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Old 11-20-2008, 04:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why is a notecard less intrusive than a PM?

Tonight was the first time I've really looked into how to create a notecard. I found out how to do it from this:


I was never able to find the option for it before because people always refer to it as a "notecard", not just a "note", which is what it is that you create when you create a notecard.

My question is this: Why is a notecard less intrusive than a PM? Why do many content creators only accept notecards? I ask this because I honestly do not know at all.

The part that is confusing about it is this: If people are buying things because they don't want to create content, doesn't it seem weird to require that people create content in order to ask the person you bought something from a question?

I do not understand. I'm sure there is a logical reason for this, but I don't know what it is yet.
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My question is this: Why is a notecard less intrusive than a PM? Why do many content creators only accept notecards? I ask this because I honestly do not know at all.
I guess with PM you mean an IM :>

Well, the reason is simple. If you send a creator a notecard instead of an IM, they can handle whatever they determine more urgent at first after login, keeping the notecard in their inventory to look at it later.

They don't need to keep the tab open in the comms window to keep the text, they don't need to paste it anywhere, and if they crash, they don't lose it. Sure, they could just log all IMs, but that'd also mean searching the logs.

Hope that helps :>

If it helps, think about it this way:

IMs - instant messenger like yahoo, aim, skype, msn
notecards - email
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Okay, I guess it's a DUH! sort of thing. Sometimes I don't see the obvious.

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EDIT: I also don't know much about notecards because for me they're usually "those annoying things" that find themselves in a folder I never look at that I receive hundreds of just from teleporting to places as I explore. I guess maybe I should pay more attention. LOL
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My question is this: Why is a notecard less intrusive than a PM? Why do many content creators only accept notecards? I ask this because I honestly do not know at all.
The other thing is that, unless your offline IMs go to email, if your IMs get capped, that's it. You won't get any that are sent after they capped. Inventory offers, however, don't get capped.

Now, my offline IMs do go to email, and I vastly prefer getting them over notecards. Fishing the damn thing out of my inventory and then starting a new IM session vs. replying to an existing session? IMs win every time. I've even got a note in my profile saying I prefer IMs, not that anybody seems to read it.
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... I receive hundreds of just from teleporting to places as I explore. I guess maybe I should pay more attention. LOL
I guess you should deactivate "automatically accept" in Preferences > Popups
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I guess you should deactivate "automatically accept" in Preferences > Popups
I wish for a "temporarily read" option LOL
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I wish for a "temporarily read" option LOL
Accept the notecard, then delete it.
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Accept the notecard, then delete it.
I know--I was being silly
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There's nothing more disheartening than logging into SL to find the client pinging at you like a madcow with tens of IM tabs opening each flashing and begging for your attention. It makes me want to go out and buy a pistol and end it. Yes extreme but this is how I feel.

Whereas, with Notecards, they just get filed away and I get to look at them when I have time or after I have spent the first 5 minutes dealing with what I logged into to take care of like replacing an item for a customer.

This is why I hate Torley's videos, they all have that awful sound at the beginning of the videos -- for someone that has an intolerance to sound he surely knows how to come up with very annoying sounds and also epileptic seizure inducing colors and editing. But hey that's a whole other thread of "I do not get Torley...".

Also I keep hearing that IMs get capped at some point if someone receives too many offline IMs so notecards are a sure way to get your message across.

So please send notecards. Please.
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For the love of god please to stop sending me notecards!!! Just IM me... my IMs go to gmail, they are stored forever in the big google cloud. I can reply and see them all as "conversations". Notecards mean I have to log in! And most people cannot log in from work!

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For the love of god please to stop sending me notecards!!! Just IM me... my IMs go to gmail, they are stored forever in the big google cloud. I can reply and see them all as "conversations". Notecards mean I have to log in! And most people cannot log in from work!

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Well there's that... I wish Notecards were forwarded to e mail....

yes my IMs go to e mail as well, and I do respond them from gmail but meh... I dunno I still like notecards...
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Well there's that... I wish Notecards were forwarded to e mail....

yes my IMs go to e mail as well, and I do respond them from gmail but meh... I dunno I still like notecards...
Don't make me start a bunch of nasty threads and get banned for a week. See it my way or else!!!

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I have to agree with the notecard thing. The chorus of ping ping ping ping!!!! <Too Many IMs, messages capped> happens to me anytime I'm off SL for more than 12 hours or so.

The one aside, if you see "so and so has accepted your inventory offer", it means that they have probably logged on and will take a peek at it when they can. It does not mean one ought immediately IM them, then repeat the IMs with increasing hostility/sulkiness/both until the recipient has to stop what she logged on to do with the less than one hour she has before going to work, just to pay attention to your complaints that she isn't dropping all her current projects to take a commission from you to build something that isn't even vaguely like anything else she makes. By the time she mutes you, she will be far too annoyed to get any work done, and so cross that she snaps at her puppy, who turns on the sad eyes, and then she has to deal with the ensuing guilt all day.

Um. That was something of a random example.
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There's nothing more disheartening than logging into SL to find the client pinging at you like a madcow with tens of IM tabs opening each flashing and begging for your attention. It makes me want to go out and buy a pistol and end it. Yes extreme but this is how I feel.

Whereas, with Notecards, they just get filed away and I get to look at them when I have time or after I have spent the first 5 minutes dealing with what I logged into to take care of like replacing an item for a customer.

This is why I hate Torley's videos, they all have that awful sound at the beginning of the videos -- for someone that has an intolerance to sound he surely knows how to come up with very annoying sounds and also epileptic seizure inducing colors and editing. But hey that's a whole other thread of "I do not get Torley...".

Also I keep hearing that IMs get capped at some point if someone receives too many offline IMs so notecards are a sure way to get your message across.

So please send notecards. Please.
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Do you know what would be great? An ability to turn on/off receiving specific item types or IMs when not online. And setting automatic replies if IMs are off.
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Well there's that... I wish Notecards were forwarded to e mail....

yes my IMs go to e mail as well, and I do respond them from gmail but meh... I dunno I still like notecards...
Can't search notecards.
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Can't search notecards.
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My question is this: Why is a notecard less intrusive than a PM? Why do many content creators only accept notecards? I ask this because I honestly do not know at all.

The part that is confusing about it is this: If people are buying things because they don't want to create content, doesn't it seem weird to require that people create content in order to ask the person you bought something from a question?

I do not understand. I'm sure there is a logical reason for this, but I don't know what it is yet.
Offline inventory transfers have been traditionally more reliable than offline IMs. It's less likely that a "notecard" will be lost than an IM.

In my profile, I ask the following:
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What to do if SL eats your trasaction: send me a notecard with the transaction number, date, time, item you were trying to purchase, and the amount you paid. THEN, IM WITH THE SAME INFO!

Sometimes notecards won't open! And IMs get capped. PLEASE use both!

If I can match the data you send me, with the data I have, I'll do w
(looks like I have a little cleanup to do, the "what I can" got cut off)

The idea behind this request, is that if the IM fails to be transferred due to some weird "presence" glitch, the notecard will still be sent. Likewise, if the notecard offer gets lost in a bad login, the IM has a good chance of having gone to my email. Basically the chances of BOTH systems failing is far less likely than either one failing.
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I request that people both IM and notecard me.

Offline IMs haven't been reliable for several months. Most people don't notice this, but seriously- they don't always go through. I frequently have conversations with people who are in-world when I'm at work, so we talk via offline IMs, and sometimes folks simply do not get random messages, and I don't get theirs.

It USED to be that offline item drops were much more reliable than offline IM. Not so much anymore. In the past few weeks I've had several documented cases where the person got my offline IM but the accompanying notecard I sent them was nowhere to be found.

The reliability for offline communication, from best to worst, these days is:
- Notecards
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I usually send a one line IM, like: Hey, I have a problem with item X, I put the details in a notecard I'm sending you.

And then the notecard.

I assume always at least one of the two arrives.
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