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**Vertigo Paris** · 09-24-2008, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosie Barthelmess

PS: HI Verti, I sees you in here.

Shhhh! I'm shy.

Yeah, even I couldn't let that go without laughing my ass off. Thanks to Decadent for the smiley!

**Io Zeno** · 09-24-2008, 01:33 PM

Lila, you stepped into a drama bomb and someone blew up at you, mostly for reasons that had nothing to do with your question.

The post you just made is why people become annoyed at you.

Rosie Barthelmess · 09-24-2008, 01:36 PM

As a lesson, I would recommend:

1) Don't make posts like Lila just made
2) Don't make posts like Lila just made
and
3) Don't make posts like Lila just made.

Also. To Ingrid, although I'm too lazy to go back and quote you here:

I think it's interesting that you use the words "hatred" and other tasty hot and bubbly verbs to describe what can go on around here. I've been in the middle of the shitstorm, as has my partner, but I don't think I've ever felt hatred for anyone here, really. Can't speak for anybody but myself.

What I do find, honestly, is that there's a small group of people who tend to err on the side of being antagonistic and negative, harshly blunt, and antisocial in the name of being honest or true to themselves, and they seem to be the ones who end up in the midst of conflict a lot.

I guess I figure if you're going to be all "I don't really give a flying fuck what you think about me anyway," then you really don't have any excuse for carrying around a lot of bubbling, seething hatred if someone disagrees with you or gets into some kind of brawl with you on the forum. Folks can't really have it both ways -- either you honestly don't give a fuck what anyone thinks and you're going to stand by your guns because that's what's important to you, in which case other people antagonizing you (or antagonizing you BACK) will just sort of roll off your back and you won't rightly care -- or, you DO give a fuck what other people think of you and you hold on to seething hatred and bubbling rage because you're secretly or not-so-secretly butthurt and you wish people either liked you more or gave more credence to what you have to say.

I saw someone once here on SLU describe our dynamic as akin to a neighborhood bar. You may not be best buddies with everyone in the bar, and you might even get in fights with 'em from time to time, but when someone's battery dies in the parking lot you'd give them a lift home.

That analogy always worked for me.

**Beebo Brink** · 09-24-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lila

I definately think that ppl get different treatment here.

The incredible insensitivity of your post may be one reason you are not being accepted by this community. You have very poor judgment.

Frankly, I didn't really know you before. I do now. And what I know is not very flattering.

Ingrid · 09-24-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Lila, you stepped into a drama bomb and someone blew up at you, mostly for reasons that had nothing to do with your question.

The post you just made is why people become annoyed at you.

Since when is asking a simple question a "drama bomb"?

Ned Easterwood · 09-24-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mereille

When I first joined a year ago, (a year!

) I felt very intimidated as well. After a few posts, I lurked for most of that time. Usually, someone would have said what I wanted to already, and said it better than I could have.

I still feel like an outsider for the most part. Except in the politics forum.

I keep telling you - post somewhere else for once!!!!!!

Shee - just like RL - women never listen.

Lila · 09-24-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Lila, you stepped into a drama bomb and someone blew up at you, mostly for reasons that had nothing to do with your question.

The post you just made is why people become annoyed at you.

I posted that because I really felt bullied and no one cared. I never did what Vertigo accused me of, but I'm never allowed to defend myself. I didn't accuse Cris and I wasn't trying to get anyone to talk about Josh. Instead I said exactly the same thing that Brenda did, but she didn't get attacked. Why is everything I do wrong? And what Vertigo does just right? Maybe someone can explain that to me

Lila · 09-24-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebo Brink

The incredible insensitivity of your post may be one reason you are not being accepted by this community. You have very poor judgment.

Frankly, I didn't really know you before. I do now. And what I know is not very flattering.

Then explain to me, what did I do wrong?

**Io Zeno** · 09-24-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingrid

Since when is asking a simple question a "drama bomb"?

When it involves what she was posting about, after she was asked to drop it by just about everyone.

Yes, she got heat for shit that had nothing to do with her and mostly to do with ongoing drama behind the scenes after a very nasty public display.

I do also believe it was apologized for.

**Vertigo Paris** · 09-24-2008, 01:40 PM

Lila, you are out because you want to be out. You have stated multiple times now that you don't belong here and that no one likes you despite people being very vocal to the contrary.

You started to push back and I was genuinely surprised and happy to see it, it meant you had taken previous critiques and applied them. Then you started with the emotional manipulation and that just doesn't fly with some people.

Having said that, I was in a sore mood that day and I did fly off the handle, I could have handled that situation completely differently and for that, I apologize.

Lila · 09-24-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosie Barthelmess

As a lesson, I would recommend:

1) Don't make posts like Lila just made
2) Don't make posts like Lila just made
and
3) Don't make posts like Lila just made.

And what was wrong? That I didn't just kept quiet and accepted me being the bullied one?

Lila · 09-24-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertigo Paris

Lila, you are out because you want to be out. You have stated multiple times now that you don't belong here and that no one likes you despite people being very vocal to the contrary.

You started to push back and I was genuinely surprised and happy to see it, it meant you had taken previous critiques and applied them. Then you started with the emotional manipulation and that just doesn't fly with some people.

Having said that, I was in a sore mood that day and I did fly of the handle, I could have handled that situation completely differently and for that, I apologize.

You have no idea how I cried after that. And what I tried to explain to you then and in my post now is that I felt I was treated much different to others in that thread. You misunderstood what I said and didn't want to listen to my explanations

But now I feel that I have said my part. I have gotten the opportunity to explain myself. I will stand back now. You won. You all won.

**Vivianne Draper** · 09-24-2008, 01:43 PM

I, too, started a thread asking where Joshua was. I found out quickly that he had been banned and posted an apology in the thread, PM'd Cris with an apology and, complying with many people's request that it remain private, dropped the subject.

You insinuated that this wasn't a good forum because Cris asked that it remain private. Then when Verti, who never blows up, blew up at Collette, Collette immediately apologized and so did Verti. You, however, decided to press the issue. Then you decided to press the issue again.

This has nothing to do with being a clique. It has to do with the fact that others decided to apologize and drop the issue and you decided to press the issue.

Rosie Barthelmess · 09-24-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

And what was wrong? That I didn't just kept quiet and accepted me being the bullied one?

No, maybe that you're coming into a thread that had nothing to do with you and trying to make it all about how you were victimized?

I dunno, I just think that's not too cool.

**Io Zeno** · 09-24-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

And what was wrong? That I didn't just kept quiet and accepted me being the bullied one?

No, because you are acting like a jerk. Because you are looking for crosses to crawl up on. Because you are getting on people's nerves.

You ask a question. People blow up at you. You are rightly shocked. It is eventually explained that this is a kind of painful incident that the people involved would rather you drop, Josh is gone, no you aren't getting details, please just leave it, sorry for the explosion.

Then you come back and copy paste the whole thing all over again for what? You think this is going to make people feel sorry for you or treat you like the emo whiner you are acting like? Grow up.

Lila · 09-24-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Io Zeno

When it involves what she was posting about, after she was asked to drop it by just about everyone.

Yes, she got heat for shit that had nothing to do with her and mostly to do with ongoing drama behind the scenes after a very nasty public display.

I do also believe it was apologized for.

I was accused of things I hadn't said. Why should I keep quiet? I didn't, and I repeat didn't want Cris to explain what happened with Josh, but no one bothered to listen to me what I actually was saying

**Vivianne Draper** · 09-24-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

And what was wrong? That I didn't just kept quiet and accepted me being the bullied one?

You weren't bullied. You decided to press an issue. YOU ARE STILL PRESSING IT.

Ingrid · 09-24-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Then you come back and copy paste the whole thing all over again for what?

I thought it was pretty relevant actually.

**Vertigo Paris** · 09-24-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

I will stand back now. You won. You all won.

The prosecution rests, your Honor.

**Io Zeno** · 09-24-2008, 01:47 PM

No, she wants people to feel sorry for her because people took out their frustration over an issue on her.

They are sorry. Move the fuck on. This isn't relevant, it's a personal axe.

Ingrid · 09-24-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivianne Draper

YOU ARE STILL PRESSING IT.

NO, she's offering it up as an example of how there's bias here.

Rosie Barthelmess · 09-24-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertigo Paris

The prosecution rests, your Honor.

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

YOU'RE GODDAMNED RIGHT I DID!

Did I miss anything?

Lila · 09-24-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Io Zeno

You ask a question. People blow up at you. You are rightly shocked. It is eventually explained that this is a kind of painful incident that the people involved would rather you drop, Josh is gone, no you aren't getting details, please just leave it, sorry for the explosion.

Then you come back and copy paste the whole thing all over again for what? You think this is going to make people feel sorry for you or treat you like the emo whiner you are acting like? Grow up.

I never wanted to have any insight about what happened to Josh, read what I'm saying. I never asked that. Stop saying I did.

Dirk Talamasca · 09-24-2008, 01:47 PM

What a fun thread! Way to go, Del!

**Io Zeno** · 09-24-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

I never wanted to have any insight about what happened to Josh, read what I'm saying. I never asked that. Stop saying I did.

No, now you just want to crawl up on a cross and act like you have been forum raped over something most have ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR.

09-24-2008, 01:36 PM	#53 (permalink)
Rosie Barthelmess LoD Mgr and Joolry Maker Persona non grata Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central US Posts: 1,635 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 9 SL Join Date: May 6, 2007 Business: Sable Rose Jewelry/Lounge Of Dreams	As a lesson, I would recommend: 1) Don't make posts like Lila just made 2) Don't make posts like Lila just made and 3) Don't make posts like Lila just made. Also. To Ingrid, although I'm too lazy to go back and quote you here: I think it's interesting that you use the words "hatred" and other tasty hot and bubbly verbs to describe what can go on around here. I've been in the middle of the shitstorm, as has my partner, but I don't think I've ever felt hatred for anyone here, really. Can't speak for anybody but myself. What I do find, honestly, is that there's a small group of people who tend to err on the side of being antagonistic and negative, harshly blunt, and antisocial in the name of being honest or true to themselves, and they seem to be the ones who end up in the midst of conflict a lot. I guess I figure if you're going to be all "I don't really give a flying fuck what you think about me anyway," then you really don't have any excuse for carrying around a lot of bubbling, seething hatred if someone disagrees with you or gets into some kind of brawl with you on the forum. Folks can't really have it both ways -- either you honestly don't give a fuck what anyone thinks and you're going to stand by your guns because that's what's important to you, in which case other people antagonizing you (or antagonizing you BACK) will just sort of roll off your back and you won't rightly care -- or, you DO give a fuck what other people think of you and you hold on to seething hatred and bubbling rage because you're secretly or not-so-secretly butthurt and you wish people either liked you more or gave more credence to what you have to say. I saw someone once here on SLU describe our dynamic as akin to a neighborhood bar. You may not be best buddies with everyone in the bar, and you might even get in fights with 'em from time to time, but when someone's battery dies in the parking lot you'd give them a lift home. That analogy always worked for me. __________________ Owner/Designer, Sable Rose Jewelry Gallinas (near The Shelter): http://slurl.com/secondlife/Gallinas/198/11/59 Filataponic @ Subtle Submission: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Filataponic/209/198/50 Manager & House DJ, Lounge of Dreams http://skatoolaki.com/sablerose -- Sable Rose Jewelry's blog. http://rosiebarthelmess.com-- my blog. Trout Rated: 7.0 "You are evidence that a woman who is comfortable in her own skin has a definite advantage over those who are not." Last edited by Rosie Barthelmess; 09-24-2008 at 01:41 PM.

09-24-2008, 01:43 PM	#63 (permalink)
Vivianne Draper witly verbiage hear SLU Supporter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DC Area Posts: 4,489 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: September 11, 2005 Blog Entries: 1	I, too, started a thread asking where Joshua was. I found out quickly that he had been banned and posted an apology in the thread, PM'd Cris with an apology and, complying with many people's request that it remain private, dropped the subject. You insinuated that this wasn't a good forum because Cris asked that it remain private. Then when Verti, who never blows up, blew up at Collette, Collette immediately apologized and so did Verti. You, however, decided to press the issue. Then you decided to press the issue again. This has nothing to do with being a clique. It has to do with the fact that others decided to apologize and drop the issue and you decided to press the issue. __________________ ~~~~~

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09-24-2008, 01:33 PM	#52 (permalink)
Io Zeno Gone SLU Supporter Stoking the fires of Hell Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 17,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Awards: 1	Lila, you stepped into a drama bomb and someone blew up at you, mostly for reasons that had nothing to do with your question. The post you just made is why people become annoyed at you.

09-24-2008, 01:40 PM	#60 (permalink)
Vertigo Paris is fiesty! SLU Supporter Now hiring minions Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Displaced Bostonian living in a weather confused Texas Posts: 8,906 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: 11/22/2006 Blog Entries: 1 XBOX Leaderboard: 40^th	Lila, you are out because you want to be out. You have stated multiple times now that you don't belong here and that no one likes you despite people being very vocal to the contrary. You started to push back and I was genuinely surprised and happy to see it, it meant you had taken previous critiques and applied them. Then you started with the emotional manipulation and that just doesn't fly with some people. Having said that, I was in a sore mood that day and I did fly off the handle, I could have handled that situation completely differently and for that, I apologize.

09-24-2008, 01:47 PM	#70 (permalink)
Io Zeno Gone SLU Supporter Stoking the fires of Hell Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 17,021 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Awards: 1	No, she wants people to feel sorry for her because people took out their frustration over an issue on her. They are sorry. Move the fuck on. This isn't relevant, it's a personal axe.

09-24-2008, 01:47 PM	#74 (permalink)
Dirk Talamasca Member Lullin' at yer damn dirty cat Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 93 My Mood: SL Join Date: 10-5-2005 Business: Land, Orientation Station, Resident Tutorials and Training	What a fun thread! Way to go, Del!

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