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jauani · 07-08-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

The ability to embed rooms in web pages and such may prove to be a killer app, especially if there is user creatable content ultimately.

i think the ability to imbed the client into a browser is fundemental for sl to go mainstream. there has to be a continuity between websites and second life sites for a smooth experience. this is particularly important for sl to rise above a leisure space and become a full on extension of the www.

**Cristiano** · 07-08-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tess Whitcroft

Scary question Cristiano? Can aps be embedded in posts here at SLUniverse?

Tess

Not directly by users - I don't allow HTML in posts. The Youtube embedding is handled by a plugin, and I can add support for various embedding types if I want through that, or through BBcode. Hmm, I should see what it looks like embedded.

**Sarah Nerd** · 07-08-2008, 08:05 PM

I'll be happy when they ad more purple clothes for me to buy.

jauani · 07-08-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eboni Khan

SL feature set is widely under utilized by the average user. The majority of users want to look cute and find people to hook up with. You can do that anywhere, once something gets a large enough following those people will jump.

The main lure of SL is that you can make money, but that won't last forever.

the majority of users are consumers, not creators. the main lure of sl is that you can have play out a very diverse anonymous fantasy lives from the safety of your home.

Atashi Yue · 07-08-2008, 08:09 PM

I dunno.

Ordinal Malaprop · 07-08-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

I am curious why you are so overwhelmingly negative about it? I spent some time in it and actually enjoyed it and was impressed with its potential. It has flaws, but I'm sorry, it is not crap. It is not trying to be an SL killer by any means, but it is an impressive effort and is a BETA. I look forward to seeing what they do with it.

Well, the whole "not working properly" thing rather did it for me. Twitter is full of people saying "wtf this keeps crashing" and that is certainly my experience as well.

Even from the bits that I saw before it crashed - I was able to buy a few things and change a few options - there was nothing beyond the usual There/Kaneva/etc clone, and I am sick and bloody tired of that sort of "micro"payment closed-content dress-the-doll buy-our-hair concept. It is like yet another platform game in the late 80s.

I expected better from Google to be honest, as I've been told that they make an effort to hire imaginative and competent people, but perhaps that is a rumour, or perhaps they haven't put them on this project.

Summerlynn Thespian · 07-08-2008, 08:11 PM

It doesn't work for me, spends about 20m minutes saying 'joining room' and nothing happening...
Am I meant to wait? Am I being impatient?

**Eboni Khan** · 07-08-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jauani

the majority of users are consumers, not creators. the main lure of sl is that you can have play out a very diverse anonymous fantasy lives from the safety of your home.

the next big thing that comes along that allows people to enjoy their virtual fisting will steal the audience. I don't see people being loyal to SL/LL long term.

Tess Whitcroft · 07-08-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerlynn Thespian

It doesn't work for me, spends about 20m minutes saying 'joining room' and nothing happening...
Am I meant to wait? Am I being impatient?

Since it was just announced today and since lots of folks are getting off work/school and just hearing about it I suspect it will be mostly unusable this evening. Also there are some server outages in the SF Bay Area due to the heat. This could also have an effect.

Tess

Summerlynn Thespian · 07-08-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tess Whitcroft

Since it was just announced today and since lots of folks are getting off work/school and just hearing about it I suspect it will be mostly unusable this evening. Also there are some server outages in the SF Bay Area due to the heat. This could also have an effect.

Tess

Ah, I'll probably try it out later in the week at some unGodly hour then, no rush.

**Cristiano** · 07-08-2008, 08:19 PM

Tess Whitcroft · 07-08-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ordinal Malaprop

Embedding something which doesn't work on your Myspace is not going to be a big draw, I foresee. Even if it does work it will be a big bandwidth drain for any visitor and they will want some sort of blocking plugin.

Honestly, nobody cares about Seesmic either, apart from the vlogging crowd, and even they have gone off the idea.

I also think you are mistaken about Seesmic and the LA Times seems to agree...

Goodnight, Seesmic. Goodnight, Pete. | Technology | Los Angeles Times

Tess

Quiplash · 07-08-2008, 08:29 PM

Well it's clear that Google is going after a market that SL has had trouble reaching... the teens.

Get'em while they're young, and they're your s forever, I believe the old saying goes.

Smart move, but the adults are going to tire of this after half an hour (if that long) and move on.

**Cristiano** · 07-08-2008, 08:31 PM

Okay this is pretty cool - Atashi, Nimrod, and Lordfly all came into the room through the embedded post.

Lordfly Digeridoo · 07-08-2008, 08:31 PM

I also ruined your house.

Joshua Nightshade · 07-08-2008, 08:33 PM

Great comment Nimrod!

Joannah Cramer · 07-08-2008, 08:40 PM

The real user-created content test would be...

... has anyone made a penis in there, yet?

Quiplash · 07-08-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Annika Bekkers

I'm not too impressed. Just cuz its Google doesnt mean its going to be automatically successful. They've got their share of duds too.

Anybody remember Orkut? It started out with such promise, and failed to deliver on that with mismanagement and ineptitude (sound familiar)? At best Orkut is a niche player, with large numbers of users in Brazil and India, from what I've read.

Any large corporation can stumble, especially when entering a new market.

Mecha Dinosaur · 07-08-2008, 08:55 PM

I went to the LindenLabs room, and found someone by the name of Pathfinder punching everyone. First griefing in Lively.

Brenda Archer · 07-08-2008, 09:27 PM

I tried going to the LL room, froze in place, and got molested by someone who kept trying to kiss me. I managed to make one snarky remark, then my computer froze and I had to hard reboot. I'll try again but you may see me appear and disappear. I am brenda.archer.1

**Sarah Nerd** · 07-08-2008, 09:32 PM

Nothing exciting at all here, but I did this and a video in Cristianos pad for my blog just to show what it looks like.

YouTube - My first 5 minites in Google Lively

Charlemagne Allen · 07-08-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Beezle Warburton

BTW, I'm Beezle.W in Lively, any other name is likely a Korean knock-off.

Wow, that is so you.

**Sarah Nerd** · 07-08-2008, 09:46 PM

YouTube - In Google Lively with the SLUniverse.com crew.

Brenda Archer · 07-08-2008, 09:48 PM

I tried going to Cristiano's room through the embed and it was loading... then it froze. I tried closing the browser, which froze, and then did a soft reboot, and then my computer decided the disk was in an inconsistent state and it ran CHKDSK, which it hasn't felt the need to do before. I am now officially nervous about Lively and not going to try again.

**Circle Widdershins** · 07-08-2008, 10:03 PM

Bah Humbug

""Lively is not ready for your platform.

Lively requires Windows Vista or XP with Internet Explorer or Firefox.""

Stoopid non Linux loving piece of crap

ETA *Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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Quiplash aka Dances With Skulls Going, going... Goth! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in a box under the freeway Posts: 1,089 My Mood:	Well it's clear that Google is going after a market that SL has had trouble reaching... the teens. Get'em while they're young, and they're your s forever, I believe the old saying goes. Smart move, but the adults are going to tire of this after half an hour (if that long) and move on.

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Cristiano Hive Mind Director forum overlord Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 10,788 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 4 SL Join Date: Dec 2002 Business: ANOmations Blog Entries: 16 XBOX Leaderboard: 22^nd	Okay this is pretty cool - Atashi, Nimrod, and Lordfly all came into the room through the embedded post.

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Brenda Archer Tired Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 3,830 My Mood: SL Join Date: 4/28/2005 Blog Entries: 4	I tried going to the LL room, froze in place, and got molested by someone who kept trying to kiss me. I managed to make one snarky remark, then my computer froze and I had to hard reboot. I'll try again but you may see me appear and disappear. I am brenda.archer.1

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Brenda Archer Tired Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 3,830 My Mood: SL Join Date: 4/28/2005 Blog Entries: 4	I tried going to Cristiano's room through the embed and it was loading... then it froze. I tried closing the browser, which froze, and then did a soft reboot, and then my computer decided the disk was in an inconsistent state and it ran CHKDSK, which it hasn't felt the need to do before. I am now officially nervous about Lively and not going to try again.

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