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Zorena Deckard · 12-08-2008, 10:23 PM

Imagine my delight and surprise when I stumbled across an SL fashion magazine and there on the cover was one of my hats. I grabbed an in world copy and took it home to peruse through it.

After reading the entire issue I found no mention of the hat , me or where to buy said hat. I was a little perplexed as I had assumed that they credit designers in their cover pictures.

Did I assume too much? I'm really not familar with publishing in SL and am more or less curious.

I'm leaving the magazine name out as I don't want this to be an exercise in pointing fingers. I'm just looking for some information and opinions.

Charlemagne Allen · 12-08-2008, 10:25 PM

Killjoy! You're supposed to blame the magazine for violating your copyright with a strapon and then use shadowy alts to spread rumors.

The proper thing would be to credit the creator, I would assume.

Zorena Deckard · 12-08-2008, 10:54 PM

While making this drama might get more answers. That's really not my style Chaz.

Arilynn · 12-08-2008, 11:27 PM

Zorena, if I were reading a fashion magazine, I would expect the editors to provide information about the creators of the clothing. To me, this information, along with an editorial discussion, would be the point of the magazine. Showing the clothes without giving this information seems as much as an error as posting in SLU's style thread without giving details about where a look is from. It also seems like an breach of etiquette to not give credit to the makers of the look on your cover.

Congratulations on making the cover, however. I'd love to see a pic of the hat.

Zorena Deckard · 12-08-2008, 11:40 PM

I'll post the one that's in the SL Shopper here.

**Ann Launay** · 12-08-2008, 11:40 PM

Is it a fluffy white hat?

Zorena Deckard · 12-08-2008, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Launay

Is it a fluffy white hat?

One of them yes. I posted a pic just as you asked. ^.^

Polymorphous · 12-08-2008, 11:45 PM

A gross oversight on the publishers part in the very least.

That's my opinion and I am sticking to it. I have no clue what fashion magazine protocol and etiquette might be, but I would be sad to see a cover and not get information about something I saw of interest.

Cute hat.

**Ann Launay** · 12-08-2008, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorena Deckard

One of them yes. I posted a pic just as you asked. ^.^

I just saw that.

**Ann Launay** · 12-09-2008, 12:06 AM

And that magazine doesn't look terribly professional to me.

Zorena Deckard · 12-09-2008, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Launay

And that magazine doesn't look terribly professional to me.

I'm guessing you've seen the magazine I'm talking about then. I'm really not sure any SL Magazines are professional as I have little experience with them.

**Ann Launay** · 12-09-2008, 12:20 AM

The Second Style one is usually pretty well done, and they definitely have their 'credits' ducks in a row.

Edit: Oh, and the Glam World one is very shiny and pretty.

Raindrop Drinkwater · 12-09-2008, 03:32 AM

I find it very disappointing that they didn't credit you. If I ever advertise in a magazine, it sure won't be in this one.

Joshua Nightshade · 12-09-2008, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raindrop Drinkwater

I find it very disappointing that they didn't credit you. If I ever advertise in a magazine, it sure won't be in this one.

I'd like to know which magazine, not for drama, but for this. I don't want to buy ads with people like that.

**Vertigo Paris** · 12-09-2008, 08:50 AM

Congrats to you, Zorena!

Poo on the Magazine!

**Ann Launay** · 12-09-2008, 09:37 AM

RUNWAY Magazine Blog » Blog Archive » RUNWAY December 2008 Is Published!

Zorena Deckard · 12-09-2008, 09:54 AM

Anne, I don't know whether to thank you or spank you. >.<

**Vertigo Paris** · 12-09-2008, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorena Deckard

Anne, I don't know whether to thank you or spank you. >.<

I vote for both!

Essence Lumin · 12-09-2008, 10:51 AM

YouTube - Joe Cocker You Can Leave Your Hat On

Great song, badly done video.

Iris Seale · 12-09-2008, 10:54 AM

They really should have credited you. Maybe it was an oversight? I bet if you IM the creator, they'd fix it.

Zorena Deckard · 12-09-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iris Seale

They really should have credited you. Maybe it was an oversight? I bet if you IM the creator, they'd fix it.

I think I was just more concerned on whether this was standard practice for SL based magazines. I'm honestly not in a real uproar over this. It's more like disappointment.

I may look over some back issues and see if this is how they always do things. Fixing it wouldn't be all that easy as it's already in "print" in world. I'm not very good about iming and dealing with business things but it may be best.

Ingrid N · 12-09-2008, 11:10 AM

They don't seem to be very good at crediting designers in general. I made it til the end of the Steampunk article and then checked the last few pages to see whether they credit people there (Like Glam does, which I, by the way, find extremely inconvenient

), but no, nothing.

So am I just supposed to look at the pretty pictures and go "oooh"?

Stephanie Misfit · 12-09-2008, 04:20 PM

Poor practice indeed. How the hell am I supposed to know where to shop if people don't provide credit??

Troy Vogel · 12-09-2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorena Deckard

Imagine my delight and surprise when I stumbled across an SL fashion magazine and there on the cover was one of my hats. I grabbed an in world copy and took it home to peruse through it.

After reading the entire issue I found no mention of the hat , me or where to buy said hat. I was a little perplexed as I had assumed that they credit designers in their cover pictures.

Did I assume too much? I'm really not familar with publishing in SL and am more or less curious.

I'm leaving the magazine name out as I don't want this to be an exercise in pointing fingers. I'm just looking for some information and opinions.

You should be credited. It is not something you can pursue but it may help to send a "friendly notecard" to the people in charge saying, thanks for featuring my work on your cover, it may help your readers if you listed the creators for the items you feature in your magazine.

Something like that usually does the trick and wakes them up if they made this error innocently.

Dahlia Eilde · 12-09-2008, 04:50 PM

From my experience, giving product credits is standard practice with reputable SL magazines. Bishes best recognize!

12-08-2008, 10:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Zorena Deckard Harajuku Panda Girl Is as confused as she looks. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 349 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 181 SL Join Date: June 1, 2005 Business: Ookami Ningen	Something that made me smile and frown. Imagine my delight and surprise when I stumbled across an SL fashion magazine and there on the cover was one of my hats. I grabbed an in world copy and took it home to peruse through it. After reading the entire issue I found no mention of the hat , me or where to buy said hat. I was a little perplexed as I had assumed that they credit designers in their cover pictures. Did I assume too much? I'm really not familar with publishing in SL and am more or less curious. I'm leaving the magazine name out as I don't want this to be an exercise in pointing fingers. I'm just looking for some information and opinions. __________________ http://ookaminingen.blogspot.com/ The original fur lady.

12-08-2008, 10:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
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12-08-2008, 11:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ SLU Supporter Um, er...what now? Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,907 My Mood: Addiction Solitaire Champion! SL Join Date: 8/8/06 Blog Entries: 3 XBOX Leaderboard: 38^th Awards: 1	Is it a fluffy white hat? __________________

12-08-2008, 11:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Polymorphous Perverse Projects huh? Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,073 My Mood: Frogger 3D Champion! Snowy Champion!	A gross oversight on the publishers part in the very least. That's my opinion and I am sticking to it. I have no clue what fashion magazine protocol and etiquette might be, but I would be sad to see a cover and not get information about something I saw of interest. Cute hat. __________________ -Polymorphous Projects in SL Where I've been focussed lately: http://josielamour.blogspot.com/

12-09-2008, 12:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ SLU Supporter Um, er...what now? Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,907 My Mood: Addiction Solitaire Champion! SL Join Date: 8/8/06 Blog Entries: 3 XBOX Leaderboard: 38^th Awards: 1	The Second Style one is usually pretty well done, and they definitely have their 'credits' ducks in a row. Edit: Oh, and the Glam World one is very shiny and pretty. Last edited by Ann Launay; 12-09-2008 at 12:26 AM.

12-08-2008, 10:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zorena Deckard Harajuku Panda Girl Is as confused as she looks. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 349 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 181 SL Join Date: June 1, 2005 Business: Ookami Ningen	While making this drama might get more answers. That's really not my style Chaz.

12-08-2008, 11:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Arilynn is chasing her tail Ninja of love Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5,041 SL Join Date: July 3, 2008 Business: Wandering about in a daze. Tabbing out. Blog Entries: 5 Awards: 1	Zorena, if I were reading a fashion magazine, I would expect the editors to provide information about the creators of the clothing. To me, this information, along with an editorial discussion, would be the point of the magazine. Showing the clothes without giving this information seems as much as an error as posting in SLU's style thread without giving details about where a look is from. It also seems like an breach of etiquette to not give credit to the makers of the look on your cover. Congratulations on making the cover, however. I'd love to see a pic of the hat.

12-08-2008, 11:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zorena Deckard Harajuku Panda Girl Is as confused as she looks. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 349 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 181 SL Join Date: June 1, 2005 Business: Ookami Ningen	I'll post the one that's in the SL Shopper here.

12-09-2008, 12:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ SLU Supporter Um, er...what now? Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,907 My Mood: Addiction Solitaire Champion! SL Join Date: 8/8/06 Blog Entries: 3 XBOX Leaderboard: 38^th Awards: 1	And that magazine doesn't look terribly professional to me.

12-09-2008, 09:37 AM	#16 (permalink)
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ SLU Supporter Um, er...what now? Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,907 My Mood: Addiction Solitaire Champion! SL Join Date: 8/8/06 Blog Entries: 3 XBOX Leaderboard: 38^th Awards: 1	RUNWAY Magazine Blog » Blog Archive » RUNWAY December 2008 Is Published!

12-09-2008, 09:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
Zorena Deckard Harajuku Panda Girl Is as confused as she looks. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 349 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 181 SL Join Date: June 1, 2005 Business: Ookami Ningen	Anne, I don't know whether to thank you or spank you. >.< Last edited by Zorena Deckard; 12-09-2008 at 09:59 AM. Reason: grammar

12-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#22 (permalink)
Ingrid N Undercompensating 4 ears to hear you better Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,217 My Mood: Business: liminal. Blog Entries: 1	They don't seem to be very good at crediting designers in general. I made it til the end of the Steampunk article and then checked the last few pages to see whether they credit people there (Like Glam does, which I, by the way, find extremely inconvenient ), but no, nothing. So am I just supposed to look at the pretty pictures and go "oooh"? __________________ liminal.: Skins & AOs! More fun than a subincision!

12-09-2008, 04:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
Stephanie Misfit Senior Member Lurker Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 290 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 6 SL Join Date: 05/25/06 Business: La Sylphide	Poor practice indeed. How the hell am I supposed to know where to shop if people don't provide credit??

12-09-2008, 04:50 PM	#25 (permalink)
Dahlia Eilde Dahliepop Even artichokes have hearts Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 107 My Mood: SL Join Date: May 2007	From my experience, giving product credits is standard practice with reputable SL magazines. Bishes best recognize!

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