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Old 05-16-2017, 08:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So, one of the longtime reasons a lot of folks rented land is being closed.

I would hope the plaintiff requested changes prior to filing the notice -- because if you didn't - screw you.

Just what SL needs now is a bunch of heartbroken people leaving because their pets are not breedables anymore.


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Old 05-16-2017, 09:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Buh? What intellectual property are the bunnies and pufflings, exactly? I've tried googling Edward Distelhurst and Akimeta Ltd. and all I could find was that Akimeta is some sort of terraforming/sim management company in SL.
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Buh? What intellectual property are the bunnies and pufflings, exactly? I've tried googling Edward Distelhurst and Akimeta Ltd. and all I could find was that Akimeta is some sort of terraforming/sim management company in SL.
I don't know but I found this on Akimeta.
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I had thought about posting this story earlier.

I really have to give credit to the Ozimals team for not simply closing their doors and disappearing, they're giving out tools to allow you to turn any bunny into a permanent pet, not needing food, not breeding either, but still hopping around happily.

I'm still holding out some small hope that they get some legal advise and determine that they have a viable way to fight this.
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People have gotten to where they don't want to fight this kind of thing in SL anymore. It happens way too often. From what little info there is out there it looks like a partnership (multiple partners) is being dissolved and not on good terms either. Most of us just don't have the time or the money to fight.
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I don't understand. All these articles seem to be about Ozimals trying to force some virtual-horse-breeding company out of business. Does this C&D letter have to do with that, or is it some third party entering the fray?
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Pure guess from quick searches of their websites , the C&D now is from folks who worked on Ozimals at some point.

Wish it all had a happy ending. The bunnies are so cute.
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I don't understand. All these articles seem to be about Ozimals trying to force some virtual-horse-breeding company out of business. Does this C&D letter have to do with that, or is it some third party entering the fray?
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Two different cases. From what I can gleen, Aki was "partnered" with Ozimals, probably for mapping and texturing the bunnies (just my guess). Since Aki is a member of SLU we should wait and see what she has to say. Although she may not be able to discuss what happened yet if she has any desire to do so.

I don't want to post the link to the Akimeta blog page that explains what Aki does as it contains her RL name and I don't want to cross that boundary with Cris so you'll have to find that info yourself.

In posting those links, I was trying to provide some background info for those who don't know about the Amaretto vs Ozimals legal proceedings. It has no legal bearing on the current event but it does give perspective.
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I would like to hear the other side of the situation, before passing judgement. But all I'm seeing is the one side.
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I would like to hear the other side of the situation, before passing judgement. But all I'm seeing is the one side.
Probably because that is all the information that can be given publicly. It's not uncommon in these situations for there to be a "gag order" restraining the defendant and plaintiff from talking about the case.

As I said, we will have to wait for Aki to tell us her side when (or if) she can do so, IF she chooses to do so.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well now that the Ozimal blog has been shut down people are going to be wondering. Maybe you should add the link to Inara's blog piece to the OP if Nan has no objections? It will help to cut down on confusion.
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Malkavyn, I see you listed as currently viewing the thread (nothing wrong with that) so can you at least tell us if you are under a gag order please?

I understand this is not a good time for you and if you don't want to respond I won't hold it against you.

This isn't an attempt to start a war between you and Aki on SLU, it's more of an attempt to prevent one.
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Well now that the Ozimal blog has been shut down people are going to be wondering. Maybe you should add the link to Inara's blog piece to the OP if Nan has no objections? It will help to cut down on confusion.
I added it to the original post with a note.
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The Ozimals blog is empty now - this was the original posting on it.

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I don't understand. All these articles seem to be about Ozimals trying to force some virtual-horse-breeding company out of business.
That's pretty shitty of them, even if it happened years ago.
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Just doing a little bit of information digging, it appears as though Ozimals used a few different people's work to create their product and never fully owned all the rights to it.

That old lawsuit seems to indicate that Amaretto's defense for infringement was that Ozimals never owned the rights so they had no right to sue. What we don't know is if Amaretto later bought those rights or why Ozimals didn't (or couldn't).

Either way, I bought bunnies, I bought food, now I have hundreds of useless items that I would not have invested in if I knew Ozimals was using someone else's intellectual property. I think it won't be much of a stretch for someone to file a class action suit against them. They should have worked this out years ago when they were making truck loads of money.
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...*snip*...This isn't an attempt to start a war between you and Aki on SLU, it's more of an attempt to prevent one.
Its a war that one side has already won, with a tactical nuclear strike, by the looks of it. I don't think there is much of an argument left to be had.

Would be lovely to get an explanation from the "glorious winner" though, if they happen to be here. Lets know why they appear to be ruining everyone's day and why they are putting everyone's much loved virtual pets to sleep.

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Thanks for amending the OP Cris.

We don't know and may never what happened so I wish people would stop tossing the old case out there . In an in world group some were screaming for boycotts, stupid.

I haven't seen a tie from the old case to the recent Ozimals blog post on the matter, did I miss one?

What **IF** this latest was because some creators weren't paid what they expected-- you want people to get paid for work, right? How much is the snarly question.

Rarely is there a winner , except the lawyers.

The bunnies , if Time pieced, live on. That's a nice gift.
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I haven't seen a tie from the old case to the recent Ozimals blog post on the matter, did I miss one?

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Edward Distelhurst who created some of the breedable scripting and his original copyright suit and settlement with Ozimals was the basis for the Amaretto vs Ozimals being dismissed.
It concluded that Ozimals was not the copyright holder of the scripting but merely

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Its a war that one side has already won, with a tactical nuclear strike, by the looks of it. I don't think there is much of an argument left to be had.

Would be lovely to get an explanation from the "glorious winner" though, if they happen to be here. Lets know why they appear to be ruining everyone's day and why they are putting everyone's much loved virtual pets to sleep.

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I meant a war here on SLU. Both parties involved are current SLU members. You've been around long enough to have at least witnessed one or two of the epic blow ups.

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Thanks eku but l don't see why the horses are getting drubbed in current issue, whatever it is.
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Thanks eku but l don't see why the horses are getting drubbed in current issue, whatever it is.
Yeah me neither. I think there is rife speculation about who did what, like there always is.

I also think it was rather unprofessional for Ozimals to have posted the details of the take down request, naming names without going into detail about why the takedown request was filed and why they were not going to pursue with a counterclaim.

What they did IMO was just point fingers to deflect any fallout from Ozimal breeders away from themselves and onto the people they named.

I reserve any other judgement because without knowing what actually went down and why, speculation is just stupid.
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