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Starry Goss · 03-08-2009, 05:11 AM

I noticed on the Bloodlines site that they have a recent update to their HUDs. Now it's a forced update.

Numbers 2 and 3 are of interest to us. For #2, the HUD won't let them bite newbies younger than 14 days. The newbies will only be able to join by buying the HUD or waiting over 2 weeks to be bit.

With #3, renaming or adding stuff to the linkset of the fangs apparently would cause them to not work, to keep them from being modded into fake hugs that are actually bites. Didn't realize that was a problem.

What about newbies who didn't log in much until long after the 14 day aura of protection expired, due to needing to get better hardware or a change in interest? Were newbies in infohubs a large percentage of their influx of converts?

Could they try bypassing the tamper controls by just hiding the fangs inside the av or something?

Joshua Nightshade · 03-08-2009, 06:32 AM

For #2, I heard that a good percentage of Bloodlines stuff got abused by people utilizing fake alt accounts and bots. So that's probably as much to prevent that sort of game-gaming as it is protecting newbies.

Fmeh · 03-08-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

For #2, I heard that a good percentage of Bloodlines stuff got abused by people utilizing fake alt accounts and bots. So that's probably as much to prevent that sort of game-gaming as it is protecting newbies.

Good point.

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I'm just really glad they're at least attempting to do something to thwart people's attempts at using Bloodlines for awful purposes. I didn't expect them to to ANYTHING about it--but here they are, at least making an attempt. Whether it's a feeble attempt is yet to be seen.

Should I attempt to use the word "attempt" a couple more times?

Joshua Nightshade · 03-08-2009, 06:38 AM

Considering what a pain in the ass it is and what an epicenter it is for abuse reports I'm sure they had to do something or risk finally getting the attention of a Linden on one of their infrequent "I feel like doing something today" days.

Lil Hapmouche · 03-08-2009, 09:27 AM

I'm still waiting for the "Bloodlines HUD only activates in Bloodlines-enabled regions" approach.

Rhonda Huntress · 03-08-2009, 11:12 AM

For #2, I think the concern is more for the game than the newbies. If someone is running low on health, this prevents them from generating a bunch of alts they can bite. If they have to wait 2 weeks before they can bite their alts they have to go hunting or buy an amulet to last that long.

Rhonda Huntress · 03-08-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil Hapmouche

I'm still waiting for the "Bloodlines HUD only activates in Bloodlines-enabled regions" approach.

Any vampire system that does not take into account the effects of the sun is NOT a vampire game IMHO. Vulnerability to the sun is as intrinsic as the need to drink blood. With out the sun damage, you might as well be roleplaying a tick.

Charlemagne Allen · 03-08-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhonda Huntress

Any vampire system that does not take into account the effects of the sun is NOT a vampire game IMHO. Vulnerability to the sun is as intrinsic as the need to drink blood. With out the sun damage, you might as well be roleplaying a tick.

With all due respect, the sun thing is actually quite recent; it first appeared in the 1922 film Nosferatu, which was a not-quite-legal adaptation of the Bram Stroker novel (the estate sued them for trademark violations). Bram Stroker only says that the vampires don't like the sun very much, and Dracula does walk around in daylight in London. What I haven't seen any recent adaptations touch upon is the fact that vampires have to sleep in a casket in their native soul (Dracula ships crates of soil along with his coffin) and that they can't pass over running water, except at low tide.

Of course, if you want to go back to the older sources of vampires, you could go back to the evil lesbo vampires from the 1840's: those have rather vaguely defined traits, besides the blood-drinking and a kind of hypnosis. Or you could go back to the Romanian legends: I wouldn't mind foiling a SL vampire by dropping a million tiny prims on the ground, and then watching him count each one, since they're supposed to be OCD like that. The old way to foil a vampire was to drop rice around his coffin, so he would count it all.....

But yeah, most SL vamps don't do jackshit in the way of RPing....

Tea Panhandle · 03-08-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhonda Huntress

Any vampire system that does not take into account the effects of the sun is NOT a vampire game IMHO. Vulnerability to the sun is as intrinsic as the need to drink blood. With out the sun damage, you might as well be roleplaying a tick.

Maybe they are the twinkling Twilight type

Dakota Tebaldi · 03-08-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

For #2, I heard that a good percentage of Bloodlines stuff got abused by people utilizing fake alt accounts and bots. So that's probably as much to prevent that sort of game-gaming as it is protecting newbies.

I'm more inclined to believe that it's pretty much completely to prevent "gaming" the game, and only accidentally protects newbies.

Xiomara Mendes · 03-08-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Starry Goss

With #3, renaming or adding stuff to the linkset of the fangs apparently would cause them to not work, to keep them from being modded into fake hugs that are actually bites. Didn't realize that was a problem.

Wow, I never heard this either. But I haven't had any random newbs attempt to hug me lately, so I guess the garlic necklace protects against those modifications as well.

**Sarah Nerd** · 03-08-2009, 03:26 PM

I really really like #2!! Now I can turn scripts back on at my freebie place so that people are able to use translators without being spammed with bite requests hopefully.

Summer · 03-09-2009, 05:50 PM

Siggy · 03-09-2009, 05:58 PM

So I guess my days of getting vampires to flash thier tits for blood are over

Lil Hapmouche · 03-09-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Siggy

So I guess my days of getting vampires to flash thier tits for blood are over

Why? Please do tell, it could affect my "50000L for a soul" approach.

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1 User Disagreed: Kristian

Get your pitchforks and the other things you need for a mob running riot!

... cool, there's a mob smilie ...

Beezle Warburton · 03-09-2009, 10:05 PM

None of the changes mean I won't use "burn" on them if they try to bite me :-p

EEK A VAMPIRE *FOOM*

Jahar Aabye · 03-09-2009, 10:26 PM

Our Alucard pistols have silver bullets in them that make a "hiss" sound like melting flesh when they hit an avatar

Siggy · 03-09-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil Hapmouche

Why? Please do tell, it could affect my "50000L for a soul" approach.

Get your pitchforks and the other things you need for a mob running riot!

... cool, there's a mob smilie ...

Hit me up in world and I'll drop the whole sordid notecard

03-08-2009, 05:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
Starry Goss Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bellows Falls, VT Posts: 25 SL Join Date: March 16, 2008	Interesting updates to Bloodlines HUD I noticed on the Bloodlines site that they have a recent update to their HUDs. Now it's a forced update. Numbers 2 and 3 are of interest to us. For #2, the HUD won't let them bite newbies younger than 14 days. The newbies will only be able to join by buying the HUD or waiting over 2 weeks to be bit. With #3, renaming or adding stuff to the linkset of the fangs apparently would cause them to not work, to keep them from being modded into fake hugs that are actually bites. Didn't realize that was a problem. What about newbies who didn't log in much until long after the 14 day aura of protection expired, due to needing to get better hardware or a change in interest? Were newbies in infohubs a large percentage of their influx of converts? Could they try bypassing the tamper controls by just hiding the fangs inside the av or something?

03-09-2009, 05:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Summer Princess Joyous Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Darkmere Posts: 1,668 My Mood:	__________________ Summer time is a nice time.

03-09-2009, 05:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Siggy Now with 40% more Awesome Racin' the griefers Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,037 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 31	So I guess my days of getting vampires to flash thier tits for blood are over __________________ And as it was in the beginning, so too shall it be in the end. That bullshit is bullshit, it just goes by different names.

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Beezle Warburton Senior Member Beeble Bubble Bimbo Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Darkmere Posts: 3,885 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 22 SL Join Date: October 24, 2006 Business: Cortech Enterprises	None of the changes mean I won't use "burn" on them if they try to bite me :-p EEK A VAMPIRE FOOM __________________ In SL Apez.biz

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03-08-2009, 06:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Account Closed Unedited Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 33,567 My Mood:	For #2, I heard that a good percentage of Bloodlines stuff got abused by people utilizing fake alt accounts and bots. So that's probably as much to prevent that sort of game-gaming as it is protecting newbies.

03-08-2009, 06:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Account Closed Unedited Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 33,567 My Mood:	Considering what a pain in the ass it is and what an epicenter it is for abuse reports I'm sure they had to do something or risk finally getting the attention of a Linden on one of their infrequent "I feel like doing something today" days.

03-08-2009, 09:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Lil Hapmouche Huh? See you in the ghetto! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Planet Mall Posts: 487 SL Join Date: 2007ish someday	I'm still waiting for the "Bloodlines HUD only activates in Bloodlines-enabled regions" approach.

03-08-2009, 11:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
Rhonda Huntress Adult Content Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,479 My Mood:	For #2, I think the concern is more for the game than the newbies. If someone is running low on health, this prevents them from generating a bunch of alts they can bite. If they have to wait 2 weeks before they can bite their alts they have to go hunting or buy an amulet to last that long.

03-09-2009, 10:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jahar Aabye Account Closed Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,137	Our Alucard pistols have silver bullets in them that make a "hiss" sound like melting flesh when they hit an avatar

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