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Old 12-01-2008, 06:33 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Don't give them any ideas about bringing that nonsense back.
Hehe if you only knew what Zoey used to do for fun.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:35 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Terrorists, illegal drugs, and pedophiles are the usual justification for pretty much anything.

I watched the film Papillon the other day. It's from 1973. I noticed that it had topless young native islander girls in it. I thought to myself that there's no way that could be in a modern film. We are in a modern Victorian age when it comes to children and sexuality. It's a regression from where we were just 30 years ago, and unhealthy in general.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:39 PM   #78 (permalink)
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The sad part is actual pedophiles often get only slap-on-the-wrist punishments.

Maybe if we were better at punishing and prosecuting the actual criminals who abuse children, our society could be less paranoid about things that are not Pedophilia.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:47 PM   #80 (permalink)
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got pics?
Wish I did , there used to be a screenshot floating around of her profile which had THOUSANDS of neg rates given.

She was kind of a prude crusader, people would actually warn you to watch out for her after they got Negged.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:59 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Colette, wow. Weird.

"Prude Crusader"? Maybe I should tell her all about my sexual escapades.

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Old 12-01-2008, 09:07 PM   #82 (permalink)
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This problem is oddly parallel to the problems with the DMCA...

Remove first, regardless of common sense, to save our ass. Ask questions later.

Unfortunately, there's no easy solution for LL's P.R. either... well, other than, you know, hiring people who you allow to use their own judgment instead of a script.

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Old 12-01-2008, 09:12 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:16 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Well, but since to being playing 'child sex' you have to have 'child', then they're half-guilty right there.

Just like 'obscene language' requires 'language', so anyone speaking or writing is an accessory to obscenity.

Speaking solely for myself, I find the very notion that I could somehow be party to obscene language to be offensive.

True, but still. Offensive!
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Wish I did , there used to be a screenshot floating around of her profile which had THOUSANDS of neg rates given.

She was kind of a prude crusader, people would actually warn you to watch out for her after they got Negged.
She wanted LL to ban sex altogether in SL, and made all sorts of wild assumptions about anyone who pushed back against her notions.

Those threads were some epic flamewars, back in '04/'05

Did I mention that she had a penis shaped shop once? Yeah, she whined about it when LL took action because it could be seen from a PG sim.

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Colette, wow. Weird.

"Prude Crusader"? Maybe I should tell her all about my sexual escapades.

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Can you tell me first?

Better yet, how about a live re-enactment?



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Old 12-02-2008, 08:51 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Can you tell me first?

Better yet, how about a live re-enactment?



If you insist.

*gets out the rubber gloves and whips*

Strip.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:14 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I'm just so at a loss. The wording of the message seems to be word-for-word what I got when I was ARed during the blitz build. It reads like it was copy-pasted from the old blog entry. I'm not sure what actions Robin has taken, but, in my own event I had to re-open the issue and do a lot of footwork with the Lindens to make sense of things. Finally I posed my challenge as a question... I guess I can get away with exact wording here as opposed to the official forum:

"What part of my chat conversation, behaviour, appearance, activity, environment, or surrounding company could have been perceived to involve ageplay to the degree that justified a one hour suspension of my account?

In addition... Was the abuse report against me investigated at all prior to my suspension from the grid?"


My guess is that my approach of networking and requiring an explanation was enough for them to actually review their said policies with enough critique to respond with this:

"Hi there,

Linden Lab has reviewed, at your request, a discipline action recently taken against your account.
Our investigation shows that the discipline may have been applied in error; we apologize for the mistake. We have also noted the correction in our records for your account.
If any further information is required, Linden Lab will contact you regarding this incident. Otherwise, please consider the matter resolved as no further communications will be sent.
Best wishes, and again, our apologies,
Linden Lab and the Second Life Community team"

Mind you, I got the Email during my attendance of the Gteam office hours and at the moment. In addition, this was also the result of re-opening the ticket. The first response I got was much more generic and frankly ignorant of my initial concerns.

This is probably my selfish side. But, a situation like this is not something I'd like to see quietly [Resolved]. I'm sure a few people here remember seeing my thread on the official forums that did obviously violate forum guidelines, but, still offered the publicity needed to see that it was the start of something going greatly wrong.

Mari, I hope that Robin and you have the resources and energy to fight this and expose this effing ridiculous move that LL has made. Ask questions. Try to get information (even in vain) as to how many ARs were actually targeted at the vendors in question. Have the content reviewed ad-nauseum and in public form to get a context of how they could even be possibly offensive in the first place.

I know and I'm fully aware that I'm a person of reasonable obscenity and perversion. I also know that it doesn't take much to see the good in people. Mari, Robin, Second Life Children, and the Livingtree sim are all very good and positive assets to SL as a whole. To see people and places like this under attack is truely and purely shameful.
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If you insist.

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Strip.


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Plot thickens: The other person who had one returned did go through appeal, and the decision stood. It was reviewed by a long-time Linden Lab staff member from the UK form the GTeam.
I'm not clear whether "appeal" and "review" would have been prior to Immy's "re-opening" her ticket, or if one has to "re-open" a ticket in order to get it reviewed. That is, I'm wondering whether there's a further step in the standard process for the other person, after the initial appeal proved unsuccessful.

There's always a next step; the question is whether to follow the defined path--if there is one--or to try an end-run. Or, I suppose, to write it off as a loss, but in this case there's quite a lot at stake: there aren't that many losses between where G-Team is now and a total ban on child AVs.
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She wanted LL to ban sex altogether in SL, and made all sorts of wild assumptions about anyone who pushed back against her notions.

Those threads were some epic flamewars, back in '04/'05

Did I mention that she had a penis shaped shop once? Yeah, she whined about it when LL took action because it could be seen from a PG sim.

LOL I remember.

A friend of mine she neg rated for forgetting her panties (she always wore system skirts) at the Shelter.

Now .. what Zoey was doing camming up her skirt to see if she had panties on .. Ill never know.


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I remember the penis shaped Shop from perusing the old forum archives, a hilarious bit of irony.

Leads to the question ..

Trolling aside, how do you actually feel about Sex in SL, Zoey?
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:07 PM   #96 (permalink)
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LOL I remember.

A friend of mine she neg rated for forgetting her panties (she always wore system skirts) at the Shelter.

Now .. what Zoey was doing camming up her skirt to see if she had panties on .. Ill never know.


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I remember the penis shaped Shop from perusing the old forum archives, a hilarious bit of irony.

Leads to the question ..

Trolling aside, how do you actually feel about Sex in SL, Zoey?

Probably about the same way Mrs Lincoln felt about "Our American Cousins"
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As an aside, Marianne, when is Robin going to join SLU?
I think she is, but she's usually too busy to keep up on forums.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:15 PM   #99 (permalink)
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"Please update your vendors so any child-like avatars are fully clothed."
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