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Liona Clio · 11-01-2007, 03:37 PM

I found this question very interesting in the "What is FIC?" thread, so I thought I'd conduct a scientific poll on the question.

Some people believe Second Life is simply a service provided by Linden Labs. Other people think Second Life is an actual world, with all the merits and flaws that brings with it.

What do you think, and why?

Khamon · 11-01-2007, 03:40 PM

Second Life reminds me more of a large virtual Rotary Club than a virtual world.

Pendari · 11-01-2007, 03:43 PM

I voted Yes. But I wouldn't call it a real world in the same as I would call the world a real world. Just a different real world.

Archer Braun · 11-01-2007, 03:45 PM

Second Life is the wet dream of a postmodern PT Barnum. Created by a company who wants to rule teh intarwebz, it's marketed as a game...then as a virtual world...then as a three-d web browser...then as a game platform...then as a way to make money while sitting on your ass...then as a way to fly and have magical sex with elves and donkeys...all while it's still a fucking piece of buggy beta-ware that we're all playtesting for uncle Phil for free.

The seductive, beautiful genius of this ongoing scam just makes me HARD. I'm going to go touch myself, now.

Tyche Shepherd · 11-01-2007, 03:50 PM

I voted a service, many people make a living off the service and I think its a liberating and enabling service but no "other world". ... but only because there was no option for Doll's Tea Party

...which is the closest it ever gets to another world

Sooz Pascale · 11-01-2007, 03:52 PM

Its a service.

Sooz

Khamon · 11-01-2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer Braun

Second Life is the wet dream of a postmodern PT Barnum. Created by a company who wants to rule teh intarwebz, it's marketed as a game...then as a virtual world...then as a three-d web browser...then as a game platform...then as a way to make money while sitting on your ass...then as a way to fly and have magical sex with elves and donkeys...all while it's still a fucking piece of buggy beta-ware that we're all playtesting for uncle Phil for free.

This is not even remotely true. We pay loadz to playtest this fucking piece of buggy beta-ware.

DaQbet Kish · 11-01-2007, 04:02 PM

I voted NO because in most context, it is a virtual world and not a real world. It’s easy to blur the line between the two but that’s a result of our need to place things in neat little piles for our psyche to absorb. We pick up and respond to all the cues that the real world throws out at us because some very talented and imaginative people were able to mimic those cues. Is it real? No more then the image that I see in the mirror looking back at me.
The image is real, but the mirror reflecting that image is just providing a service.

Cory Edo · 11-01-2007, 04:10 PM

Unless something I do in it sustains my actual body or consciousness, then its not a world. It can be a platform, a community, or a product, or a game, but its not a world in anything but the poetic, euphemistic sense of the term.

Cindy Claveau · 11-01-2007, 04:14 PM

It's not a real world until there are taxes, laws, a court system and police.

Until then, it's simply a service provided by LL which I pay to use.

Their world, I imagine.

Lianne Marten · 11-01-2007, 04:27 PM

It's not a real world, but real people do use it. I think that latter part gets forgotten by some people sometimes :s

Decadent · 11-01-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory Edo

Unless something I do in it sustains my actual body or consciousness, then its not a world. It can be a platform, a community, or a product, or a game, but its not a world in anything but the poetic, euphemistic sense of the term.

jacqueline trudeau · 11-01-2007, 05:02 PM

Before I vote I need to see the definition of "world"?

Archer Braun · 11-01-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khamon

This is not even remotely true. We pay loadz to playtest this fucking piece of buggy beta-ware.

My bad. I meant he get's US to do it for free.

Cindy Claveau · 11-01-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqueline trudeau

Before I vote I need to see the definition of "world"?

jacqueline trudeau · 11-01-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

hmmm.. a two dimensional abstract representation of an actual planet set within an unrealistically rendered starfield. we are getting pretty close to what SL is... or can be

Clancy Sullivan · 11-01-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liona Clio

...so I thought I'd conduct a scientific poll on the question...

Second Life is a world, it has to be. Just because you could pull the plug and stop it doesn't disqualify SL. You could just as easily turn on the Hadron Collider in this world to pull the plug.

Science FTW!

Isablan Neva · 11-01-2007, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer Braun

Second Life is the wet dream of a postmodern PT Barnum. Created by a company who wants to rule teh intarwebz, it's marketed as a game...then as a virtual world...then as a three-d web browser...then as a game platform...then as a way to make money while sitting on your ass...then as a way to fly and have magical sex with elves and donkeys...all while it's still a fucking piece of buggy beta-ware that we're all playtesting for uncle Phil for free.

The seductive, beautiful genius of this ongoing scam just makes me HARD. I'm going to go touch myself, now.

Yeah, but it still beats (pardon the pun) an average night of prime time television.....

Archer Braun · 11-01-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Isablan Neva

Yeah, but it still beats (pardon the pun) an average night of prime time television.....

But the race is more closely run when you compare it to the sticky delights of downloading amateur russian porn.

There's something about the way those middle-aged housewives groan out "yaw yaw YAW" that just presses ALL my damn buttons.

*shudders*

Jessyanne · 11-01-2007, 05:30 PM

This whole thing reminds me of the lil creatures in the Grand central station bus locker in MIBII

"K is back! The keeper of the light! All hail K! All hail K! Oh K can you see by the dawn's early light... "

Cocoanut Koala · 11-01-2007, 05:30 PM

No right vote choice there for me, quite.

I'd say it is not the world, or the real world. (no kidding)

But it is a virtual world, and a real virtual world.

The internet is not a virtual world.

WOW is a virtual world.

Amazon.com is not a virtual world.

Second Life is a virtual world.

CharterSucks cable is not a virtual world.

TSO is a virtual world.

None of them is the real world.

LL provides the virtual taxes, virtual law, and virtual police for this virtual world.

P.S. M&M's!

Khamon · 11-01-2007, 05:36 PM

They're part of the real world though Coco. Seriously, logging into Second Life is like going to church, or attending a weekly luncheon or monthly rave party. It's a lot like shopping at Walmart which entails speaking to half the people I know, browsing bookshelves, hacking a few minutes at a video game demo, actual shopping (maybe), using the ATM. None of these places or activities constitute a world; but they're all part of my real life, participating in Second Life and all.

Joshua Nightshade · 11-01-2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer Braun

Second Life is the wet dream of a postmodern PT Barnum. Created by a company who wants to rule teh intarwebz, it's marketed as a game...then as a virtual world...then as a three-d web browser...then as a game platform...then as a way to make money while sitting on your ass...then as a way to fly and have magical sex with elves and donkeys...all while it's still a fucking piece of buggy beta-ware that we're all playtesting for uncle Phil for free.

Liona, redo your poll with this as an option.

Quote:

The seductive, beautiful genius of this ongoing scam just makes me HARD. I'm going to go touch myself, now.

PIX PLS.

Archer Braun · 11-01-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

PIX PLS.

Okay. I lied. I had help.

View Poll Results: Is Second Life a Real World?
Yes, it's a real world.	9	24.32%
No, it's just a service.	24	64.86%
Hmmm, I'm not sure.	1	2.70%
Real World = PIE.	3	8.11%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

11-01-2007, 03:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Liona Clio Blinded with SCIENCE! www.girlgeniusonline.com Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,520 My Mood:	Is Second Life a Real World? I found this question very interesting in the "What is FIC?" thread, so I thought I'd conduct a scientific poll on the question. Some people believe Second Life is simply a service provided by Linden Labs. Other people think Second Life is an actual world, with all the merits and flaws that brings with it. What do you think, and why? __________________ "Well, my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle." Especially at night, I worry over situations I know will be alright. Perhaps its just my imagination. Day after day it reappears. Night after night my heartbeat, shows the fear. Ghosts appear and fade away... -Colin Hay

11-01-2007, 03:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Khamon Taco's Grammar Slave Some Flowers and Trees Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,894 SL Join Date: November, 2003 Business: Fate Gardens Flowers and Trees SLShopper Ads: 2 My Mood:	Second Life reminds me more of a large virtual Rotary Club than a virtual world. __________________ Please Visit Our Gardens and Our Website

11-01-2007, 03:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pendari Born in SL Sept 9th 2003 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Peach State Posts: 351 My Mood:	I voted Yes. But I wouldn't call it a real world in the same as I would call the world a real world. Just a different real world. __________________ Pendari Lorentz "If at first you don't succeed.... skydiving is not for you."

11-01-2007, 03:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sooz Pascale Transgendered & FUN!!!! I Can Make Your Day Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,555 My Mood:	Its a service. Sooz __________________ 5.5 on the highly scientific Troutometer scale.

11-01-2007, 03:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Archer Braun Solipsistic Megalomaniac Fingers, like fried chicken. Mmm. Tasty. Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 348 My Mood:	Second Life is the wet dream of a postmodern PT Barnum. Created by a company who wants to rule teh intarwebz, it's marketed as a game...then as a virtual world...then as a three-d web browser...then as a game platform...then as a way to make money while sitting on your ass...then as a way to fly and have magical sex with elves and donkeys...all while it's still a fucking piece of buggy beta-ware that we're all playtesting for uncle Phil for free. The seductive, beautiful genius of this ongoing scam just makes me HARD. I'm going to go touch myself, now.

11-01-2007, 03:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tyche Shepherd Fortuna vitrea est Goats ?.. fuck'em .. Let them milk themselves Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 3,974 SL Join Date: 26th April 2007 My Mood:	I voted a service, many people make a living off the service and I think its a liberating and enabling service but no "other world". ... but only because there was no option for Doll's Tea Party ...which is the closest it ever gets to another world

11-01-2007, 04:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
DaQbet Kish cautiously reckless Bad Ass Pumpkin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 649 My Mood:	I voted NO because in most context, it is a virtual world and not a real world. It’s easy to blur the line between the two but that’s a result of our need to place things in neat little piles for our psyche to absorb. We pick up and respond to all the cues that the real world throws out at us because some very talented and imaginative people were able to mimic those cues. Is it real? No more then the image that I see in the mirror looking back at me. The image is real, but the mirror reflecting that image is just providing a service. __________________ DK

11-01-2007, 04:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cory Edo funky would you rather have a Lexus or justice Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: at work Posts: 397 Blog Entries: 1 SLShopper Ads: 17	Unless something I do in it sustains my actual body or consciousness, then its not a world. It can be a platform, a community, or a product, or a game, but its not a world in anything but the poetic, euphemistic sense of the term. __________________ Trompe Loeil on SLShopper

11-01-2007, 04:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cindy Claveau Favorite color: clear What Sarah said! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,406 SL Join Date: May, 2005 My Mood: Awards: 1	It's not a real world until there are taxes, laws, a court system and police. Until then, it's simply a service provided by LL which I pay to use. Their world, I imagine.

11-01-2007, 04:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lianne Marten Cheese Baron It's a brand new day, the sun is high. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: All the birds are singing that you're gonna die. Posts: 841 SL Join Date: 5/6/2004 My Mood:	It's not a real world, but real people do use it. I think that latter part gets forgotten by some people sometimes :s __________________ I hope that whoever you are, you escape this place. I hope that the world turns and that things get better. But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you... I love you. With all my heart, I love you. -Valerie

11-01-2007, 05:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
jacqueline trudeau Openspace Abuser Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: They call it a mine, a mine! Posts: 2,449 Business: Trudeau Classic Sailing Yachts SLShopper Ads: 4 My Mood:	Before I vote I need to see the definition of "world"? __________________ Trudeau Classic Sailing Yachts

11-01-2007, 05:30 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jessyanne Senior Member Likes the smell of green Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pa Posts: 4,645 Business: Lakeside Homes	This whole thing reminds me of the lil creatures in the Grand central station bus locker in MIBII "K is back! The keeper of the light! All hail K! All hail K! Oh K can you see by the dawn's early light... " __________________ Me Picasa Albums

11-01-2007, 05:30 PM	#21 (permalink)
Cocoanut Koala Coco's Cottages There is no sanctuary. You may think there is, but there is not. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6,368 Business: Coco's Cottages SLShopper Ads: 3 Awards: 1	No right vote choice there for me, quite. I'd say it is not the world, or the real world. (no kidding) But it is a virtual world, and a real virtual world. The internet is not a virtual world. WOW is a virtual world. Amazon.com is not a virtual world. Second Life is a virtual world. CharterSucks cable is not a virtual world. TSO is a virtual world. None of them is the real world. LL provides the virtual taxes, virtual law, and virtual police for this virtual world. P.S. M&M's!

11-01-2007, 05:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
Khamon Taco's Grammar Slave Some Flowers and Trees Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,894 SL Join Date: November, 2003 Business: Fate Gardens Flowers and Trees SLShopper Ads: 2 My Mood:	They're part of the real world though Coco. Seriously, logging into Second Life is like going to church, or attending a weekly luncheon or monthly rave party. It's a lot like shopping at Walmart which entails speaking to half the people I know, browsing bookshelves, hacking a few minutes at a video game demo, actual shopping (maybe), using the ATM. None of these places or activities constitute a world; but they're all part of my real life, participating in Second Life and all.