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Old 12-02-2016, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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RIGGED Game Establishments-How they do it!

Hey all, new here but not to SL. Been a resident in there since 07. I want to throw some attention to the game parlors, and how they are cheating residents out of winnings or just out of their hard earned lindens. If you don't play games in SL, don't bother reading this. It's going to be a LONG RANT.

RANT DELETED BECAUSE I WAS TOLD BY SENIOR MEMBER THAT NOBODY GIVES A FUCK. MOVE ALONG...THESE ARE NOT THE DROIDS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR...

Just to cover my ass I will say that this is pure theory...from someone who spends way too much time playing dumb games.

I can tell you how Vegas cheats people too, but the odds there are better than in SL that's for damn sure and that is sad

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Old 12-02-2016, 11:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for that, I got a good chuckle out of that But for real I was fine with owners hiring or being hookers in their establishment in order to offset some cost/losses...at least they were performing a .....service? haha
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I called out Moo Town so I should probably say that MOST game places do the same things...and at least the odds are better at the above mentioned place, so I'm not coming down on them specifically but really 95% of places. If I ever find an honest game parlor I play there. Sadly they don't last very long.
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Tip to win random money in these places...Talk in local chat..just blather like an idiot. I've had some luck winning like that
This "blather like an idiot" strategy is the basis of my entire Second Life career.
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The topic I want to read is:

ROLLED: Hookers - How they do it!

I want to throw some attention on hookers, and how they steal your wallet instead of honestly honoring the contract you negotiated for a ten-dollar hummer. I have seen it all, because I have been soliciting prostitutes every payday for the past ten years, and they keep cheating me over and over no matter how many times I try to find an honest hooker ...
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ROLLED: Hookers - How they do it!

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The question is are hookers rolled on the thighs of virgins .. or are they machine rolled...
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Old 12-02-2016, 07:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ya know...I've enjoyed the jokes here but hmm, maybe my expectations of this site were a little off. I can't tell if everyone here are just goof balls by nature and this is harmless fun, which would be fine...or...If I'm being mocked for being a gamer and giving a shit about something that nobody else does? It's hard sometimes to know on the internet the tones behind something. I laughed at all your jokes, but I just lost a lot of lindens today because of cheating and when I say a lot I mean thousands, so a little bit of seriousness might be cool...but then again I honestly don't care. I am a gambler, but I don't play online poker tournaments anymore because I was spending too much time and money on it...So yeah, I play stupid games in SL to keep myself entertained. I can appreciate the gambler's anonymous joke although it seemed mean spirited...If I said I had a gay sex addiction ya wouldn't put up a Gay sex anonymous number would you? No, because that would probably lead to more hook ups...yeah I forgot my fucking point...I had one but alas I forgot. Make jokes I don't care...I did preface the post by saying that if you don't play games this topic probably isn't for you...It's not like I expected a pat on the damn back or a thank you..I figure there are gamers lurking around here and maybe exposing these bastards and their tricks and cheats might save somebody the BIG LOSS I suffered today ...peace out folks...
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you said it in your original post "If you don't play games in SL, don't bother reading this. It's going to be a LONG RANT." and also this "First let me say that I know not all here give two shits" I would go as far as most here would say NO FUCKS GIVEN !
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Yeah, okay. No fucks given? So are you a deity then? Do you know for fact that no gamers read these forums? If it's true may as well delete this thread..The hooker jokes were gold though and I needed to laugh, so thanks for those haha Any true gamers who do give a fuck can hit me up inworld MalsFirefly. Trolls can fuck off...

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Ya know...I've enjoyed the jokes here but hmm, maybe my expectations of this site were a little off. I can't tell if everyone here are just goof balls by nature and this is harmless fun, which would be fine...or...If I'm being mocked for being a gamer and giving a shit about something that nobody else does? It's hard sometimes to know on the internet the tones behind something. I laughed at all your jokes, but I just lost a lot of lindens today because of cheating and when I say a lot I mean thousands, so a little bit of seriousness might be cool...but then again I honestly don't care. I am a gambler, but I don't play online poker tournaments anymore because I was spending too much time and money on it...So yeah, I play stupid games in SL to keep myself entertained. I can appreciate the gambler's anonymous joke although it seemed mean spirited...If I said I had a gay sex addiction ya wouldn't put up a Gay sex anonymous number would you? No, because that would probably lead to more hook ups...yeah I forgot my fucking point...I had one but alas I forgot. Make jokes I don't care...I did preface the post by saying that if you don't play games this topic probably isn't for you...It's not like I expected a pat on the damn back or a thank you..I figure there are gamers lurking around here and maybe exposing these bastards and their tricks and cheats might save somebody the BIG LOSS I suffered today ...peace out folks...


If you had done a search on the forum you would have seen just how often this subject comes up. It's old news to most of us.
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Some people say the way to correct someone sometimes is not to tell them "no", but offer an alternative. So I will offer one.

Mal, you should go play Four Kings Casino. It's free and the challenge is to keep as many chips as possible while earning points to wear cool stuff. It isn't technically gambling but it'll give you the casino experience. No you cannot cash out money there, but you can have fun and aim to get a bunch of cool achievements.

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Mal, no joke here, if you're losing more than you can afford, get a handle on it. I don't think the GA number was a joke, because gambling addiction isn't funny in the slightest.
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I can sympathize with feeling bad about losing money, but I'm not sure how anyone can expect any sort of gambling establishment not to be rigged in some manner. Unfortunately, I missed the post before it was edited.
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Thoughts from a former game operator… For most of the approved games, it's not possible to rig the game itself. The game is set to where you have to beat a particular score to win. Over time, even with a game being mostly skill, there will be a score at which many players will win, but the house will still profit. That's the score the house uses for its games. Obviously you could set the game so high that people would almost never win, but that wouldn't be fun and you would lose players to other places with lower scores.

The place where operators can cheat is with replay and contests, by making alts win the top spots. There is one very shady system that advertises a very high percentage of money going back to players, too much to really be profitable. Every day there are massive contest and replay cash bonuses going back to players - we're talking over 1 million L$ jackpots from a low-buy-in contest. But you see the same several avatars winning most of the time. Even if only one of them is an alt, it's dramatically shifting the payback percentage from what it claims to be.

I agree that OP might have a gaming problem. I think it's perfectly possible to play games responsibly, especially in Second Life where you can play for free or even every day and spend less than $20 US per month. Yes, there are games for 20,000L$ per play, but to me it was always just as much fun to play with 20L$. Bottom line, I don't agree with lying about payback percentages -- there's no requirement to even give out that info -- but at the same time, if you are playing enough to care about the house doing a bit of skimming, to the point of starting a forum thread about it, you might want to reconsider your spending.
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Thanks Ayesha..yeah basically I was calling out all the many ways game operators cheat and contests was a big one that I mentioned, along with a lot of others. I also included ways to beat them, but I took them down after I felt like the whole topic had become a joke and when I was told nobody on this forum cares...Maybe I pulled it prematurely, maybe not. I'm not much for "sharing" so it was out of character for me to even open up like that at all, which is probably the real reason I took it down but I've seen so much cheating over the years in establishments that I finally posted a rant about it in hopes that if any gamers lurked here and wanted to know many of the ways they are being cheated when they go to their favorite game place they would at least know, and also know some tricks that are perfectly legal in order to combat the House stacking the odds in their favor. I've been playing games in SL since '07 and besides a few devastating losses and I am talking 30,000 to 50k in a single day, I've been mostly lucky. I still pay for my land with my winnings and I don't play the BIG games anymore. Somehow this topic got turned from game parlor owners cheating players some of the ways almost harassing and definitely unfriendly way to treat patrons..but instead it turned into my gambling addiction haha I'm good though, so nobody needs worry.
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Thanks Ayesha..yeah basically I was calling out all the many ways game operators cheat and contests was a big one that I mentioned, along with a lot of others. I also included ways to beat them, but I took them down after I felt like the whole topic had become a joke and when I was told nobody on this forum cares...Maybe I pulled it prematurely, maybe not. I'm not much for "sharing" so it was out of character for me to even open up like that at all, which is probably the real reason I took it down but I've seen so much cheating over the years in establishments that I finally posted a rant about it in hopes that if any gamers lurked here and wanted to know many of the ways they are being cheated when they go to their favorite game place they would at least know, and also know some tricks that are perfectly legal in order to combat the House stacking the odds in their favor. I've been playing games in SL since '07 and besides a few devastating losses and I am talking 30,000 to 50k in a single day, I've been mostly lucky. I still pay for my land with my winnings and I don't play the BIG games anymore. Somehow this topic got turned from game parlor owners cheating players some of the ways almost harassing and definitely unfriendly way to treat patrons..but instead it turned into my gambling addiction haha I'm good though, so nobody needs worry.
You brought your gambling addiction into the conversation in your first post. If you don't want something (personal) to be discussed by SLU members, don't bring it up. You put it out there, not us. Don't blame us for something you did.
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