Io Zeno

Troy stop being Emo Bear.

Quiplash

You've gotta read the comment thread from the Common.Sensible blogpost I linked to above.

Everybody appears to be threatening to sue everybody else for libel.

These fashionista histrionics are way, WAAAY better than what's on TV tonight

Io Zeno

There is no hysteria like Fashionista Hysteria.

Cristiano

Wow, see, look at the comments on that blog - it has turned into quite a fight, including the posting of one of the commenter's IP address to out them.

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* slu stuff *

Quiplash

I have an alt at Ground Zero, Minnu's skin shop, and all appears serene.
He'll be standing by with regular announcements as this story progresses....

Over to you, Lou!

Oooh we gotta get Paris Hilton on the scene with a microphone

Io Zeno

I'm posting everyone's IP address then suing you all for libel.

Hypatia Callisto

The model is Victoria 3, and its sold by DAZ , not Rendo. Danae only made the texture, and she is a Renderosity merchant.

I often flatten files at some point to make the file easier to handle, and when going to do a lightbake you sure dont want to use the texture file in layers, but I keep all my layer steps... I just end up with a whole lot of PSD files

I never use Poser to make my clothing for SL, although I have a lot of Poser clothes from my days of making Poser renders, I am quite capable of making my own clothing and model designs for SL characters in modo/zbrush/ps. Oh, and make them look photoreal too. (modo and zbrush rox hard for photorealistic texture creation - I only ever really use photosource for fabrics, usually scanned or photographed by me or the bf, or from a texture resource kit licensed for texture creation)

It is important to note that not everything on Renderosity has the same sort of license... if its a merchant resource kit, you're allowed to create your own products from it. Renderosity sells a whole lot of those as well. However, Danae's textures were NOT such a kit, and that is the ethical issue here.

I am unsure where it will all come out... technically a bake is a rendering, you've just rendered to uvmaps is all.

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Io Zeno

Especially Psyke.

Io Zeno

I think some clothing makers do some baking work in Poser/zbrush etc. I know that Neph has, she even had a tutorial on it.

Personally, I keep my layers intact on anything I may want to reuse or alter at another time and I can't imagine flattening a photoshop made skin , even if its just for my own reference in the future.

Psyke Phaeton

I have achieved the attention I required

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Quiplash

I've picked up my gear at CNN iReport isalnd, and I'm going back to hang out wearing my CNN cap. I want to see how long it'll take before they ban me

Psyke Phaeton

That sounds fun I might join in.

Hypatia Callisto

Neph has a tutorial on Lightwave. She's not using Poser for her clothes (Poser can't even bake). I know she uses Zbrush though ... we've talked on occasion about Zbrush

ps... Modo was made by Lightwave's original developers

Io Zeno

Ah, ok. I knew it was some 3d app.

Hypatia Callisto

add...

the baking is done with a figure designed for Poser and Daz Studio, using a texture made for that figure, but the figure has been exported to an app like Lightwave, Modo, Maya+Turtle, etc... and most likely this is how the texture was baked from one mesh to another.

It is easy to do, with the right tools.

Io Zeno

Also, the SL website has the Poser models of the avatar meshes to download, don't they?

Quiplash

My name is Burlap Sack, and I'm wearing system skin and hair

Io Zeno

Take pics.

Io Zeno

Man, they are really raking Tenshi over the coals over there. Go read that, Troy, if you want to know what a witch hunt looks like, jeez.

Quiplash

[23:43] You: Excuse me ma'am, CNN iReporter
[23:43] You: Could I ask your opinionon the current Minnu skin controversy?
[23:44] You: Excuse me, I'm a reporter for CNN iReport
[23:44] You: Do you have any opinion on the current controversy regarding Minnu skins?
[23:44] Woman #1: no not at this time
[23:44] Woman #1: I have not read the blog
[23:44] You: OK thanks you ma'am.
[23:45] Woman #2: i've read one of the blogs
[23:45] You: Have you? And what do you think, Woman #2?
[23:45] Woman #2: tenshi's blog yesterday
[23:46] Woman #2: right now i think that there is much information that is not available to anyone other than the two parties involved, so perhaps it's best to wait for that before having a conclusion
[23:46] You: Do you believe that these are, in fact, skins made from Renderosity content?
[23:46] You: Well said, thank you
[23:46] Woman #2: i'm not an artist nor an expert in the field, so i cannot say
[23:46] You: Woman #1, did you wish to add anything?
[23:46] Woman #2: nice shoes, Woman #1 : )
[23:46] Woman #1: I apologize I cannot as I have not read the blog and do not know
[23:47] You: Well thank you for your time
[23:47] Woman #1: thank you dancer
[23:47] Woman #1 you are welcome
[23:47] Woman #2: you are welcome : )
[23:47] Woman #1: sorry I could not help

Hypatia Callisto

Yes. Although many good skin artists OGLE the mesh. (oops I said a bad word )

I really hate having to do it though... but LL hasn't given me an exporter for the shape (or for SL builds I create, for that matter) so I don't have any choice really, if I want a skin to match my SL shape without a lot of trial and error. I found the obj on the site to be pretty unusable compared to captured geo. I use that geometry, subdivided to give me the best possible quality when doing my work on the av textures.

<- that pic is me wearing my own skin, matched to my sl shape.

meh, I hate mentioning it, probably shouldn't post it, but maybe it just has to be said anyway... just hate that people will abuse it rather than take the opportunity to make better content.

Io Zeno

So that is better than the obj files they have for download? Why? I'm just curious now, heh. I kinda doubt they care about their mesh, hardly anything to crow about, lol.

Psyke Phaeton

OK Quip I am there...

Hypatia Callisto

yeah. It has nothing to do with capturing the mesh. LL doesn't care about that, true. The problem is that when you are ripping geo, the ability to rip EVERYthing is there.

And then it depends on how honest you are...

Psyke Phaeton

[23:59] Kess Larson: itseems that you only want to know a yes or no for 2 questions
[23:59] Kess Larson: strange
[23:59] Svetlana Varriale: wo he ran out fast
[23:59] Carley Benazzi: he sure did

LOL