped off at, and probably got brainwashed into thinking the tutor cared for you rather than what he/she could get out of you. Like more money, more free sex, more sycophantic role-playing . . . strike a chord?

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Nice place . . . even nicer girl. The place has gone now and so has she. Shame she no longer wants anything to do with me. Since . . .

. . . I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them obnoxious I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.

And . . .

. . . stupidity can not be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation.


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A bordello/club/dancefloor which was also a great place just to hang around - as well as an escort agency - for when only the best would do; and I personally recommend 99% of the girls that worked there. Don't ask about the other one!
Oh - and I miss you terribly Freya . . .


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Not going back there in a hurry - it might be embarrassing and get me into a fight.

Yes, a girl was involved, but it brought her more trouble than it did me, although in the end she seems to have come through it and emerged the other end happier..

[Ned Easterwood]

Originally Posted by Persephone Milk

I met a girl in Second Life almost five years ago. Her profile didn't say very much about her real life, so you had to get to know her pretty well before she revealed much. She was a bit awkward at first, and not entirely comfortable in her virtual skin. Over time she gradually learned to just be herself, how to express more of her true heart and identity, and she decided not to worry very much about what other people think. As I look back on our relationship, I realize that I have learned a lot from her and I am forever thankful that she remains an important part of my everyday life - even if her avatar doesn't look exactly like her real life self.

[Pamela Galli]

Here is my candidate:

hewo my name is Lamby and i am fours years old.Datz mez at camp,mez is in de scoutz.Mez haz a bery best frwiend and she is my sissy too nadia,mez haz lubing parwents and dey are de bestest in all of sl.Mez one lucky kid.Mez haz a big sissy too,and she isnt one you wantz to cross eiver. My Daddy rockz he is de king of kings de best Daddy in de whole sl world mez lubz him lotz and trust mez dere is alot to lubz .

[Ishina]

Is that supposed to be a child or a gangsta?

[Milana Cavan]

Originally Posted by Rhonda Huntress

Gee, I wonder why all the
girls left him.



Quote:
(See my picks for more) My name is a mouthful, so call me Pep. It'll prove you read my profile. I am sharp when pissed off so don't talk to me unless you can give me time - I have infinite patience but a very short attention span. I have words, honesty and humour, but I'm broke and grumpy; my acerbity amuses most people - usually until it is directed at them. Nevertheless, on my better days I'm extremely good company looking for all sorts of fun things to see - and do!

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I have many disorders apparently, principal of which is a complete distrust of those who have sworn obedience to another, permanently or temporarily, as I can no longer rely on anything that they say to me, based on bitter experience. Accordingly, if you are in any way a slave or a sub I will not communicate with you unless you genuinely want help in being deprogrammed. Yes, I am prepared to give up much for my principles.

And you are almost certainly a rubbish sub/slave as well, whatever you think, as is whatever school of BDSM you attended, got ripped off at, and probably got brainwashed into thinking the tutor cared for you rather than what he/she could get out of you. Like more money, more free sex, more sycophantic role-playing . . . strike a chord?

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Nice place . . . even nicer girl. The place has gone now and so has she. Shame she no longer wants anything to do with me. Since . . .

. . . I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them obnoxious I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.

And . . .

. . . stupidity can not be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation.


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A bordello/club/dancefloor which was also a great place just to hang around - as well as an escort agency - for when only the best would do; and I personally recommend 99% of the girls that worked there. Don't ask about the other one!
Oh - and I miss you terribly Freya . . .


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Not going back there in a hurry - it might be embarrassing and get me into a fight.

Yes, a girl was involved, but it brought her more trouble than it did me, although in the end she seems to have come through it and emerged the other end happier..

You know, the evol in me could have a lot of fun with this guy.

[Milana Cavan]

Originally Posted by Ingrid N.

How was her profile about revealing RL info? Is there a new policy where you have to pick a supermodel of your choice as your fake identity or reveal your rl info now? I think I want Naomi Campbell. She's pretty cool with the anger issues and such.

People of either gender who like pretending to be slutty lingerie models on the internet are usually pretty boring to talk, you know. Oh yeah you love getting naked and rubbing yourself on the furniture blinggirl3455, that's fantastic but I was trying to talk to someone typing with both hands tonight. How is not wanting to engage in that kind of conversation offensive to you? Because you're a dude with a female avatar and feel threatened because some 21 year old may or may not want to chat?

Please don't go there. It's bad enough we had drama about this a few months back. We don't need it again.

[Roxanne Blue]

Originally Posted by Ishina

Is that supposed to be a child or a gangsta?

Apparently the two are not mutually exclusive.....

[Phant Nabob]

". . I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them obnoxious I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."

Nice unattributed quote there.

[Midi Reifsnider]

Originally Posted by Milana Cavan

Please don't go there. It's bad enough we had drama about this a few months back. We don't need it again.

It's ok that you have that opinion, but I think it's ok for Ingrid to express hers too. It's something that a lot of us do have an opinion on and it's bound to come up from time to time. It's a fine line between deception and role play, and there are always going to be disagreements about what falls into which category.

If people don't want to discuss the issue at all, perhaps it would be better to avoid bringing it up altogether.

[Ned Easterwood]

Originally Posted by Midi Reifsnider

It's ok that you have that opinion, but I think it's ok for Ingrid to express hers too. It's something that a lot of us do have an opinion on and it's bound to come up from time to time. It's a fine line between deception and role play, and there are always going to be disagreements about what falls into which category.

If people don't want to discuss the issue at all, perhaps it would be better to avoid bringing it up altogether.

Originally Posted by Persephone Milk

I met a girl in Second Life almost five years ago. Her profile didn't say very much about her real life, so you had to get to know her pretty well before she revealed much. She was a bit awkward at first, and not entirely comfortable in her virtual skin. Over time she gradually learned to just be herself, how to express more of her true heart and identity, and she decided not to worry very much about what other people think. As I look back on our relationship, I realize that I have learned a lot from her and I am forever thankful that she remains an important part of my everyday life - even if her avatar doesn't look exactly like her real life self.

Persephone has said everything better than I could, as usual.

[Max Herzog]

Struggling to see how that is relevant to Midi's post, but whatever.

[Dick McMinnar]

Originally Posted by Phant Nabob

". . I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them obnoxious I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."

Nice unattributed quote there.

Lazarus Long isn't it?

[Midi Reifsnider]

Originally Posted by Ned Easterwood

Persephone has said everything better than I could, as usual.

I was specifically addressing Milana's request that the subject of men playing female avs should not be discussed. There is a whole spectrum of people who fall into that category, and while Persephone's post is a description of one situation, there are many examples of others that have not turned out quite so well. There are wide range of motives and experiences in this area and we can't assume that what applies to one person applies to them all.

I really don't want to get into a to and fro about it, I just think that if you or Milana don't want to discuss the subject perhaps it might be better not to bring it up in the first place.

[Carter-Madhu]

Even though I usually inch closer to the minority side on the issue of RL gender - as I've stated before, it doesn't matter to me for casual or even intimately friendly interactions, but for sexual relationships it would be a showstopper - I do see Ned's point on this one.

The girl whose profile he posted did seem to presume that if you weren't comfortable talking about your RL (with her), then you were a boy posing as a supermodel.

I agree with Ned that this is both presumptuous of her, and an arrogant thing to put in one's profile. I am on the middling side of things when it comes to talking about RL - I don't mind it, but it's not where I like to start conversations with strangers in SL - and if I saw that in profile I'd be seriously turned off. (And that's from someone whose avatar isn't remotely super-model-like.)

So I see Ned's point here.

Darkley makes a good point too:

Originally Posted by Darkley

I do reveal RL information, to friends, I don't give it out to strangers, however I don't feel the need to write in my profile RL IS PRIVATE DONT ASK ME ABOUT RL OR I WILL MUTE YOU!!!! etc etc

When people are so outrageously anti rl info, my experience in SL tells me that these people are either a) not worth knowing b) are hiding something

This is the opposite extreme, and I also find it offputting. Truth is, I tend to find profiles offputting that purport to tell me what not to do in such angry terms, or that tells me that if I might be dismissed or cause anger based upon one question casually asked without intention to offend. It makes me disinclined to enter a casual conversation for fear of saying the wrong thing.

I adore this thread and believe me I laugh at as many profiles as everyone else, but I recognize that this is a bit of a thorny topic for many. Often when someone highlights a profile here it's not what's being said but rather the tone that's taken in it that gets the poster's attention.

For example, people make fun of profile picks professing undying love for one's girlfriend or BFF or whatever, given the trend in SL to do this after just a few days' relationship and to change them on a whim. Yet on the few occasions when I've been added to someone's profile picks (or put someone in mine) it's been only after very significant relationships have formed and weathered certain milestones - and it's been of enormous significance to me. So while I might snicker at "mess with her and I'll cut you" - the words "because of her" in a certain someone's profile - or "keeps me sane" in someone else's - are enough to make my heart swell with joy every time I see them, even if they might make an outside observer's eyes roll a bit.

The point of this long-winded early-morning blather is that people can see the same profile differently, and there should be room here for opinions about those differences, respectfully expressed.

[Serious Cat]

I really find this profile obnoxious



On the other paw , this profile is excellent


Which goes to show everyone has their biases (though mine are the true natural order ).

[Persephone Milk]

Originally Posted by Midi Reifsnider

There is a whole spectrum of people who fall into that category, and while Persephone's post is a description of one situation, there are many examples of others that have not turned out quite so well.

My post was just a personal story, about me, and not a response to anybody in this thread. I apologize sincerely if my quotation made it seem otherwise. For what it is worth, I am a big believer in honesty. I have seen some truly heart crushing moments when people have not been truthful about real life details like gender and marital status. Without honesty you can't truly be close to anybody - and I like to be close

[Darkley]

I dislike aggressive profiles, the ASK ME ABOUT XXXX and MESS WITH XXXX etc.

When someone is this aggressive in their profile, I have no interest in communicating with them, I do IM people with funny, interesting profiles. It

[Ishina]

It's called Second Life for a reason. The clue is in the name.

If people feel pressured into disclosing personal details, because if they don't they will automatically be branded with all the negative stigma born of other peoples projected insecurities, then it's just taking something away from the pure experience - for all involved. A second life should be completely free of all the shackles of the first life, if that is what you choose. It is enough for a stranger to know that I am from earth - and if by not telling them my life story in our first meeting that means I have something to hide, or am somehow being dishonest, then frankly I don’t give a flying rats ass, and that’s their loss not mine. You will find out what I let you find out, at my pace. No more, no less.

A guy started chatting to me in SL. Typical meeting, chit-chat etc. I checked out his profile out of habit and noticed there was nothing in it. Nothing at all, except for a rez date showing he’d been here for years. Anyone would be forgiven for thinking he was as dull as his profile - first impressions and all that - but I could just tell from the way he chatted that this was far from the truth. Ya know… it turned out that he was the complete polar opposite of an empty profile. Dare I say, he is the most interesting person I have ever met, in or out of real life. A beautiful mind, an amazing artist, kind, stubborn, funny, serious, and incredibly deep. He’s inspiring - both on a creative level and a spiritual level. Something he might say might have me thinking about it for days after. It’s humbling to know him. I still know nothing about his personal life, other than wonderful anecdotes and deeply moving stories of his past, and the skill and artistic experience he has shared with me. I don’t know his name, his age, his nationality. I assume he is a man, but who knows? I don’t feel the need to ask any of those things anymore. He is who he is, and I’m so glad our paths crossed that day.

TL;DR version: Never judge a book by it’s cover, never assume you have it all worked out, and don‘t assume your little rules apply to everyone.

[Midi Reifsnider]

Originally Posted by Persephone Milk

My post was just a personal story, about me, and not a response to anybody in this thread. I apologize sincerely if my quotation made it seem otherwise.

I totally understand, and it was more the way that your post was being used that I was responding to, not the post itself.

For what it is worth, I am a big believer in honesty. I have seen some truly heart crushing moments when people have not been truthful about real life details like gender and marital status. Without honesty you can't truly be close to anybody - and I like to be close

This is it in a nutshell for me. It's pretty extreme for the profile owner to be quite so black and white about things, but the bottom line is, if you have any sort of relationship with someone online, if it's to be meaningful at all, gender and marital status are things that may cause problems if not disclosed (for some people, I accept that it may not make any difference for lots of other people).

[Milana Cavan]

Originally Posted by Midi Reifsnider

It's ok that you have that opinion, but I think it's ok for Ingrid to express hers too. It's something that a lot of us do have an opinion on and it's bound to come up from time to time. It's a fine line between deception and role play, and there are always going to be disagreements about what falls into which category.

If people don't want to discuss the issue at all, perhaps it would be better to avoid bringing it up altogether.

Hey, she's the one that took it to a personal level, not me.

This is the reason I haven't posted a lot in the last few months, and I see that my self imposed sabbatical hasn't been long enough.

[Midi Reifsnider]

Originally Posted by Milana Cavan

Hey, she's the one that took it to a personal level, not me.

This is the reason I haven't posted a lot in the last few months, and I see that my self imposed sabbatical hasn't been long enough.

I'm sure Ingrid can answer for herself, and I'm not going to pretend that I speak for her, but all I can say is that if you ARE a man playing a female av, and you don't want people to discuss it, maybe you shouldn't bring it up. I don't mean you, I mean Ned. If I was him, I'd have read that profile and chuckled quietly or shared with friends, but the moment you put it up here for us all to read, then you're running the risk of others seeing it from a different angle and saying so. ESPECIALLY after all the tension this very subject has caused in the past.

[Darkley]

There was nothing wrong with the profile that Ned posted, a little harsh yes, but not outrageous, people who refuse point blank to say a single word about their rl and are aggressive about people asking anything are usually hiding something

There was a female avi in a group I was in, we were doing chinese horoscopes, and she wouldnt tell me the year of her birth, saying 'I don't give rl info' - to a YEAR!!! that is a huge turnoff that someone wont reveal even insignificant things, things that make you human

Yes, its Second Life, but I am me, I am not playing a character, I am not in RP sims, and I don't get on with those who do play a character and who treat it like a 'game'