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FlipperPA Peregrine · 07-09-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruby tuesday

wait,

does any one remember vworlds or whatever it was called?

each webpage was a separate "world" this is almost exactly like it, omg i missed it so much

That was Virtual Places by Ublique software. I loved it. It was where Nethermind and I first met ages ago. Everyone got a postage stamp sized avatar, and the program literally became a part of your browser. Quite a cool program, and was very useful for collaborative web development.

Regards,

-Flip

FlipperPA Peregrine · 07-09-2008, 10:28 AM

Hmmm, I keep hanging on Joining Room - ideas?

Tyche Shepherd · 07-09-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FlipperPA Peregrine

Hmmm, I keep hanging on Joining Room - ideas?

If you are using Windows ... Stop and use the Door like everyone else !

CaleVinson · 07-09-2008, 10:36 AM

Its very (very) early days of course, but I'm afraid my initial response was rather "meh".

What I find interesting about all these "SL-Killers" (sic), is that, as far as I can see, they reproduce the "easy" functionality of SL, but never the "difficult": the efficient streaming of a contiguous world in which new material can be added at any moment.

Maybe LL aren't quite as incompetent as people suggest.

ps.
I grabbed "Cale.Vinson.SL" (whats the deal with so many of our names being taken?), and headed to the Linden room. Encountered Tizzers Foxchase (at least, someone by that name), who in answer to a question "Do all you guys work in SL?" replied "I'm a professional griefer. *smile*".

LivelyHerald.com anyone?

pps.
Sorry Flip no idea - it just worked for me.

Michael Bigwig · 07-09-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CaleVinson

(whats the deal with so many of our names being taken?)

Ya, I was irked by that...I mean, this is a pretty new applications right?

I tried all these names, and they were already taken:

* Jude.Lawless
* Jude.Law1ess
* Jud3.Lawless

And finally Jude Lawlesss worked...I find that rather hard to believe. I don't think that name is very common...do you?

I can't get in Lively...I hang on 'connecting to room', and it stays that way.

Joannah Cramer · 07-09-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tya

A program like this will replace the text base chat programs. Eventually we will be saying goodbye to yahoo/msn/and the other text based chat programs.

Doubt it. The advantage or regular messenger is, it can sit in the system tray and pop up a note when someone wants to talk to you. That's as unobtrusive as it goes, when you don't actively use it. 3d room web based chat thing on the other hand requires you to keep the browser window open, and when you minimize it you lose the ability to react to what's going inside.

In the conflict between functionality and form, the functionality generally wins.

Michael Bigwig · 07-09-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Joannah Cramer

Doubt it. The advantage or regular messenger is, it can sit in the system tray and pop up a note when someone wants to talk to you. That's as unobtrusive as it goes, when you don't actively use it. 3d room web based chat thing on the other hand requires you to keep the browser window open, and when you minimize it you lose the ability to react to what's going inside.

In the conflict between functionality and form, the functionality generally wins.

I run SL in the background, minimized at work. When I get an IM, hear someone typing, or want to do something, I hit alt-tab...bring it up...take care of business...and minimize it again. I do not consider this a hassle (or obtrusive) at all...in fact, it's quite enjoyable to be able to multi-task like that.

I don't think it would be obtrusive to run Lively (or any web-based metaverse) in the background. You can pop back and forth between windows--I do that all the time (boss is coming! Alt-Tab!)

FYI--I do, however, find IM text popping up from my task bar annoying--unless it's a really good friend.

FlipperPA Peregrine · 07-09-2008, 11:02 AM

I noticed there are a TON of bots in Lively right now. I bet they're grabbing up names like domain name squatters. Look at the popular rooms and check out all the data bots... interesting.

I got in (it runs much better under IE, btw) and felt "meh", but yeah, it is in beta and just getting started.

NO PURPLE HAIR?! WTF.

I'm Flipper.Peregrine.

Atashi Yue · 07-09-2008, 11:10 AM

I'm still not sure. It's...too much like IMVU really.

http://embed.lively.com/iframe?rid=842310145100884066

Okay, how did he get the room added here :/

Cristiano!!!! Help!

Michael Bigwig · 07-09-2008, 11:12 AM

Still joining room...after forever.

Verkin Raven · 07-09-2008, 11:17 AM

So much more convenient than a lightweight multi-service text chat client so far, huh.

Joannah Cramer · 07-09-2008, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Bigwig

I run SL in the background, minimized at work. When I get an IM, hear someone typing, or want to do something, I hit alt-tab...bring it up...take care of business...and minimize it again. I do not consider this a hassle (or obtrusive) at all...in fact, it's quite enjoyable to be able to multi-task like that.

Eep. I run SL in the window, usually positioned in a way so the web browser on top of it doesn't hide the 'im received' notification... so i can keep eye on them. But if it's large application like Photoshop or Lightwave, i shut SL altogether. Would drive me bonkers to force myself away from work every few minutes just to check if there's some potential issue to address. I already take ages to get anything done, with extra concentration/thought train breaks like that ... just eep

FlipperPA Peregrine · 07-09-2008, 11:30 AM

Michael, I was having the same problem. It appears they're having issues, but I did get in eventually after a bunch of tries.

**Sarah Nerd** · 07-09-2008, 02:28 PM

Look Cristiano's pad is famous. They linked up my two stupid videos to a few places.
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Walker · 07-09-2008, 02:31 PM

I uninstalled it because it was getting on my nerves.

BEARintheMorning · 07-09-2008, 02:50 PM

My question about this is - can I promote my show in there?

Is it possible or even worthwhile to build another BitM "virtual broadcast location"?

Aodhan McDunnough · 07-09-2008, 02:57 PM

SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW TAKES FOREVER TO LOAD

SL at its slowest is a bullet train compared to what I saw. I'd like to see Lively develop but daaaaamn I can't stand that slowness.

CaneSutter · 07-09-2008, 03:07 PM

eh, i don't like the avatars so don't see myself spending any time there : P
They even make IMVU avs look realistic in comparison, sadly.

**Sarah Nerd** · 07-09-2008, 03:18 PM

I wonder how content creation will work when they get it started.

Marianne McCann · 07-09-2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodhan McDunnough

SL at its slowest is a bullet train compared to what I saw. I'd like to see Lively develop but daaaaamn I can't stand that slowness.

Seeeriously. That plus the lack of user generated or really much costomizable avatar content left me feeling pretty "meh" about it.

It's an IMVU killer, not an SL killer. And even that might take a while.

I did grab my name - marianne.mccann - just to be on the same side.

Mari
(peeking into SLU on one of her rare moment)

**Sarah Nerd** · 07-09-2008, 06:21 PM

Atashi Yue · 07-09-2008, 06:23 PM

Sarah just killed the main page! Ack!

I was in Lively a few minutes today, but I couldn't figure out how to get the laptop thingy Cristiano was using to stream music.

**Beebo Brink** · 07-09-2008, 07:35 PM

First tour of Lively:

1) Takes longer to finish loading than even the most lag-ridden sim I've ever visited

2) Women are only allowed to get "female" clothing --the selections are filtered based on your gender assignments, so no embarassing cross-dressers allowed.

3) Two different men thought it was great fun to just come up to me and start slapping me around. Body slamming them in retaliation was interesting, but overall the encounters -- compeete with gaspy woman noises from my avatar -- was distasteful and difficult to avoid without simply logging out. Which I did.

Sanitized, rigid, and mundane.

Lordfly Digeridoo · 07-09-2008, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah Nerd

I wonder how content creation will work when they get it started.

Scrubbed of any copyright infringement and/or naughty bits. So just like There and IMVU.

This is of course if they ever bother implementing it...

CaleVinson · 07-09-2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebo Brink

Sanitized, rigid, and mundane.

Mitch has been moonlighting?

07-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#134 (permalink)
Atashi Yue Meh(Tee Em) Outside the Median Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,210 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 5	I'm still not sure. It's...too much like IMVU really. http://embed.lively.com/iframe?rid=842310145100884066 Okay, how did he get the room added here :/ Cristiano!!!! Help! Last edited by Atashi Yue; 07-09-2008 at 11:18 AM.

07-09-2008, 02:50 PM	#141 (permalink)
BEARintheMorning Is this thing ON?!? Virtually burned out. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,291 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 7 SL Join Date: March 17, 2007 Business: BEARly There Enterprises	My question about this is - can I promote my show in there? Is it possible or even worthwhile to build another BitM "virtual broadcast location"? __________________ You know you're addicted to drag racing when: During the winter, you roll the windows down just to smell the tire smoke from skidding tires.

07-09-2008, 03:07 PM	#143 (permalink)
CaneSutter FoF Designer/Owner Join Date: May 2008 Location: I live a couple of hours above Atlanta, GA, in the countryside along the mountains. Quite scenic! Posts: 80 SLShopper Ads: 20 SL Join Date: I joined in 2006 but didn't start logging in until May 2008 Business: Flights of Fancy Clothiers	eh, i don't like the avatars so don't see myself spending any time there : P They even make IMVU avs look realistic in comparison, sadly. __________________

07-09-2008, 07:35 PM	#148 (permalink)
Beebo Brink Uppity Alt SLU Supporter I'm the woman your mother warned you about. Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,875 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 19 SL Join Date: October 2006 Business: Brazen Women Shapes and Skins	First tour of Lively: 1) Takes longer to finish loading than even the most lag-ridden sim I've ever visited 2) Women are only allowed to get "female" clothing --the selections are filtered based on your gender assignments, so no embarassing cross-dressers allowed. 3) Two different men thought it was great fun to just come up to me and start slapping me around. Body slamming them in retaliation was interesting, but overall the encounters -- compeete with gaspy woman noises from my avatar -- was distasteful and difficult to avoid without simply logging out. Which I did. Sanitized, rigid, and mundane. __________________ Browse http://www.BrazenWomen.com

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07-09-2008, 10:28 AM	#127 (permalink)
FlipperPA Peregrine Evil Incarnate! Recursion is beautiful! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 6,378 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 1 SL Join Date: 2003-11-14 Business: Peregrine Salon	Hmmm, I keep hanging on Joining Room - ideas?

07-09-2008, 10:36 AM	#129 (permalink)
CaleVinson Hypersonic Absolutist Fully Zeno certified Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,506	Its very (very) early days of course, but I'm afraid my initial response was rather "meh". What I find interesting about all these "SL-Killers" (sic), is that, as far as I can see, they reproduce the "easy" functionality of SL, but never the "difficult": the efficient streaming of a contiguous world in which new material can be added at any moment. Maybe LL aren't quite as incompetent as people suggest. ps. I grabbed "Cale.Vinson.SL" (whats the deal with so many of our names being taken?), and headed to the Linden room. Encountered Tizzers Foxchase (at least, someone by that name), who in answer to a question "Do all you guys work in SL?" replied "I'm a professional griefer. smile". LivelyHerald.com anyone? pps. Sorry Flip no idea - it just worked for me.

07-09-2008, 11:02 AM	#133 (permalink)
FlipperPA Peregrine Evil Incarnate! Recursion is beautiful! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 6,378 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 1 SL Join Date: 2003-11-14 Business: Peregrine Salon	I noticed there are a TON of bots in Lively right now. I bet they're grabbing up names like domain name squatters. Look at the popular rooms and check out all the data bots... interesting. I got in (it runs much better under IE, btw) and felt "meh", but yeah, it is in beta and just getting started. NO PURPLE HAIR?! WTF. I'm Flipper.Peregrine.

07-09-2008, 11:12 AM	#135 (permalink)
Michael Bigwig ~VRML Aficionado~ Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Riverside, Rhode Island Posts: 1,873 SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: 12/02/05 Business: Glowbox Designs Blog Entries: 1	Still joining room...after forever.

07-09-2008, 11:17 AM	#136 (permalink)
Verkin Raven vs. Godzilla :D Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,068 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 3 SL Join Date: 1/4/05 Blog Entries: 2	So much more convenient than a lightweight multi-service text chat client so far, huh.

07-09-2008, 11:30 AM	#138 (permalink)
FlipperPA Peregrine Evil Incarnate! Recursion is beautiful! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 6,378 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 1 SL Join Date: 2003-11-14 Business: Peregrine Salon	Michael, I was having the same problem. It appears they're having issues, but I did get in eventually after a bunch of tries.

07-09-2008, 02:31 PM	#140 (permalink)
Walker Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10,322 Doom Rider Champion!	I uninstalled it because it was getting on my nerves.

07-09-2008, 02:57 PM	#142 (permalink)
Aodhan McDunnough exp(ln(Gearhead)) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 5,842 My Mood: Beer Tapper Gone Wild Champion! Apprentice : Dairy Queen Champion! SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: March 28, 2006 Business: Aodhan's Forge Blog Entries: 2	SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW TAKES FOREVER TO LOAD SL at its slowest is a bullet train compared to what I saw. I'd like to see Lively develop but daaaaamn I can't stand that slowness.

07-09-2008, 03:18 PM	#144 (permalink)
Sarah Nerd I BUY LAND SLU Supporter Still floating around the interwebz Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: O-hi-o! Posts: 9,260 My Mood: Harpoon Lagoon Champion! SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: August 05 Awards: 2	I wonder how content creation will work when they get it started.

07-09-2008, 06:21 PM	#146 (permalink)
Sarah Nerd I BUY LAND SLU Supporter Still floating around the interwebz Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: O-hi-o! Posts: 9,260 My Mood: Harpoon Lagoon Champion! SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: August 05 Awards: 2	<iframe src='http://embed.lively.com/iframe?rid=6162319369561850728' width='460' height='400' marginwidth='0' marginheight='0' frameborder='0' scrolling='no'></iframe> http://embed.lively.com/iframe?rid=6162319369561850728 Hate to admit it but I've been playing around in here more today than sl. Probably just because it's new and exciting.

07-09-2008, 06:23 PM	#147 (permalink)
Atashi Yue Meh(Tee Em) Outside the Median Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,210 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 5	Sarah just killed the main page! Ack! I was in Lively a few minutes today, but I couldn't figure out how to get the laptop thingy Cristiano was using to stream music.

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