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Cocoanut Koala

You know, I just thought of another thing that you can get away with charging for online, besides possibly game shows.

In fact, I KNOW you can get away with charging for it.

And that's something with cachet; something for la creme de la creme; something that everyone who is anyone will show up at.

In TSO, in Alphaville, we had a theater troop who charged what was a fair amount of money (I forget what, maybe 700 simoleons, and that was before they became devalued) for attending a night at the theater.

The way they packaged it - the way they promoted it - all plenty ahead of time, with the special nights that you knew about weeks in advance - all very tasteful and upscale - oh, I don't know exactly what all there was about it.

But you KNEW somehow, that if you were a known Sim (a person was a "Sim"), that this was a cultural thing and you wanted to participate.

Kind of like the ballet is (traditionally) for people with money, at least in the best seats. (And of course seats were so limited in TSO that any seats were the best seats.)

So somehow this all took on the panache of something that everybody who was anybody would be at.

OK, so I got to that thought by what you said about the Greenies. Combined with talk of the Starax wand in the other thread.

IF the Greenies became something that only those with money could or would do anyhow (and not just the Greenies, but whatever sims they or anybody have) -

- and IF somehow it got associated with people who have money to toss around (like the Starax wand, which was easily bought by people with lots of money, though others saved diligently for it - I couldn't, I had other things to save for) -

-THEN it might be something that enough people would do to sustain itself, and charge a lot, too.

I can't imagine Greenies somehow managing this; it isn't exactly a night at the opera.

Just saying, I did think of one other thing that people will pay for (besides wonderful interactive entertainment that stars THEM), and that is the sort of thing that appeals to people who consider themselves, oh, the pillars of society, and all.

Just like irl, with the museum, ballet, etc. Patrons of all that, you might say.

coco

P.S. I was one of those who went to those plays in TSO; and in real life, I have always been into ballet (even taught it), museums, etc. I just don't have enough money irl to be a patron, or attend the special events for patrons, etc.

But I just didn't want anyone to think I was putting down people like that, above, because I *am* people like that! And of course many of us might want to support something like that in SL, at the same time as being seen with everyone who is anyone.

Seems like no one has done that really. But that would be a thing people do, under the right circumstances, pay for.

P.S. Oh yeah - I do get to go to some special museum thingies these days, since I'm married to an art teacher. They are for art teachers, not rich folks, but still fun and special!

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Cocoanut Koala

A good point!

And you know what, there's another factor, too. There is the sheer drive-by physicality of those places. We pass by a smaller amusement park, an unknown one, take a look, a decide if it looks worth it. (And generally we can see a fair amount.)

We can drive past the zoo, see the people going in, the buildings in a distance, the bright signs and the general atmosphere.

But the same thing for stuff we can't see inside! We judge, then, by the outside. Who WOULDN'T figure the met must be something impressive, even if you had never heard of it.

We take a gander at restaurants, movie theaters, everything, before we go inside, and even then, we can turn around and go back out! (Even at a museum or zoo that charges for entry, you can at least get to the ticket taker.) And so on.

Greenies (or whatever) can advertise, but it isn't quite the same, say, as for Disneyland or somewhere. Somehow - a couple of still pictures of a place - even when pimped by the Lindens themselves on their main page - it is hard to get people interested.

Well, not hard to get them interested, so much as hard to get them to pay for a place that is QUITE LITERALLY INVISIBLE.

Till you pay.

Seems to me it might be better to somehow have a sort of entry point, at which you could land, see some, and then decide if you want to go further. I'm not sure how or if that could be done in SL, though.

coco

P.S. Yes I do know, one way how, anyhow. Let's say you had a number of sims (like Rezzable apparently does). You would set aside a sim - separate from the others (that can be done, right?) and on it you would set up little island areas of teasers: A taste of the haunted house island, a taste of the space island, etc.

Then if you liked one of them, you could buy your ticket there, at its own little area, and then you could go to that island. "Hey, honey, let's try this one with little green guys!" Buy ticket at right at that spot.

Was that fun? Well, then, come back to the little sampler island, and maybe pick out another place!

Have a few gift items to purchase on the taster spots, too. Get em involved. (And if nothing else, sell a coupla gift items!)

Hell, that is SUCH a good idea, that I can safely assume they will never do it.

Beezle Warburton

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Cocoanut Koala

Well, but I was thinking you wouldn't want them to be able to see too MUCH, or cam around.

That little teaser island would get all KINDS of people to pay. It would be fun in and of itself! Imagine going there on a date, then choosing which destination.

coco

Miriel Enfield

Thread, arise and do my dark bidding!

Okay, so maybe this thread isn't quite that dead yet.

Just how awesome does Rezzable think their stuff is? Well, I just spotted this, from this entry discussing the new Showcase, emphasis mine:

So, not only is their build the best thing on the grid, nothing else even remotely comes close.

Riiiight.

I've never been to Black Swan. And thanks to this, I never will.

(If the offending sentence wasn't entirely serious, of course, I take all this back, but there doesn't seem to be much indication that it is. Besides its outrageousness, anyway.)

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Vengence Opus

ladies and gentlemen...

i will be logging in at random intervals throughout the week, at which times you may pay to see me. (actual visiting will be extra. staring at the visage of my studly avatar should be enough. money talks, and, for money, i'll talk.)

i'm a great build, and very creative.

this is not an escort service. call me a hooker, and i shall go forth with the pimp slap. meat or knuckles, you pick.

500L a minute for the first five minutes, 250L for each additional minute, and, for any silly stuff, there will be an entrance fee of 10,000L, payable in gambling tokens.

this all for a charitable cause...that being cause i need a mankini.











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NeoBokrug Elytis

While this thread is risen, I would like to share my personal disappointment... no outrage at rezzable.

The first time I saw anything done by rezzable were the Greenies creations littered around sandboxes. I was impressed because back then they were genuinely good. Then they got their own greenies sim! The attention to details was astounding, super huge environments made you feel small. It was great. At the time my understanding was they were doing it to just do it. "Fuck yeah!" I thought, doing shit to just do shit. Further exploring the sim you'd eventually end up at their shop where they sold Greenies avs. I had thought that's a pretty good business model, but not something to sustain a sim indefinitely. Then I noticed the subtle product placements later, and I thought they were pretty smart.

Speed up the timeline a bit...

Rezzable has a few sims I've noticed now, and I am sort of meh about them, but they still have sims and after reading a few articles I am under the impression they just do them to do them. They're pretty secretive and stuff about their business, so that's the best assumption.

Forward to shortly after IAL. I was without a SL-INWORLD job at the time and applying at various places, and rezzable was one of my top 3, I sent a nice descriptive email out, and never got a reply. About the same time I discovered the Second Life - The Wastelands & Post Apocalyptic Pool on flickr. This is still, to this day one of my daily internet stops. I like to see residents and visitors havin' a good time. More about that...

In Feb or so (I think), I eventually got a reply from the people at Rezzable, but it wasn't about work. It was an advertisement about some already complete project they thought I should visit. Mostly I was like of dumbfounded, I was excited to get an email reply about potentially working for them, only to be grounded by the fact that it essentially was spam. I guess I was sort of irritated by it, not mad or anything.

About in March I got a sort of canned reply for them for a scripting job, that I should check out on their website, but I was already working on something else and I could not commit the time to it. So I passed it up. About the same time I started seeing posts in teh flickr pool that were kinda questionably PA, not really more dystopian, but I am a prude when it comes to PA. My mindset was "Okay guys, haha".

Eventually the posts in the flickr pool were blaitent advertisements for stuff they were doing, especially around the NPIRL thing they did. WTF guys? Not at all Post Apocalyptic, and just spamming the flickr pool. Granted, I am not the administrator of it, but you'd think they'd have the decency to not spam non-PA stuff in a PA image-thing-place. I posted a comment on one of the images posted by RightAsRain in the photo pool, asking how this image was relevant to the group, they deleted the comment, and turned comments off.


You guys used to be cool, but now you've stooped to tactics that clubs in SL do when they're failing. Please undo all the wrong and be cool again.

This has nothing to do with the people who work for rezzable, just the direction the company is heading.

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Just sayin'

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NeoBokrug Elytis

Oh even better! I went to check on that picture the (URL is flickr, and it's being a whore on teh forums) Seems you're only allowed to leave NICE comments. And not ones that question your content.

hxxp://www.flickr.com/photos/xlent1/2679914658 change xx to tt

Verkin Raven

They aren't the best artists on the grid. "Best" is always going to be perpetually mired in subjectivity, no matter what superficial (and usually laughable) authority claims otherwise.

Although any artist, no matter how good, that thumps their chest, abuses their capabilities for self-importance, or uses it as an emotional crutch instantly goes to the bottom of the list for me.

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Sarah Nerd

Sorry if it's already been said but I'm to lazy to read it all. I have a good friend who works at greenies. It's 99L to buy a ring to enter that sim. You get a cute green gem alien head ring. If you already have a greenies avatar it lets you right in to reward customer loyalty. I stood by the door with my friend to shoot the breeze for a while and there was no shortage of people going in with the 99l fee. It's a very unique and well done sim so I think it's well worth the 99l to people who love and love to hang out in Greenies. If it works out for them, maybe it will start a new mentality in SL and we will see less sims closing because they can't support themselves. Obviously this will only work for top of the line well built sims with amazing attractions, but it would be nice to see these types of sims find a way to remain open if they don't sell objects. Then again if someone has never been to a sim, why would they pay just to look. I guess I'm on the fence about this and it would really need to be considered on a sim to sim basis.

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Aki Shichiroji

You know, if it were just this and if it were demonstratable that it was worth it? Sure, why not?

However, with some of the other blatantly spammy and unfair behaviors mentioned by others here, I'm inclined to agree that I would not spend money to visit Rezzable's sims again.

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