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Brenda Archer · 04-22-2008, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyke Phaeton

You're new here aren't you?

April 2005, actually.

Cocoanut Koala · 04-22-2008, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyke Phaeton

April 22, 2008
Organic's Mark Kingdon Flies to Linden Labs

News just dropped that Organic Chief Mark Kingdon has flown the coop to join Second Life developer Linden Lab as CEO. Congrats to Mark, a longtime friend of ClickZ. Here's hoping he can help marketers wrap their brains around the virtual world -- something that hasn't exactly panned out so far.

Posted by Zachary Rodgers at April 22, 2008 6:17 PM

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Are we all hoping for that too??

NO.

coco

Nika Talaj · 04-22-2008, 07:35 PM

Sooooo.... Organic, idealab (ROFL!!!), and Price Waterhouse. Looks like those who wanted LL to become less technical have their wish ... this is all pretty fluffy, pretty happyhappyjoyjoy, dontcha think?

Unfortunately, SL is pretty demanding technology. It will be difficult for M to call shenanigans if someone tries to snow him.

*ponders* will this result in all the core development for SL moving to Boston, under the former Windmark team? I could see a lot of fully vested (from an options point of view) developers in SanFran deciding that now would be a good time to leave the place to the tender mercies of the marketeers.

Maybe join Cory wherever he ends up.
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**Psyke Phaeton** · 04-22-2008, 07:38 PM

I miss Cory. Things went tits up after he left. I wonder if it's related.

**Psyke Phaeton** · 04-22-2008, 07:57 PM

WOMMA Mark Kingdon, Organic on Technorati

Persephone Milk · 04-22-2008, 08:56 PM

I would like to hear from Philip why he feels like this is a good choice. This seems like the kind of a guy that you would hire for a marketing position, or for reaching out and developing partnerships with other businesses.

I find it odd that he has no technology experience whatsoever. Perhaps this can be a good thing (especially if you don't want the CEO second guessing you). But it seems to me that the most significant problems that Linden Lab faces is in the area of scaling it's technology and making it more accessible.

It has never been about bringing in more residents, or more businesses. They get here; they don't get it; they become frustrated; they leave. What is he going to do about this?

**Psyke Phaeton** · 04-22-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Persephone Milk

I would like to hear from Philip why he feels like this is a good choice. This seems like the kind of a guy that you would hire for a marketing position, or for reaching out and developing partnerships with other businesses.

I find it odd that he has no technology experience whatsoever. Perhaps this can be a good thing (especially if you don't want the CEO second guessing you). But it seems to me that the most significant problems that Linden Lab faces is in the area of scaling it's technology and making it more accessible.

It has never been about bringing in more residents, or more businesses. They get here; they don't get it; they become frustrated; they leave. What is he going to do about this?

Pretty words and shiny is cheaper than hardware.

Ten · 04-22-2008, 09:12 PM

Well, you only have to worry about hardware if you're running off to party with Bill Clinton and need the extra booze cash.

Maybe this guy will be a little honest too. Am I hoping too much?

**Beebo Brink** · 04-22-2008, 09:49 PM

Marketing = honesty

Why, yes, of course, I can see the strong connection.

Steve Steed · 04-22-2008, 10:18 PM

LOL I just got a kick out of this off line /msg sent by email

Quote:

The object 'Second Life' has sent you a message from Second Life:

M Linden has come to visit.

= Second Life is owned by Steve Steed

I am laughing my ass off.

**Psyke Phaeton** · 04-22-2008, 10:20 PM

I met M Linden! Well, sort of… lol « Grid Expectations
asleep on the job on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Predreus · 04-22-2008, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summer

Maybe he is related to Q being M and all. They do look similar.

I was thinking more along the lines of him being a James Bond Fan.

Khamon · 04-22-2008, 11:55 PM

And now in our encouraging and hopeful news category, the realXtend team will be hosting a meet and greet on Arkala Island of Innovation tomorrow, Wednesday, morning beginning at 5am PST. Also HiPiHi is conducting an open beta while the Metaplace and Vastpark projects are conducting stress tests.

The future does indeed look bright on the virtual front today.

prinţesă nină · 04-23-2008, 12:52 AM

argh

Quote:

Originally Posted by reuters

Kingdon added that he plans to “magnify the very best” of Linden Lab’s quirky corporate culture, which currently allows employees to choose which projects they want to work on.

“But, I also believe that in highly creative, innovative cultures, that people have to be voluntarily aligned with a direction. As much as possible it’s essential that they choose their focus,” he said.

Reuters/Second Life » Linden Lab picks online marketing executive as CEO

Beezle Warburton · 04-23-2008, 12:55 AM

Buzzwords-R-Us

Lordfly Digeridoo · 04-23-2008, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walker Moore

Hmm, interesting quote:

Internet photo site helps MySpace thwart porn

Omnicom also owns a controlling stake in Millions of Us.

Which has several ex-lindens at the helm, and many former lindens working.

All very incestuous! I bet they golf.

Nika Talaj · 04-23-2008, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordfly Digeridoo

Omnicom also owns a controlling stake in Millions of Us.

Yes, M could end up leaning on friends at MOU. Which could be bad news for Robin.

It seems to me that M has nothing to lose here. CEO of LL is well outside of his most intuitive career path. If he fails, it will be within two years, and it wouldn't be because of mistakes in advertising or branding. So he would be 47, his reputation in his primary field of expertise would be unhurt, and he could return to it and create his own advertising/marketing firm, using the lessons, connections and street cred gained at LL.

Perhaps then Philip would pull a Steve Jobs and return?

*limb she's standing on breaks*

Aaron Edelweiss · 04-23-2008, 01:48 AM

Well he must be smart, since he's seen something in SL that I've obviously missed. As far as I could tell, it was wrong place as well as wrong time. SL doesn't get the focused traffic it would need to be a marketting platform. Sure, it's got a userbase, but so does the internet. Unless he puts banner ads directly in the client, chances are only a teensy tiny little bitty fraction of the userbase will ever see your marketing campaign. SL is like a horrendously ugly, inefficient, hard to navigate, internet. I'm not bitter or anything

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bilbo99 emu · 04-23-2008, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocoanut Koala

M Linden?

M Linden?

This is the wildly creative person we have now?

Well, maybe it will scare the other Lindens.

I hope.

coco

Mebbe .. just mebbe .. he's a James Bond fan?

Aodhan McDunnough · 04-23-2008, 07:28 AM

He sounds cool. At the very least he knows how to run a ship. Let Philip handle direction, let M handle the show.

Brenda Connolly · 04-23-2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbo99 emu

Mebbe .. just mebbe .. he's a James Bond fan?

He better like the right Bond.

**Humps** · 04-23-2008, 07:45 AM

THERE IS ONLY ONE M

Aodhan McDunnough · 04-23-2008, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brenda Connolly

He better like the right Bond.

To hell which James Bond he likes. I'll be happy if he doesn't look like Judi Dench.

Don't get me wrong, I love Judi and she makes a more than awesome M.

As for non-tech etc ... a lot of LL's current problems especially regarding customer service are, in my book, non-tech matters which may need someone precisely with M's kind of experience to handle.

Think back to all those policy changes and even the VAT snafu. Someone like M would have handled it much smoother.

Let Philip handle the tech.

**Beebo Brink** · 04-23-2008, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodhan McDunnough

To hell which James Bond he likes. I'll be happy if he doesn't look like Judi Dench.

Don't get me wrong, I love Judi and she makes a more than awesome M.

It's a good thing you quickly clarified that incendiary first statement. Nobody disses Judi without getting hurt.

But you're still on probation.

Khamon · 04-23-2008, 08:44 AM

She's on my short list of people I would like to meet.

04-22-2008, 07:38 PM	#54 (permalink)
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04-22-2008, 08:56 PM	#56 (permalink)
Persephone Milk Musical Alchemist Mixolydian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,844 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 1 SL Join Date: October 5, 2004 Business: Musical Alchemy	I would like to hear from Philip why he feels like this is a good choice. This seems like the kind of a guy that you would hire for a marketing position, or for reaching out and developing partnerships with other businesses. I find it odd that he has no technology experience whatsoever. Perhaps this can be a good thing (especially if you don't want the CEO second guessing you). But it seems to me that the most significant problems that Linden Lab faces is in the area of scaling it's technology and making it more accessible. It has never been about bringing in more residents, or more businesses. They get here; they don't get it; they become frustrated; they leave. What is he going to do about this? __________________ . Musical Alchemy - Fine Musical Instruments by Persephone Milk See me on SLEx, OnRez, My Blog, and at My Store

04-22-2008, 09:12 PM	#58 (permalink)
Ten Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6,918 My Mood: SL Join Date: 10/7/2006 Awards: 1	Well, you only have to worry about hardware if you're running off to party with Bill Clinton and need the extra booze cash. Maybe this guy will be a little honest too. Am I hoping too much? __________________ Shopping Cart Disco http://www.shoppingcartdisco.com THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES.

04-22-2008, 09:49 PM	#59 (permalink)
Beebo Brink Uppity Alt SLU Supporter I'm the woman your mother warned you about. Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,820 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 19 SL Join Date: October 2006 Business: Brazen Women Shapes and Skins	Marketing = honesty Why, yes, of course, I can see the strong connection. __________________ Browse http://www.BrazenWomen.com

04-22-2008, 11:55 PM	#63 (permalink)
Khamon BUY TREES MOAR1 Iz a timeout Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,816 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: November, 2003 Business: Fate Gardens Flowers and Trees	And now in our encouraging and hopeful news category, the realXtend team will be hosting a meet and greet on Arkala Island of Innovation tomorrow, Wednesday, morning beginning at 5am PST. Also HiPiHi is conducting an open beta while the Metaplace and Vastpark projects are conducting stress tests. The future does indeed look bright on the virtual front today. __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song. - Quenta Silmarillion Please Visit Our Gardens and Our Website

04-22-2008, 07:35 PM	#53 (permalink)
Nika Talaj gone Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in the home I haven't built yet Posts: 271 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 6	Sooooo.... Organic, idealab (ROFL!!!), and Price Waterhouse. Looks like those who wanted LL to become less technical have their wish ... this is all pretty fluffy, pretty happyhappyjoyjoy, dontcha think? Unfortunately, SL is pretty demanding technology. It will be difficult for M to call shenanigans if someone tries to snow him. ponders will this result in all the core development for SL moving to Boston, under the former Windmark team? I could see a lot of fully vested (from an options point of view) developers in SanFran deciding that now would be a good time to leave the place to the tender mercies of the marketeers. Maybe join Cory wherever he ends up. .

04-22-2008, 07:57 PM	#55 (permalink)
Psyke Phaeton Senior Member SLU Supporter Running 'round in Circle's Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 6,911 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 1 SL Join Date: 12-Oct-2003 Business: Psyke's Defence Systems Blog Entries: 3	WOMMA Mark Kingdon, Organic on Technorati

04-22-2008, 10:20 PM	#61 (permalink)
Psyke Phaeton Senior Member SLU Supporter Running 'round in Circle's Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 6,911 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 1 SL Join Date: 12-Oct-2003 Business: Psyke's Defence Systems Blog Entries: 3	I met M Linden! Well, sort of… lol « Grid Expectations asleep on the job on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

04-23-2008, 12:55 AM	#65 (permalink)
Beezle Warburton Senior Member Beeble Bubble Bimbo Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Darkmere Posts: 3,856 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 22 SL Join Date: October 24, 2006 Business: Cortech Enterprises	Buzzwords-R-Us __________________ In SL XStreet Apez.biz

04-23-2008, 01:48 AM	#68 (permalink)
Aaron Edelweiss Banned mmmm, coffee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hillsboro, OR, USA Posts: 430 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 1 SL Join Date: 4/4/2004	Well he must be smart, since he's seen something in SL that I've obviously missed. As far as I could tell, it was wrong place as well as wrong time. SL doesn't get the focused traffic it would need to be a marketting platform. Sure, it's got a userbase, but so does the internet. Unless he puts banner ads directly in the client, chances are only a teensy tiny little bitty fraction of the userbase will ever see your marketing campaign. SL is like a horrendously ugly, inefficient, hard to navigate, internet. I'm not bitter or anything .

04-23-2008, 07:28 AM	#70 (permalink)
Aodhan McDunnough exp(ln(Gearhead)) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 5,825 My Mood: Beer Tapper Gone Wild Champion! Apprentice : Dairy Queen Champion! SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: March 28, 2006 Business: Aodhan's Forge Blog Entries: 2	He sounds cool. At the very least he knows how to run a ship. Let Philip handle direction, let M handle the show.

04-23-2008, 07:45 AM	#72 (permalink)
Humps Senior Member SLU Supporter I refuse to edit my status Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,312 My Mood: SL Join Date: 19th May 2006 Business: Fab Pads! XBOX Leaderboard: 35^th Awards: 1	THERE IS ONLY ONE M __________________ "The Other Blog!"

04-23-2008, 08:44 AM	#75 (permalink)
Khamon BUY TREES MOAR1 Iz a timeout Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,816 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: November, 2003 Business: Fate Gardens Flowers and Trees	She's on my short list of people I would like to meet.

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