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Old 11-07-2009, 11:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I eat vegetarians hell they are corn fed!
Humans are omnivores... inless thier idiots then their vegetarians then just just get ateup my the real humans lol
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:09 AM   #27 (permalink)
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There's not much meat in the average Filipino diet. Meat usually takes up 1/3 or less of the space on a plate.

I once tried meatless for a week and it was very bad. I have very high metabolism and digested the veggies way too fast. So I stopped doing that and made sure there always is meat with my lunch at least.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:12 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I got to admit ... sometimes I feel like I am one Thanksgiving Day turkey carcass away from going veggie. I love meat but when you can sort of see the bone outline of the living creature you're eating ... the reality kinda hits you.
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I'm with Surreal on the point of concern over factory farming, etc. In a perfect America, every meat-bearing critter we eat would be happy and free and grazing in sweet meadows of alfalfa and clover up until the day they were quietly spoken to and petted just before their carotid was severed and they went quietly to sleep while prayers were offered in thanks for their sacrifice.

But I live here, now, and have no control over the circumstances.

And I cannot be denied my Bacon. That is an issue of religious freedom!!

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If I don't have some kind of meat in my meal I feel like I haven't eaten.

You can't beat a nice bit of dead pig and unborn chicken for breakfast every morning. Yummy!
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm with Surreal on the point of concern over factory farming, etc. In a perfect America, every meat-bearing critter we eat would be happy and free and grazing in sweet meadows of alfalfa and clover up until the day they were quietly spoken to and petted just before their carotid was severed and they went quietly to sleep while prayers were offered in thanks for their sacrifice.

But I live here, now, and have no control over the circumstances.

And I cannot be denied my Bacon. That is an issue of religious freedom!!

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So agree. After a couple of years in a bit of rural France where you can get superb, local meat I actually enjoy it again. Yes, it comes at a price but a small amount, plus lots of (locally grown so very cheap or free from the neighbours) veg works for me. And yep, I know I'm lucky.

When I'm away, there are countries where I find meat totally uninteresting and tasteless so avoid it to a large extent. When I lived in Switzerland, the beef was like leather (they slaughter cows after they've been used for milk production) and the pork and veal was mainly water and generally ugh. But I could get amazing lamb from a Turkish butcher who got his (Halal) meat from Germany.

I've considered going vegetarian but what put me off was (apart from liking some meat and having a carnivorous husband and daugher) was a) I like meat in small quantities, b) my father was, um, the village butcher (!) and c) some vegan friends at university who drove me insane with their constant lecturing on everything to do with it.

One of them wore plastic shoes that made her feet stink, too, while preaching about the horrors of leather.
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I loathe people who preach about how "idiotic" vegetarianism is as much as I detest evegangelicals.

I can't do vegetarianism. My body won't process vegetable proteins properly.

But I'll be damned if I call the smartest man I know an idiot because he won't eat meat.
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I got to admit ... sometimes I feel like I am one Thanksgiving Day turkey carcass away from going veggie. I love meat but when you can sort of see the bone outline of the living creature you're eating ... the reality kinda hits you.
Same here. I love meat (and sushi, yummm!), but when it comes to meat on the bone I can't do it. I don't like wings, ribs, or anything of that sort.
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I am one of those people who, whenever someone starts with platitudes along the line of "well you'd probably be a vegetarian too if you had to kill the animals you eat" offers to get a live chicken an prepare it as long as my vegetarian friend promises to eat from it too . I have killed my fair share of fish, like my (red) meat nearly raw, love ribs and wings and picking the meat off the carcass after I've made chicken stock. Yum.

I do try to buy meat from butchers that use locally-raised animals only. I've been behind animal transports on the autobahn and they are horrible. I am especially concerned about the conditions under which chickens are raised, and I have toyed with the idea of getting my own chickens/rabbits if I ever have enough space for that. I'm not sure I could kill them off after caring for them for so long, though.

Unless I'd get geese. Geese are evil and horrible creatures.
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Yes, geese are evil fuckers, and greasy to boot.

Whenever I buy meat, I like to know its provenance and that it hasn't been produced in some sort of hideous battery fashion.

I don't eat red meat particularly often (if we're excluding bacon here), but I couldn't give up my omnivorous tastes under any circumstances.
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I eat vegetarians hell they are corn fed!
Humans are omnivores... inless thier idiots then their vegetarians then just just get ateup my the real humans lol

We could use more people with your gravitas in SLU *fucking gigantic alfieface*
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I have been a semi-vegetarian for a long ass time. I haven't eaten red meat for like 15 years or so. I do eat some turkey and some fish, maybe a couple of times a week.
If I were rich I would be fully vegetarian and maybe vegan.
I hate cooking , so that makes things tough.
I used to love to buy ready made things at the health food stores when I had money.
But, that's out now.

I am one of those vegetarians that don't eat many veggies. I love veggies, I just hate cooking in any way.

I think I will just give up and eat Peanut Butter and Jelly forever. That's easy AND cheap
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I loathe people who preach about how "idiotic" vegetarianism is as much as I detest evegangelicals.

I can't do vegetarianism. My body won't process vegetable proteins properly.

But I'll be damned if I call the smartest man I know an idiot because he won't eat meat.
Then LOATH me you damn filthy ape!!

btw I'll be eating the flesh from your bones are you die
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I don't each much meat and when I do, it's usually poultry.

Personally, I think it should be a give-and-take. We should provide our food animals with shelter, food and a painless death, protect them and their offspring from predators, keep them healthy and stress-free and treat them with some respect - and in return we get to eat them.

So... long range animal transports and mass animal farming are something I could do without.
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Then LOATH me you damn filthy ape!!

btw I'll be eating the flesh from your bones are you die
Someone is a few sandwiches short of a picnic here . . .

Back on topic: Meat. I eat it.

Without meat, tacos just aren't the same.
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I have been wondering about the ethics of eating meat and how others who may have considered this address the issue. To me, there are a multitude of reasons not to eat meat: the suffering of animals, especially on industrial farms; environmental concern ranging from waste management to deforestation; the questionable quality of meat from animals that are routinely dosed with preventative antibiotics and hormones; the health effects of a diet heavy in red meat. The reasons for eating meat are fewer, although perhaps more emotionally compelling (/sidesteps the use of the word "visceral"): meat is a good source of cheap protein; humans are designed to eat meat of some form; and meat is part of most people's beloved dishes and traditions.
As a vegetarian it was pretty easy for me to give up meat and not something I've missed at all. I was vegetarian for a number of years as a teenager and only at the beginning of this year did I make the concsious decision to return to that and pretty much for all the reasons that you mention above Arilynn. I don't miss meat and I've never really particularly enjoyed it when I did have it.
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Someone is a few sandwiches short of a picnic here . . .

Back on topic: Meat. I eat it.

Without meat, tacos just aren't the same.
You keep the bread and veggies... I'll be eating the good stuff ;-)

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I eat meat, but I'm often concerned about the provenance of meat and especially the methods used to kill it - Too much meat is produced without due concern over how much the prey has been played with before despatch , the scent of fear is an essential ingredient in making meat nommy .


As to vegetables, I will occasionally eat meat flavoured cereals

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Meat on the bone doesn't bother me. We raised chickens when I was a kid and for a long time I was the one who killed them. I've also hunted and fished. I've never had any illusions about the cost of meat - or for that matter the true cost of food since we had a large garden growing up and I worked my butt off.

Meat at every meal isn't sustainable with our population, but then neither is most of the developed world's lifestyle. I do my part and try to avoid fanatics of all stripes.

Which brings me to a question I've long pondered. The PETA people who used to throw paint on fur coats... You never saw them throwing paint on the leather jackets of motorcycle gangs. Where is the courage of their convictions?
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Which brings me to a question I've long pondered. The PETA people who used to throw paint on fur coats... You never saw them throwing paint on the leather jackets of motorcycle gangs. Where is the courage of their convictions?
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I got to admit ... sometimes I feel like I am one Thanksgiving Day turkey carcass away from going veggie. I love meat but when you can sort of see the bone outline of the living creature you're eating ... the reality kinda hits you.
The only time I've really felt that way is when eating whole lobster or crab legs. I love the taste of both. But pulling apart a lobster or examining the joints on a crab leg kills my appetite, even when I resist it. I've never tried, but I'm certain I could never slaughter animals for meat unless I were starving. That never influenced my decision regarding the consumption of meat, however, as it is not a true restriction on current eating habits. I also wouldn't be the world's best wheat thresher or potato digger, but all is okay as long as there is a grocery store.
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Which brings me to a question I've long pondered. The PETA people who used to throw paint on fur coats... You never saw them throwing paint on the leather jackets of motorcycle gangs. Where is the courage of their convictions?
Cows aren't cute animals like YT.
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