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Old 01-11-2008, 06:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Since the drama of the day seems to be drama itself, I thought I would throw together a few rules of forum conduct I usually try to live by.




No ad hominem attacks.
Just don't do it, not even in retaliation. Tossing out insults creates the appearance that you are not confident in your position on a debate. And let's face it, nobody has ever been convinced that somebody else is an idiot just because you said they were. So don't bother. All these kinds of attacks will likely do is end the open exchange of ideas.


Be willing to ignore a few ad hominem attacks.
If somebody says "You're stupid, everybody knows that gun control blaa blaa blaa" then respond to their gun control comment as if they never uttered the insult. While they did get away with an initial shot at you, it never actually helps their argument, and by rising above these attacks you may very well salvage the rest of the discussion and appear to be the one with confidence in your ideas.


Ignore people who continue with ad hominem attacks.
People who let the insults fly don't deserve your time. You don't have to use the ignore feature, but simply stop addressing them directly. If their bile contains a seed of argument that you would like to address, you can often address their points indirectly by responding to other people in the thread.

Also important. Don't TELL people you are ignoring them. That is simply a tactic intended to provoke them, which shouldn't be your goal. Instead, simply step around their posts like poo on a sidewalk so you can bring the thread where you want it to go.


Make sure you understand what the other person is saying before you reply.
Read their post carefully and try not to miss important words that change the overall meaning of their post. For example, don't mistake the words "Usually" or "Often" as meaning "Always with no exceptions at all, ever!"

If your interpretation of what somebody is saying is cartoonishly evil, go ahead and re-read their post and think it over a little more since you may well be misunderstanding what they are saying (sure, Darth Vader and Satan openly embrace evil, but most of us are just trying to do GOOD, regardless of how strongly you disagree with them.)

If you're not sure what a poster means, just ask them to clarify before you respond.


Correctly represent the other person's opinions
Once you fully understand what the other person is saying ... be honest and address what they are actually saying. Taking liberties with other people's ideas or putting words into other people's mouths is the ultimate strawman fallacy and it's very disrespectful and unproductive.


Reign in the hyperbole
One infraction becomes "a pattern of behavior." One problem becomes "the end of the world as we know it." While hyperbole can add humor to spice up a post, if delivered seriously it's a form of dishonestly. If somebody did something once or twice, simply say once or twice rather than finding colorful descriptors that imply something that isn't true.


Use block quotes
Using the block quotes not only helps everybody understand who and what you are addressing, but they demonstrate that you're willing to address their points "as-is" rather than addressing a heavily biased interpretation of their points.



Acknowledge common ground

One way to take other posters off the defensive and promote the free flow of ideas is to build on common ground. If your debate opponent makes a point you agree with, let them know about it and try to build on that common ground! You may discover that your and your bitter opponent may differ only slightly in opinion.


Be concise
Nobody likes a Wall-Of-Text, least of all when the ideas could be expressed more quickly and concisely. Remember the relationship between you and the reader ... readers pay you a complement by reading what you have to say, so you should show your appreciation by delivering your points with the least amount of tangents, obfuscation, and thinking-while-you-write.

If what you have to say is long in nature, break it up into headlined sections so your post can be easily navigated. For example, readers of this post can enjoy a solid understanding of my ideas simply by scanning the section headers!


Have a sense of humor.
There is a difference between good natured ribbing and affronts to your person. Try to be a good sport. If humor seems to ride the line between good humor and insult, tell them how you feel so they can clarify. If they intended good humor, they will likely apologize, retract, and try to make things good. If their "humor" was a veiled attack against you, they will likely be obstinate.
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/ignores this vicious, unprovoked, ill informed, dastardly, and maladroit attack by Aimee Weber in favor of making a nice cup of tea.


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It's OK to beat another forum member, but only if the post is no longer than your thumb.
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/ignores this vicious, unprovoked, ill informed, dastardly, and maladroit attack by Aimee Weber in favor of making a nice cup of tea.


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Old 01-11-2008, 07:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This was, perhaps, the single best post I have ever read on any subject EVER. I shall try harder to take it to heart.

Thank you for this.

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This was, perhaps, the single best post I have ever read on any subject EVER. I shall try harder to take it to heart.

Thank you for this.

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Aimee,

Can I use these are part of the forum guidelines, along with NO FREAKY PORN AND NO SATELLITE PHOTOS OF WHERE CORY EDO LIVES OR TALKING ABOUT WHERE TO SCORE VICODIN POPSICLES (EVEN IF IT IS FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSES!) OR TALKING SMACK ABOUT VIVA PINATA!
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but but but...


How will I ever go on without hyperbole? ZOMG!!!!111 I can't post here anymore! CENSORSHIP! AMY WANTS TO TAKE AWAY MY HYBERBOLE!! YOU ARE ALL OUT TO GET ME I HATE YOU ALL MY LIFE IS OVER I"AM LEAVING YOUARE ALL TEH EBILS> WAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!





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i'm still trying to figure out why you have rules for your thumbs
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Aimee,

Can I use these are part of the forum guidelines, along with NO FREAKY PORN AND NO SATELLITE PHOTOS OF WHERE CORY EDO LIVES OR TALKING ABOUT WHERE TO SCORE VICODIN POPSICLES (EVEN IF IT IS FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSES!) OR TALKING SMACK ABOUT VIVA PINATA!
I honestly don't know how one can follow my aforementioned rules WITHOUT posting freaky cory viocdin pinata porn.

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I do like the Aimee graphic on top of the thumb rules.
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i'm still trying to figure out why you have rules for your thumbs
How else can they be opposable if you have no rules to enable them to be opposed to?
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How else can they be opposable if you have no rules to enable them to be opposed to?

oh good point! this explains a lot about my motor skills

/me institutes rules for thumbs immediately
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oh good point! this explains a lot about my motor skills

/me institutes rules for thumbs immediately
Thank you, it is not every day that one can make an evolution joke.
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(My rule of thumb is to refrain from going after something the person can't change: history of abuse, race, etc - and only address behavior, instead.)

(I'm not always successful at following it myself, but I try.)
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AMY WANTS TO TAKE AWAY MY HYBERBOLE!!
Not just your hyperbole ... but your KIDNEY TOO!
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Thank you, it is not every day that one can make an evolution joke.
On this board?

True, it's more "mockery" than "humor", but still!

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Awesome, now when do we see Weebler's guide to posting?
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Awesome, now when do we see Weebler's guide to posting?
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Not just your hyperbole ... but your KIDNEY TOO!



((Great post Aimee ))
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(My rule of thumb is to refrain from going after something the person can't change: history of abuse, race, etc - and only address behavior, instead.)
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Also appearance. I really hate that.





Thanks for the great post, Aimee. Those should be on a popup every time you hit submit.
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*flings poo*
Oh dear, now I will have to call my good friend Poo Seller to come and clean up this mess

/glides shapely manicured finger across iPhone

Hello Poo darling!

I'm very well thank you, but I do have this teensy problem.

Yes, it's that terrible Weber woman again.

Oh would you?

Yes, that would be most convenient.

Ta Ta

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