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**Cindy Claveau** · 01-12-2012, 12:52 PM

She looks a bit anorexic.

Veritable Quandry · 01-14-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

I loved that quest line so much

**Cindy Claveau** · 01-17-2012, 03:00 PM

Skyrim : 2012 - YouTube

Edav Nomad · 01-20-2012, 01:00 PM

Skyrim 1.4 detailed, PC 'Creation Kit' for mods coming soon | Joystiq

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Skyrim's 1.4 update, which is not a patch of a previous patch, should be finalized by next week and submitted to console manufacturers for certification, as well as release on PC. Bethesda also plans to allow PC users to opt-in to "beta" versions of future patches through Steam, we're guessing so the company can opt-out of launching a patch if significant issues are found.

The publisher also announced that the Creation Kit and Steam Workshop are nearly ready, and it is working with Valve and its modding community to do some final testing.

I wonder if the beta patches will be on it's own separate directory like MMOs do for public testing yet allow current characters be used on it.

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Current 1.4 update (all platforms unless noted)

NEW FEATURES

Skyrim launcher support for Steam Workshop (PC)

BUG FIXES

General optimizations for memory and performance
Fixed occasional issue with armor and clothing not displaying properly when placed on mannequin's in player's house. (PS3)
Improved compiler optimization settings (PC)
Long term play optimizations for memory and performance (PS3)
Memory optimizations related to scripting
Fixed crashes related to pathing and AI
Fixed crash in Haemar's Shame if player had already completed "A Daedra's Best Friend"
Fixed rare crash with loading saved games
Fixed issue with accented characters not displaying properly at the end of a line
Master Criminal achievement/trophy unlocks properly in French, German, Spanish and Italian
Fixed issue where dragon priest masks would not render correctly
Fixed issue where quests would incorrectly progress after reloading a save
Fixed issues with placing and removing books from bookshelves in the player's home
Fixed issue where weapon racks and plaques would not work correctly in player's house if player immediately visits their house before purchasing any furnishing.
Fixed issue where the player house in Windhelm would not clean up properly
Fixed crash related to giant attacks and absorb spells
Fixed issue with ash piles not cleaning up properly
Fixed occasional issue where overwriting an existing save would fail
Fixed memory crash with container menu
Fixed infinite loop with bookshelves
Fixed issue where traps in Shalidor's Maze would not work properly in French, German, Spanish and Italian versions
Fixed issue where transforming back to human from werewolf would occasionally not fail
Bows and daggers will display properly when placed on weapon racks

QUEST FIXES

The Unusual Gem inside the Thalmor Embassy is now accessible after finishing "Diplomatic Immunity"
In "Breaching Security", the quest token is no longer required to receive a fortune reading from Olava the Feeble
Fixed issue where Galmar would not complete Joining the Stormcloaks properly if "Season Unending" was an active quest
Fixed issue where starting "Season Unending" after finishing "Joining the Stormcloaks" would prevent "The Jagged Crown" from starting properly.
Fixed issue progressing through "Message to Whiterun" while "Season Unending" was still open would block progression for both quests.
In "Arniel's Endeavor", fixed issue where a quest journal would trigger multiple times
In "Forbidden Legend", the amulet fragment can no longer disappear after player leaves a dungeon without taking it
Fixed rare issue in "Forbidden Legend" where killing Mikrul Gauldurson while sneaking would make his corpose unaccessible
In "The White Phial", the phial can no longer disappear if player leaves dungeon without taking it
"The White Phial" will now start properly if player already has a briar heart in their inventory
Player can no longer get stuck in Misty Grove after completing "A Night to Remember"
Fixed issue where leaving Riften during "A Chance Arrangement" would prevent quest from progressing
In "Darkness Returns", a door in Twilight Sepulcher will properly open if the player leaves the dungeon for an extended period of time before completing the quest
In "Under New Management", if the player leaves the Oculory for an extended period of time after placing the focusing crystal and returns, the quest will proceed correctly
"Onmund's Request" will now start properly if player has already found Enthir's staff before receiving this quest
Fixed instance where Tonilia would stop buying stolen items and also would not give Guild Leader Armor
"Repairing the Phial" will start properly if player already has unmelting snow or mammoth tusk in their inventory
Finding Pantea's Flute before speaking with Pantea no longer prevents her quest from updating
In "The Coming of the Dawn", fixed rare instance where a quest object would spawn incorrectly on the Katariah during Hail Sithis
Fixed rare issue in "The Mind of Madness" where player is unable to equip the Wabbajack
Fixed issue in "Pieces of the Past" where Mehrunes Dagon's Razor will not trigger properly if player leaves the cell for extended period of time before activating it
"Blood's Honor" will start properly if you visited and completed Driftshade and an extended period of time passes before starting the quest.
Fixed rare issue where "Dampened Spirits" would not start properly
Fixed issue where player would be unable to become Thane of Riften if they purchased a home first
Fixed issue where killing guards in Cidhna Mine woud block progression for "No One Escapes Cidhna Mine"
Fixed numerous issues with "Blood on the Ice" not triggering properly
In "Blood on the Ice", Calixto can now be killed if player owns a house in Windhelm
In "The Cure for Madness", killing Cicero then resurrecting him no longer impedes quest progress
Fixed rare issue in "To Kill an Empire" where an NPC would fail to die properly
Clearing Knifepoint Ridge before starting "Boethiah's Champion" no longer prevents quest from starting.

**Cindy Claveau** · 01-20-2012, 01:20 PM

The CK has been "coming soon" ever since release

And I hope the beta patches don't download automatically. I never even knew I'd downloaded the one that made dragons fly backwards until it was too late.

Rage · 01-20-2012, 04:06 PM

Just dropped in to say "Dovahkiin Hideout" at Nexus. Check it out.
Dovahkiin Hideout at Skyrim Nexus - Skyrim Mods and community

**Cindy Claveau** · 01-21-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Just dropped in to say "Dovahkiin Hideout" at Nexus. Check it out.
Dovahkiin Hideout at Skyrim Nexus - Skyrim Mods and community

I downloaded that yesterday and was blown away by how huge it was. I particularly liked the fully-functional forge/smelter and the alchemy and enchanting tables.

Very well done. Unlike another mod (Breezehome 1st Wing) it doesn't make you jump through useless hoops just to get into the addition.

Darien Caldwell · 01-21-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

"Dovahkiin Hideout"

This is how old I am, popped in my head as soon as I read that:

Honeycomb Hideout Commercial - YouTube

Deson Bowenford · 01-22-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

Just dropped in to say "Dovahkiin Hideout" at Nexus. Check it out.
Dovahkiin Hideout at Skyrim Nexus - Skyrim Mods and community

Grabbed it, tried it. Love it! There are only two things.

1) Is it just me or are some of the book shelves non working in the back? Near where you find "Your story" book? Or are they simply for other things?

2) Have a room with some altars for quick Healing, curing of diseases, and blessings.

Other than those two things, I'm blown away and now trying to get the other houses to hook into it.

Rage · 01-22-2012, 04:53 PM

WIP. Bookshelves appear to be a real hassle to script. The modder was talking 40hours work just for the bookshelves.

I'm now collecting every book I see and placing them a chest for when the library is working.

With those entry doors in the Hideout, shopping has never been easier.

**Cindy Claveau** · 01-22-2012, 05:35 PM

If you read the notes left lying around by the modder, he explains what goes into making working bookshelves.

They're a real pain in the butt. I don't blame him for not going to that much trouble.

Shrines, though, would be a huge boon! I get tired of NPCs telling me I don't look well, when I can't figure out what's wrong with me.

Deson Bowenford · 01-22-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

WIP. Bookshelves appear to be a real hassle to script. The modder was talking 40hours work just for the bookshelves.

I'm now collecting every book I see and placing them a chest for when the library is working.

With those entry doors in the Hideout, shopping has never been easier.

Some of the bookshelves are working. I noticed them by the room ahead of it and now have my books in the shelves. Those work fine. The ones by the stools. (Got my Dragonborn book sitting on one in fact. Too bad it's upside down though.)

Love having my own smelter. I found myself wandering into the smithing room and seeing the forge, the workbench, the grinder and thinking to myself "Now all this needs is .... HELLOOOO!!!" (chuckle)

Dasha · 01-22-2012, 05:58 PM

A friend of mine who I work with knows I play Second Life and he told me about SkyRim. Although I havent tried itout yet, But Ashley said it is good.

Deson Bowenford · 01-22-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasha

A friend of mine who I work with knows I play Second Life and he told me about SkyRim. Although I havent tried itout yet, But Ashley said it is good.

Dasha,

It has it's good points and it's bad.

Bad:
There are a number of bugs with it that may or may not affect your gameplay. However not everyone has the same bugs and they seem to be getting stomped out more and more as time goes by.

It requires a internet connection to play and activate it with.

Good:
It's wonderfully open ended. It's a sandbox type of RPG. You can ignore the main quest for ages until you decide to go for it and then stop on it pretty much when you feel like it and wander around.

It's very moddable. There are many mod packs out now and there will be many more in the future once the Construction Kit gets released. Note that Mod packs can be installed and ran on the PC version only as far as I know. In fact what Cindy, Rage and I have been discussing is a mod pack that adds a basement to the houses for example. There have been a number of them released (Enhanced and better graohics, textures, and others for example) and almost anyone can make them.

You would need to decide for yourself. I for one accept that there are flaws but the game is getting better and I love being able to do what I want when I want.

Your Mileage may vary.

Beezle Warburton · 01-22-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deson Bowenford

Dasha,

It has it's good points and it's bad.

Bad:
There are a number of bugs with it that may or may not affect your gameplay. However not everyone has the same bugs and they seem to be getting stomped out more and more as time goes by.

I highly recommend getting the PC version. You can work around a lot of the mission bugs with the command line, (which isn't possible from a console). This plus mods, etc.

Beezle Warburton · 01-22-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deson Bowenford

Grabbed it, tried it. Love it! There are only two things.

1) Is it just me or are some of the book shelves non working in the back? Near where you find "Your story" book? Or are they simply for other things?

2) Have a room with some altars for quick Healing, curing of diseases, and blessings.

Other than those two things, I'm blown away and now trying to get the other houses to hook into it.

Okay, I have a quick question about the house add-ons. Are those persistent after patching the game? I'd hate to store all my stuff then lose everything in an update.

TatianaDokuchic · 01-22-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Beezle Warburton

Okay, I have a quick question about the house add-ons. Are those persistent after patching the game? I'd hate to store all my stuff then lose everything in an update.

They should be but with any mod you are introducing some level of risk.

The 2nd house mod that I tried (for Proudspire Manor) had a bug in it that only popped up 24 hours of game play after you installed it. It broke the save function which really sucked. I should have read the mod comments more completely and I would have discovered that people were already having problems with it. Anyway, I went back to a previous version and didn't lose anything except that 24 hours of game play. And, of course, I found a new mod that I installed for the same house - lol.

Edav Nomad · 01-23-2012, 02:40 PM

I don't have the PC version of Skyrim but I thought these were some good mods. Included is one where you can make a leather map of Skyrim using three leathers. More features are in the works for the map including different maps scattered throughout the game and sold at city general stores, with higher-quality versions being available at a higher cost.

GameSpy: Make Skyrim Play Like Real Life with Realism Mods

**Cindy Claveau** · 01-23-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deson Bowenford

You would need to decide for yourself. I for one accept that there are flaws but the game is getting better and I love being able to do what I want when I want.

Your Mileage may vary.

I have had incredibly few bug encounters and I'm currently on my 3rd playthrough.

The worst one was when I had already talked to Jarl Ulfric's steward about joining the Stormcloak rebellion before I finished the quest where you have to bring the two leaders to the peace table.

But I solved that one easily by using the console code to advance that quest one step to fool Ulfric into thinking he'd already agreed to meet with the Empire

Once I'd finished the big main dragon quest, I was able to go back and do the civil war quest line without an issue.

Warning: Once you start playing and kill your first dragon, you're hooked. There will be no turning back.

Deson Bowenford · 01-23-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

(snip)

Warning: Once you start playing and kill your first dragon, you're hooked. There will be no turning back.

I know the feeling. Right now, I stopped the main dragon quest after talking with the Graybeards and am happily wandering around exploring and finding places to visit, caves to clear out, etc. Being a sneaky archer can be a lot of fun!

**Cindy Claveau** · 01-23-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deson Bowenford

I know the feeling. Right now, I stopped the main dragon quest after talking with the Graybeards and am happily wandering around exploring and finding places to visit, caves to clear out, etc. Being a sneaky archer can be a lot of fun!

My favorite skill combo. I finished one game with that combination already and it was so much fun I'm very tempted to just make another one

I was playing my heavy armor/2h Sword warrior tonight and started wondering how she could ever do the Thieves' Guild or Dark Brotherhood quest lines without stealth. And those two quest lines are almost half the story in the game, as well as being the most fun.

I don't know if I've ever been as compelled as I was doing the DB line. Maybe I'll make an assassin - daggers and stealth instead of archery.

Beezle Warburton · 01-23-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

I have had incredibly few bug encounters and I'm currently on my 3rd playthrough.

I'm on my second character, and my wife inexplicably quit cooking again >_<

Near as I can figure it has something to do with the quest where you take a follower to be sacrificed.

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

I don't know if I've ever been as compelled as I was doing the DB line. Maybe I'll make an assassin - daggers and stealth instead of archery.

Archery + Stealth FTW.

I wish the one-handed perks worked for daggers too >_<

Even my previous character (sort of a barbarian) was sneaky. Yay for 2x damage with a warhammer

Edav Nomad · 01-23-2012, 11:52 PM

Beta test Skyrim 1.4 on Steam (if you dare) | Joystiq

Deson Bowenford · 01-24-2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Beezle Warburton

Okay, I have a quick question about the house add-ons. Are those persistent after patching the game? I'd hate to store all my stuff then lose everything in an update.

Concerning the Hideout mod and items vanishing:

About the only real glitch that seems to be happening as far as losing things is concerning the Satchels (Apothicary at least not sure about the Enchanter satchel) Apparently after a period of time they reset thus you lose everything that was in there. This probably will be fixed in the next version. In the meantime what you can do is use one of the chests for your alchemical ingredients for storage. If your feeling very paranoid, use on the chest by your bed in Breezehome. That's one from Bethesda and should be completely safe.

Forum thread for the Dovahkin Hideout is located here Dovahkiin Hideout at Skyrim Nexus - Skyrim Mods and community

Edit to add:

Glad you like the combo of Stealth and Archery. Been having a blast that way myself. There is an audio mod that I can recommend that just puts icing on the cake. It replaces the sound that a being makes when you kill them from stealth to the "Wilhelm Scream". Found it: http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3184 It's hilarious potshotting someone (or something) and hearing "aauuuaggghhh!!"

Robble Rubble · 01-24-2012, 02:04 AM

Some of the glitches are incredible, like the loops you can make with fortify restoration potions and +alchemy skill equipment.

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Cindy Claveau E=mc^(OMG)/wtf *SLU Supporter* Free's Sister Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brownbackistan Posts: 27,708 My Mood: SL Join Date: May, 2005 Client: Firestorm Blog Entries: 16 Awards: 2	The CK has been "coming soon" ever since release And I hope the beta patches don't download automatically. I never even knew I'd downloaded the one that made dragons fly backwards until it was too late.

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Rage Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 97	Just dropped in to say "Dovahkiin Hideout" at Nexus. Check it out. Dovahkiin Hideout at Skyrim Nexus - Skyrim Mods and community

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Rage Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 97	WIP. Bookshelves appear to be a real hassle to script. The modder was talking 40hours work just for the bookshelves. I'm now collecting every book I see and placing them a chest for when the library is working. With those entry doors in the Hideout, shopping has never been easier.

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Cindy Claveau E=mc^(OMG)/wtf *SLU Supporter* Free's Sister Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brownbackistan Posts: 27,708 My Mood: SL Join Date: May, 2005 Client: Firestorm Blog Entries: 16 Awards: 2	If you read the notes left lying around by the modder, he explains what goes into making working bookshelves. They're a real pain in the butt. I don't blame him for not going to that much trouble. Shrines, though, would be a huge boon! I get tired of NPCs telling me I don't look well, when I can't figure out what's wrong with me.

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Dasha Member Blakes Girlfriend Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kent, England Posts: 97 My Mood: SL Join Date: 3rd December 07 Client: Phoenix	A friend of mine who I work with knows I play Second Life and he told me about SkyRim. Although I havent tried itout yet, But Ashley said it is good.

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Edav Nomad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,852 My Mood: SL Join Date: June 12, 2003	I don't have the PC version of Skyrim but I thought these were some good mods. Included is one where you can make a leather map of Skyrim using three leathers. More features are in the works for the map including different maps scattered throughout the game and sold at city general stores, with higher-quality versions being available at a higher cost. GameSpy: Make Skyrim Play Like Real Life with Realism Mods

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