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Daman · 08-03-2008, 05:47 PM

In videogames I always play as a female. I usually prefer to play in 3rd person mode - and if I have to stare at ass through 40 hours of gameplay, I prefer it to be female ass.

SL is the exception I guess. Male/Male for me here. I had a female alt, but I only used her to try out a bunch of female stuff and I stopped doing that as the quality and amount of men's stuff has been improving slowly but steadily.

Lo Jacobs · 08-03-2008, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

I am sorry. I'll just be quiet and wait until I know what's OK and what's not, in this forum.

Oh please. If everybody restricted their comments to the weather when they couldn't think of anything uncontroversial to say, this would be the weather channel.

Lila · 08-03-2008, 05:58 PM

Smiling

I just should have waited a while. This is my first day here. Don't want to start a small war on my first day

Ingrid N. · 08-03-2008, 06:01 PM

If you consider this a small war you're in a for a surprise

This is just regular sunday night pseudodrama while the big hitters get ready to descend upon the politics forum the next time a thread with the words "abortions" "Obama" or "racism" gets posted

.

Lila · 08-03-2008, 06:02 PM

Oh I didn't think this was a small war ... yet

but I was afraid it was coming because of the warnings I got.

Talon Lardner · 08-03-2008, 06:15 PM

I tend to be one of those folk who switch my avatar's gender from time to time, but never out of desire to trick someone or stuff like that, it's merely to just check out different looks and different clothes.

Vaelissa Cortes · 08-03-2008, 06:51 PM

I'm female and have a female avatar in SL and all other places that let me have the choice. I haven't had the desire to be male, and when I wanted to make a properly proportioned male shape for a freebie to hand out, I logged on an alt to do it since I didn't want that on "me".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verkin Raven

Some games, like Oblivion (or Fallout 1/2), pin specific gameplay mechanics on genders, so I would go with what I'd have the most fun with, instead of what may look the best in vanity mode.

In Oblivion it mostly just seems to be a difference of what the NPCs call you from what I've seen, I can't speak for the Fallout series though. Yes, I know I nit pick

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

Smiling

I just should have waited a while. This is my first day here. Don't want to start a small war on my first day

It's ok! At least you didn't say you needed the results for a paper you're writing, that never goes over well here. Anyway, welcome to SLU!

Lila · 08-03-2008, 06:53 PM

LOL, no, I'm not writing any paper, but I am a curious person. So tell me to butt out if I'm too nosy

And thanks everyone to the warm welcome I've got from you all

Daman · 08-03-2008, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaelissa Cortes

In Oblivion it mostly just seems to be a difference of what the NPCs call you from what I've seen, I can't speak for the Fallout series though. Yes, I know I nit pick

In Oblivion there's also stat differences. Male and female versions of the same race have different starting stats. Regardless, IMO those differences are negligible over the full run of the game.

Izzy · 08-03-2008, 07:12 PM

I have a female av in sl and am female in real life, when signing up it didn't dawn on me to do any different, but a few months later a friend and I were chatting ( a male friend) about the lack of quality freebies that males can find compared to some of the amazing freebies women can get. So I signed up a male alt and was given a challenge of sorts to come up with a not so noobish look.. without spending a linden.
I managed to do it ok, there is a lot of rubbish freebies out there... but it was fun. I use my male alt for photographing male clothes now, I don't so much use it for socialising as such.

Circle Widdershins · 08-03-2008, 07:27 PM

I'm female in rl and have a female main avvie, and my alt is a girl too. I do put a male shape on my alt when building male jewlery. I have problems wearing a male shape on my main. It just seems wrong for her, to me.

I found, a bit to my surprise in the beginning of my sl life, that I got emotionally attached to my main avvie very, very quickly.

That's why I spend a Linden fortune trying to make her look pretteh

Aki Shichiroji · 08-03-2008, 07:41 PM

I am female and spend the bulk of my time on a female av.

At some point some time after I first joined SL, during a point in my experience when I didn't feel like getting hit on by guys at the club i was going to, I chose to try something different and created a guy av. The result was a much quieter existence in which to create stuff.

Even so, a lot of what I wanted to make I wanted to sell under my main account, so I elected to just isolate myself in a sandbox to make things rather than cut off my friends' list completely.

The guy alt now only really sees the light of day on the rare occasions I have something that needs to be sized on a guy av.

Decadent · 08-03-2008, 07:44 PM

I have a male alt that I created to see how differently some of the people I worked with would interact with a male, and never logged him in afterward. Quimby's av also counts as an alt, since I spend way more time tinkering around with him than he does.

Otherwise, Deca's as female as they come (even though I dress her like, and act like, a boy sometimes).

Aisuru Rieko · 08-03-2008, 07:57 PM

female/female.

I do have a male alt, but I confess I really only have him to play dress-up with.

Richie Waves · 08-03-2008, 07:58 PM

used to be whatever.. a bee once! and a tiny little duck, mostly a Girl though!

Sarah Nerd · 08-03-2008, 09:28 PM

Female in RL with a female avi that is everything I wish I could be in rl. I also have a guy avi I created for the sole purpose of messaging some girl I had issues a long time ago so I could im her and tell her that I heard she was a real easy lay in sl and I wanted a piece. He's turned out to be very handy for modeling male items for me.

Sooz Pascale · 08-04-2008, 03:06 AM

This topic has been a real minefield in the past. However, there is no need for another war over what seems to be an innocent inquiry from someone who appears to be a nice person.

[sigh] Let me see if I can de-fuse part of the mine field.

I came "out" in another forum some time ago and confessed that I am not a "real" woman in RL. I wish I hadn't, but that is another topic.

I am transgendered in RL, basically, although physically male, my brain seems to be more female than male. I do not believe it would be an intelligent decision, at this stage of my life, to "transition" from male to female by taking hormones, living and working as a woman, and eventually getting "THE SURGERY." So, I make do by cross dressing whenever possible and going out in RL dressed as a woman to night clubs, lunches dinners and shopping.

SL was a way for me to be female here. Of course my self outing pretty much ruined that in some respects. Many if not most of my female friends in SL, including the ladies in this forum basically treat me like one of the girls and if they believe I am different, they are polite enough and considerate enough not to let me know.

Of course, except for a couple of brief flings, I am pretty much "untouchable" in the romance department.

Several other cross gendered avatars have confided in me, and I won't betray their confidences. I will say that people change genders in SL for a variety of reasons, few of them sinister.

I hope this helps answer part of your question.

Sooz

Karl Herber · 08-04-2008, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lila

Ok, to make it up to you all for stepping into something

I'll post a pic of my male alt. Can you tell it's a girl that created him? Yes I have a female main account and I'm female in RL.

Everyone meet Oskar, isn't he a hunk

?

Oh he is delicious. Although it's difficult to tell from just a picture, a lot of it is the way they behave and talk. I have sometimes wondered about some of the guys that hang around in the gay clubs I attend, that maybe they have women at the keyboard. I know of at least three for certain. Although it doesn't really matter that much to me - the friendships continued although the nature of the friendship changed a little (I tend to be more polite when I'm with women, and stop with all the lewd comments and chatup lines.)

Lo Jacobs · 08-04-2008, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooz Pascale

I am transgendered in RL, basically, although physically male, my brain seems to be more female than male.

This is one of the reasons I love SL -- it really helps people be whoever they want to be, in whatever limited way, even the much-maligned furries.

Karl Herber · 08-04-2008, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooz Pascale

I am transgendered in RL, basically, although physically male, my brain seems to be more female than male. ...
...SL was a way for me to be female here. Of course my self outing pretty much ruined that in some respects.

That takes some courage to admit. One of the guys I know (who has since left SL for reasons unconnected with gender or relationships) is transgendered female to male, and for him, SL was a way to express that. I never considered him to be anything but male.

RandoymRandt · 08-04-2008, 03:52 AM

Well, and I hope this helps some folks out there, it reminds me of an article I've been meaning to post:

FEMALE bisexuality has been found to be a sexual orientation itself and not an experimental or transitional stage "on the way" to lesbianism.

The study, published by the American Psychological Association, of 79 non-heterosexual women over 10 years found that bisexual women maintained a stable pattern of attraction to both sexes.

Aside from this, the research overthrows the myth that bisexual women are uninterested in or unable to commit to long-term monogamous relationships.

"This research provides the first empirical examination of competing assumptions about the nature of bisexuality, both as a sexual identity label and as a pattern of nonexclusive sexual attraction and behaviour," wrote University of Utah psychologist Dr Lisa M. Diamond, who conducted the study. "

Diamond used interview data collected five times over a decade from 79 women who identified as lesbian, bisexual or unlabelled. The subjects initially ranged in age from 18 to 25 years old.

The findings showed that bisexual and unlabelled women were more likely than lesbians to change their identity over the course of the study.

Seventeen percent of respondents switched from a bisexual or unlabelled identity to heterosexual during the study - but more than half of these women switched back to bisexual or unlabelled by the end.

By year 10, most of the women were involved in long-term (i.e., more than a year in length) monogamous relationships - 70 per cent of the self-identified lesbians, 89 per cent bisexual, 85 per cent unlabelled and 67 per cent heterosexual.

Karl Herber · 08-04-2008, 04:00 AM

I wonder why that survey didn't also include bisexual men. I am technically bisexual, although I no longer seek relationships with women and I consider myself basically gay now. I do still find women sexually attractive. Some people claim that all bisexual men are actually gay-but-in-denial, and I disagree with this. I certainly believe that some men also fluctuate in pretty much the same way as the women in that survey. And I'm probably one of them.

And that sig quote is perfect, in context.

View Poll Results: Are you the same gender in SL as in RL?
Yes, I'm female in RL and using a female avatar.	72	54.96%
Yes, I'm male in RL and using a male avatar.	32	24.43%
No, I'm a male in RL, but using a female avatar.	8	6.11%
No, I'm a female in RL, but using a male avatar.	2	1.53%
I am using both female and male avatars just as much.	17	12.98%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

08-03-2008, 05:47 PM	#26 (permalink)
Daman Asator Sovereign Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 1,008 SL Join Date: 13/05/2007 My Mood:	In videogames I always play as a female. I usually prefer to play in 3rd person mode - and if I have to stare at ass through 40 hours of gameplay, I prefer it to be female ass. SL is the exception I guess. Male/Male for me here. I had a female alt, but I only used her to try out a bunch of female stuff and I stopped doing that as the quality and amount of men's stuff has been improving slowly but steadily. __________________ Daman in SL

08-03-2008, 06:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
Ingrid N. Senior Member No Status, No Class Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,317 Blog Entries: 1 My Mood:	If you consider this a small war you're in a for a surprise This is just regular sunday night pseudodrama while the big hitters get ready to descend upon the politics forum the next time a thread with the words "abortions" "Obama" or "racism" gets posted . __________________ Oh no, Ingrid!: A Second Life Blog about Second Life! - it's definitely definite. Your head can go real screw With saucers chasin' you

08-03-2008, 06:15 PM	#31 (permalink)
Talon Lardner Member Is here and there Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 51 My Mood:	I tend to be one of those folk who switch my avatar's gender from time to time, but never out of desire to trick someone or stuff like that, it's merely to just check out different looks and different clothes. __________________ My Snapzilla Pics... Why don't you swing by and say Hi? http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/Defau...=Talon+Lardner

08-03-2008, 07:12 PM	#35 (permalink)
Izzy Senior Member needs more sleep Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 225 SL Join Date: 8th April 07 My Mood:	I have a female av in sl and am female in real life, when signing up it didn't dawn on me to do any different, but a few months later a friend and I were chatting ( a male friend) about the lack of quality freebies that males can find compared to some of the amazing freebies women can get. So I signed up a male alt and was given a challenge of sorts to come up with a not so noobish look.. without spending a linden. I managed to do it ok, there is a lot of rubbish freebies out there... but it was fun. I use my male alt for photographing male clothes now, I don't so much use it for socialising as such. __________________

08-03-2008, 05:58 PM	#28 (permalink)
Lila Banned Is tired of being bullied Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 460 My Mood:	Smiling I just should have waited a while. This is my first day here. Don't want to start a small war on my first day

08-03-2008, 06:02 PM	#30 (permalink)
Lila Banned Is tired of being bullied Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 460 My Mood:	Oh I didn't think this was a small war ... yet but I was afraid it was coming because of the warnings I got.

08-03-2008, 06:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
Lila Banned Is tired of being bullied Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 460 My Mood:	LOL, no, I'm not writing any paper, but I am a curious person. So tell me to butt out if I'm too nosy And thanks everyone to the warm welcome I've got from you all

08-03-2008, 07:27 PM	#36 (permalink)
Circle Widdershins Prim Fancier Is watching Schroedinger's cat... O.O .. Huh - boring experiment - nothing is happening....... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Straya Posts: 1,059 SL Join Date: January, 2007 Business: Treasures My Mood:	I'm female in rl and have a female main avvie, and my alt is a girl too. I do put a male shape on my alt when building male jewlery. I have problems wearing a male shape on my main. It just seems wrong for her, to me. I found, a bit to my surprise in the beginning of my sl life, that I got emotionally attached to my main avvie very, very quickly. That's why I spend a Linden fortune trying to make her look pretteh __________________ I have tortured tiny prims for my own amusement and sell the results at my shop: Treasures ~ Jewelry by Circle. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Star%20Scythe/208/179/752

08-03-2008, 07:41 PM	#37 (permalink)
Aki Shichiroji bump. bump. bump. Coffee is not an option; it is mandatory. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sylvan Posts: 582 SL Join Date: 7/22/2006 Business: Kitheres & Organica SLShopper Ads: 4 My Mood:	I am female and spend the bulk of my time on a female av. At some point some time after I first joined SL, during a point in my experience when I didn't feel like getting hit on by guys at the club i was going to, I chose to try something different and created a guy av. The result was a much quieter existence in which to create stuff. Even so, a lot of what I wanted to make I wanted to sell under my main account, so I elected to just isolate myself in a sandbox to make things rather than cut off my friends' list completely. The guy alt now only really sees the light of day on the rare occasions I have something that needs to be sized on a guy av. __________________ Also See: Kitheres Industries (scifi avs, skins, and accessories) \| Organica Updates \| Blog

08-03-2008, 07:44 PM	#38 (permalink)
Decadent the ne'er do-well. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dallas. Posts: 3,369 SL Join Date: '04 '06.	I have a male alt that I created to see how differently some of the people I worked with would interact with a male, and never logged him in afterward. Quimby's av also counts as an alt, since I spend way more time tinkering around with him than he does. Otherwise, Deca's as female as they come (even though I dress her like, and act like, a boy sometimes). __________________ Some day we will look back on all this, laugh nervously and quickly change the subject. -- Tears stream down your face When you lose something you cannot replace Tears stream down your face And I.. Lights will guide you home And ignite your bones And I will try to fix you.

08-03-2008, 07:57 PM	#39 (permalink)
Aisuru Rieko [RESOLVED] ... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: US Posts: 344 SL Join Date: 1/18/08 Business: Beloved My Mood:	female/female. I do have a male alt, but I confess I really only have him to play dress-up with.

08-03-2008, 07:58 PM	#40 (permalink)
Richie Waves Deus ibi est wtf does this do? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 4,457 SL Join Date: 27/06/2005 My Mood:	used to be whatever.. a bee once! and a tiny little duck, mostly a Girl though! __________________ POLAR BEARS FOR OBAMA!!! Impending storm rise up rise up Oh demons I shall shame you! Look down the barrel of my gun and one by one I'll name you Day on day my brothers leave go marching off to war Yet we never understand for what we're fighting for

08-03-2008, 09:28 PM	#41 (permalink)
Sarah Nerd I BUY LAND Can I play with your land? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shermerville Posts: 6,583 Solitaire Champion! Harpoon Lagoon Champion! SLShopper Ads: 1 My Mood: Awards: 2	Female in RL with a female avi that is everything I wish I could be in rl. I also have a guy avi I created for the sole purpose of messaging some girl I had issues a long time ago so I could im her and tell her that I heard she was a real easy lay in sl and I wanted a piece. He's turned out to be very handy for modeling male items for me. __________________ www.SarahNerd.com http://www.your2ndplace.com/sarahnerd

08-04-2008, 03:06 AM	#42 (permalink)
Sooz Pascale Plague on Both Houses Transgendered Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,158 My Mood:	This topic has been a real minefield in the past. However, there is no need for another war over what seems to be an innocent inquiry from someone who appears to be a nice person. [sigh] Let me see if I can de-fuse part of the mine field. I came "out" in another forum some time ago and confessed that I am not a "real" woman in RL. I wish I hadn't, but that is another topic. I am transgendered in RL, basically, although physically male, my brain seems to be more female than male. I do not believe it would be an intelligent decision, at this stage of my life, to "transition" from male to female by taking hormones, living and working as a woman, and eventually getting "THE SURGERY." So, I make do by cross dressing whenever possible and going out in RL dressed as a woman to night clubs, lunches dinners and shopping. SL was a way for me to be female here. Of course my self outing pretty much ruined that in some respects. Many if not most of my female friends in SL, including the ladies in this forum basically treat me like one of the girls and if they believe I am different, they are polite enough and considerate enough not to let me know. Of course, except for a couple of brief flings, I am pretty much "untouchable" in the romance department. Several other cross gendered avatars have confided in me, and I won't betray their confidences. I will say that people change genders in SL for a variety of reasons, few of them sinister. I hope this helps answer part of your question. Sooz __________________ Let's all be kind to one another. 5.5 onthe highly scientific Troutonometer scale.

08-04-2008, 03:52 AM	#46 (permalink)
RandoymRandt sl2rllove.blogspot.com Answer the Question Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: AU Posts: 943 SL Join Date: Originally June 5, 2007 My Mood:	Well, and I hope this helps some folks out there, it reminds me of an article I've been meaning to post: *FEMALE bisexuality has been found to be a sexual orientation itself and not an experimental or transitional stage "on the way" to lesbianism.* The study, published by the American Psychological Association, of 79 non-heterosexual women over 10 years found that bisexual women maintained a stable pattern of attraction to both sexes. Aside from this, the research overthrows the myth that bisexual women are uninterested in or unable to commit to long-term monogamous relationships. "This research provides the first empirical examination of competing assumptions about the nature of bisexuality, both as a sexual identity label and as a pattern of nonexclusive sexual attraction and behaviour," wrote University of Utah psychologist Dr Lisa M. Diamond, who conducted the study. " Diamond used interview data collected five times over a decade from 79 women who identified as lesbian, bisexual or unlabelled. The subjects initially ranged in age from 18 to 25 years old. The findings showed that bisexual and unlabelled women were more likely than lesbians to change their identity over the course of the study. Seventeen percent of respondents switched from a bisexual or unlabelled identity to heterosexual during the study - but more than half of these women switched back to bisexual or unlabelled by the end. By year 10, most of the women were involved in long-term (i.e., more than a year in length) monogamous relationships - 70 per cent of the self-identified lesbians, 89 per cent bisexual, 85 per cent unlabelled and 67 per cent heterosexual. __________________ *...Never Underestimate the Power of Denial...* ~Ricky, American Beauty

08-04-2008, 04:00 AM	#47 (permalink)
Karl Herber Beachcomber Blue Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 320 Blog Entries: 1 My Mood:	I wonder why that survey didn't also include bisexual men. I am technically bisexual, although I no longer seek relationships with women and I consider myself basically gay now. I do still find women sexually attractive. Some people claim that all bisexual men are actually gay-but-in-denial, and I disagree with this. I certainly believe that some men also fluctuate in pretty much the same way as the women in that survey. And I'm probably one of them. And that sig quote is perfect, in context.