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Old 12-20-2008, 03:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is completely ridiculous and shows obvious favoritism. This is even worse news than the Openspace announcement, in my opinion. It shows selection of whom will succeed via arbitrary means rather than by merit. Today, meritocracy dies in SL.
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I don't see any favoritism in this at all, personally, knowing the people involved with the USS.

I am, however, pretty shocked that the USS agreed to do it.
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I don't see any favoritism in this at all, personally, knowing the people involved with the USS.

I am, however, pretty shocked that the USS agreed to do it.
Favoritism: 1 : the showing of special favor : partiality

Partial: inclined to favor one party more than the other : biased

They are showing obvious special favor by selecting the private estates of the USS sims to be placed in a prime location adjacent to their own water sims, and the Nautilus sims.

If they were not biased, they would allow anyone to park their sims against mainaland, either on a first-come-first-serve basis, random selection, etc.

I put in a ticket to have my sim moved adjacent to Balance and Gibson. If they truly do not have favoritism, they will fulfill this request.
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I am not familiar with the United Sailing Sims group, however I've long believed that the Lindens do need to do more to make mainland enticing and to encourage content creation. This appears to be a move in that direction. It does bring about issues of inequity, unfortunately I cannot see a way around it at this time.

I do how that this United Sailing Sims group does provide a level of quality content and community to warrant this, and I do hope the Lindens make such overtures to other groups. Abbotts and Nexus Prime come to mind, as do a variety community groups and content creators. I suspect many excellent candidates will go overlooked for a variety of reasons, but again I cannot think of an alternative.
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Favoritism: 1 : the showing of special favor : partiality

Partial: inclined to favor one party more than the other : biased

They are showing obvious special favor by selecting the private estates of the USS sims to be placed in a prime location adjacent to their own water sims, and the Nautilus sims.

If they were not biased, they would allow anyone to park their sims against mainaland, either on a first-come-first-serve basis, random selection, etc.

I put in a ticket to have my sim moved adjacent to Balance and Gibson. If they truly do not have favoritism, they will fulfill this request.
Aminom give it up.

LL has been doing this in SL since the very start, it is not new. Just accept that LL plays favorites. LL is a human company, human's have preferences, favorites, etc.. LL reflects the preferences of its employee's in favoritism.

Getting upset about it and then trying to get equal favoritism is rather worthless.
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Favoritism: 1 : the showing of special favor : partiality

Partial: inclined to favor one party more than the other : biased

They are showing obvious special favor by selecting the private estates of the USS sims to be placed in a prime location adjacent to their own water sims, and the Nautilus sims.

If they were not biased, they would allow anyone to park their sims against mainaland, either on a first-come-first-serve basis, random selection, etc.

I put in a ticket to have my sim moved adjacent to Balance and Gibson. If they truly do not have favoritism, they will fulfill this request.
One, they're a business. They've demonstrated time and again that they are not a carbon neutral company that seeks to please all their customers, instead they very much only show interest and concern for those people who benefit them. What benefit did you outline in your ticket to compel them to think that moving your sim for you will reward them?

I couldn't even get LL to endorse a charity drive until I had shown them how many reporters and media people I had contacted to give them free press.

It's not favoritism to talk to people who're going to improve your business. It sucks for those of us not benefiting from it, but I've given up looking at LL as anything different.

Now like I said, it surprises me that the USS is doing this when a few weeks ago they were considering dropping everything because 95% of their sims are openspaces. So I am wondering what benefit they got out of this from LL.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Not really related, but are all Linden Blog posts now set not to accept comments?
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Just on the blog posts where people will say something negative about LL.
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I think that part of it is that they feel bad for shafting USS on the OpenSpace issue. Well, not specifically that they feel bad per se, but related to Josh's post, that they realize that USS was a really big thing that they almost destroyed, and it brought to their attention how badly they've failed with regards to mainland sailing places as well.

There really is nothing like the USS estate in SL. Anywhere. It's huge, it's an amazing resource. It's the type of thing that LL loves to tout as being the epitome of "your world, your imagination" and pretend like anyone can do it with a little spit and moxie (which of course we all know is rubbish, you have to be very good and very determined to put something like that together).

Is it favoritism? Maybe. But I think the bigger question is whether it's anything new, and the answer is no. I mean, wasn't that the whole point of the original Feted Inner Core?
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Favouritism it may be ... but more important it bollocks up my Surveying mainland detection routines, I'll have to give some more thought to them


... But to be honest I think this is a good move by LL and the fact that one set of estates was the first to be able to connect to mainland is neither here nor there in my book, , I'm not an SL sailor but I can see the great benefit those nautically inclined will get from this ... I just hope they also place some regions to connect up some of their own mainland (for instance there is a 1 region gap between Corsica and Gaeta )
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I think that part of it is that they feel bad for shafting USS on the OpenSpace issue. Well, not specifically that they feel bad per se, but related to Josh's post, that they realize that USS was a really big thing that they almost destroyed, and it brought to their attention how badly they've failed with regards to mainland sailing places as well.
Oh I doubt that that's anything they care about at all.

They've been trying to improve the mainland for a while, I'm sure they saw this as an opportunity to attempt that while at the same time getting those whiners to shut up.
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And they clearly don't think they failed either, if you notice that demure little "and almost all of them are Homesteads!" on the blog entry.
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Abotts already has a fantastic location. It's right beside the vechicle sandboxes.

Nexus Prime has a great location also, it's right beside the Morris Sandbox and Ahern. I dropped by Nexus Prime a lot simply because it was beside the sandbox.
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I'd never even heard of the USS until today, but I'm damn glad that Linden Labs have done this. It would have been a tragedy if the USS had disappeared completely because of the Openspace changes. Maybe Linden Lab had the commonsense to realise this. (Does Linden Labs have any common sense?) The presence of the USS next to the mainland is something that benefits residents, and improves mainland, and for once this is an action by LL that I applaud. Favouritism or no favouritism - this is something that benefits residents, so whats wrong with that?

Now I'm off to get a boat and go exploring.
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I'd never even heard of the USS until today, but I'm damn glad that Linden Labs have done this. It would have been a tragedy if the USS had disappeared completely because of the Openspace changes.
Because by all means it's better that they pay off one group they destroyed instead of reversing the price change on the rest who are still losing out.
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I am not familiar with the United Sailing Sims group, however I've long believed that the Lindens do need to do more to make mainland enticing and to encourage content creation. This appears to be a move in that direction. It does bring about issues of inequity, unfortunately I cannot see a way around it at this time.
Caledon is another one that comes to mind.
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Because by all means it's better that they pay off one group they destroyed instead of reversing the price change on the rest who are still losing out.
Because this directly benefits residents in a non-commercial way. How is this the same as someone who had a bunch of OS sims and rented them out to people who build houses and clubs and malls on them? The only beneficiary of that is the sim owner.
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First come first served is not a good way to choose who gets put beside Linden lands. I'm glad they do exercise choice in the matter.

Would you like a total POS sim butted up against Linden lands? They won't and I don't.

I expect that Linden neighbors should be showcases of neat stuff SL can do. When I was new, exploring the Linden areas and the immediate areas around was one way for me to see what nice stuff SL can be. I hope it stays that way.

That's why I say Abbotts is in a fantastic place. The people who would be interested in Abbotts (like me) would find it quickly (I did).
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The only beneficiary of that is the sim owner.
And the people renting, of course.

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Abotts already has a fantastic location. It's right beside the vechicle sandboxes.

Nexus Prime has a great location also, it's right beside the Morris Sandbox and Ahern. I dropped by Nexus Prime a lot simply because it was beside the sandbox.
I apologize for being unclear. I did not mean to say that these places should be relocated to better areas. I provided them as examples of communities that benefit SL in similar ways, and which LL could be doing more to encourage if they wish to improve SL's reputation for such activities.

Such encouragement need not be limited to financial incentives or prime mainland locations. Perhaps improvements could be made to the showcase? Certainly creation tools require improvements. I'm sure there are other good ideas as well.
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The USS are a particularly good fit because they are large, well established and have a strong theme that is PG in nature and appeals to a wide range of residents.
So it's not favoritism, but if you are not "PG" and you don't appeal to a wide range of residents, you won't be favored. Isn't that kind of the definition of favoritism?
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So it's not favoritism, but if you are not "PG" and you don't appeal to a wide range of residents, you won't be favored. Isn't that kind of the definition of favoritism?
PG ... wide range of residents?

As a criterion I like it very much.

Favoritism would be that after setting criteria you pick A over B when B has a superior case.
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