Psyke Phaeton

"Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure."

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Stroker Serpentine

Jezzzus...Is there ANYTHING LL does right??

Macphisto Angelus

Considering residents sometimes can't even pay them for service..I would venture a big no to that, Stroker.

Solomon Devoix

That's a rhetorical question, right?

Everett Linden also just made a blog post about SL5B and how it was a misunderstanding about their statements that certain groups would be excluded, etc.

Looks like this is the Lindens' "Let's spin what we said" day in spades...

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I'm feeling fairly chipper despite some of the things going wrong in my life. It must be my meds.

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This has nothing to do with the residents. There are MANY residents who pay Linden Lab for their services - "subscription", sim, etc.

You'd think Linden Lab would get it by now.

Joshua Nightshade

Miss Laura P Linden says in the blog comments:

@14, 17, 33 — Yes, to clarify, our mistake was that we removed content that was not the subject of a DMCA notification. We’ve taken steps to make sure this doesn’t happen again. And we apologize for this mistake and for the confusion it caused.

@ 28, 35 — We agree that it’s not good practice to remove content from Residents’ inworld and inventory locations without notifying them. That’s not our DMCA policy or practice. Our practice is to send email to the email address we have on file for the owners of the content that’s to be removed. So it shouldn’t be a surprise when content disappears as the result of a DMCA claim. The disappearance of content this past weekend without notice was our mistake. It’s not our DMCA policy or practice. Again, we’re sorry about its happening and have implemented internal processes to protect against its happening again.

@54 — If your content was subject to a DMCA notification sent to Linden Lab, we would have sent you email to your email address on file for your account. Check that email address. You may also send questions about your content and the DMCA process to removals@lindenlab.com.

@65 — Questions about the status of DMCA claims submitted to us may be sent to removals@lindenlab.com. You might check whether these creators submitted claims as abuse reports or through the DMCA process outlined here: Second Life | DMCA: Digital Millennium Copyright Act. DMCA claims must be submitted through the DMCA process (and not as abuse reports).

@2 — This information is not intended to scare Residents. As we know well from our mistake this past weekend, content removal is a serious matter. It’s an extremely important tool for copyright owners to remedy infringement. But before proceeding, it’s important to understand any competing rights and interests. The different viewpoints in the comments to this blog post show well that there are interests on all sides of content removal. Thanks, everyone, for contributing your thoughts.



My comment was #3. I am not surprised at all it was not deemed worthy of response.

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Beebo Brink

You're missing his point, which is that on many occasions people have been LITERALLY unable to pay LL because the billing system was so fubared that payments would not go through.

Which is seriously incomptent. Usually taking your money is the one thing any company can get right.

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Macphisto Angelus

Oh, I know. What I mean is there wasn't too long ago that people who are already set up to pay, etc couldn't pay tier, membership, etc. LL's billing was so borked even with them wanting to pay LL they couldn't.

They can't even bill properly and if as a company you screw up the process that pays your electricity you are beyond screwed up.

FlipperPA Peregrine

First off, geez, they've managed to do it again.

The one thing that worries me about this, and I'll use a real example. I have a lot of scripts out there - such as the FlipTitle one - that are full mod and have been out for years (from back in the early days of the GNUbie Store before assholes were everywhere). Anyone with that script could rename it, put whatever infringing code they want in place of it, and save it... with me still listed as the creator in any number of objects.

If that infringing code still has me listed as creator, instead of the "actual" creator who just did the modification... I could potentially be banned.

What a total cluster fuck. Why is there only a "Created By" and "Owned By" and not a "Last Modified By" field, at the least? I've shared my ideas for a better system (pre-registration of creations, vaulted information, etc) through SLPTO - Linden Lab asked me to take it down, which I'm doing. Here's hoping they at least GOM something which helps hard working content creators instead of things that pad their bank vault.

I've gone out of my way lately to work with and understand this company at significant cost to myself, with time I don't have (SLTrivia, SLGuide, SLPTO, SecondBlogger); however, they continue to disappoint. I'm sure glad they're according the fucking content thieves every second chance and comfort they can, however; leave admitted criminals who take money from hard working people (Rase Kenzo, Volkov Catteneo?) in world, but be sure you ban everyone even remotely associated with a few grid crashers through guilt by association!

*facepalm*

Regards,

-Flip

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Solomon Devoix

Actually, I've been thinking a lot about this, too. I've got some freebies up on SLX, at least one of which is full perms (prim and script) so that other people can look at it, mod it themselves, and so on. And I know for a fact that, being full perms, it also gets given to people in-world that never bought it for L$0 on SLX.

:/

Gigs

This makes no sense. Open source is as much against illegal copying as anything else. The entire free software movement relies on being able to enforce copyright. The GPL means nothing if you ignore copyright law.

Also I'm an Open Source dev, and I'm a free market libertarian, but I'll let that one slide too... Just be careful with your neat little bins...

Shiva Shiskabob

ah, i love linden screwups. makes me feel all warm n' fuzzy inside, well in between th'lag an'screwed up logins. :-)

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temp. derail: no moar nipple!!!

Brenda Archer

It's breathtakingly arrogant for them to ignore your comment, and by extension the collective experience of the group you once led.

I almost could not read the blogpost, or the one that comes after about the birthday party. The first paragraph of either one are dazzling examples of fail, and sound as if they were written by a seventeen year old announcing a sorority dance.

SL should not be a club, it should be a business, and ideally it should be a community, and since LL can't see out of its own rectum I guess someone else is going to be the Future.

This is strong language coming from me but anybody has a limit to their patience.

Joshua Nightshade

It did seem like they were quick to get that entry pushed down, huh?

I mean, no blog entries all weekend, and suddenly there's three, not counting the DMCA one.

Solomon Devoix

Yep. I noticed that, too.

Joshua Nightshade

LOL But look, Katt's right there to call someone out for making multiple posts as different people.

I wonder if that counts as disclosure.

Solomon Devoix

...and now someone is saying they screwed THAT up, too. I don't know if they did or not, but I'm quite willing to believe they did.

Ten

Pretty sure it does. It's not a "third party site".

Solomon Devoix

I dare someone to tell the normally non-communicative Communications Linden that she's finally managed to over-communicate...

Solomon Devoix

/me ponders:

Since Katt tells us that she "feels our pain" I wonder if she pulled an Obi-Wan Kenobi this weekend?

"It was as if a million content owners cried out in terror, and were suddenly... er, not silenced, which explains this splitting headache..."

Ten

What I want to know is, if this sucks so much for all of us, why does everyone else avoid my question of a class action lawsuit? WTF is the point of that? We'd rather bitch than doing anything?

Joshua Nightshade

Sure, you're paying the lawyer yeah?