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Decadent

To other people, my arms sometimes appear to be sticking out of the sculpted arms on a Cubic Effect dress. On my screen, it looks perfectly sized, positioned, etc, but I've had at least two people mention my big-ass arms to me.

What some people see:


What I see:


It seems to be an issue only with people who aren't zoomed in tight (which is everyone but me), but it's irritating all the same. Is there anything I can do to fix it, short of just not wearing sculpted sleeves?

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This sounds like a level of detail issue: when the prim has less detail, either because of viewers' settings or their distance from you, your arms poke through. People may be seeing this because they have their object detail sliders turned down, or the prim itself may just have an LOD that doesn't work well with your arms.

What can you do? Very little, I'm afraid, since you can't control the settings other people use. Making the sleeves a bit larger will probably help. If you want to check how your arms look with less detail, go to Preferences > Graphics, and turn down the object detail slider. You don't have to crank it all the way down -- anyone who keeps the slider down that low knows what they're getting into -- but give it a nudge or two and see what happens.

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Decadent

Thanks.

I'm not too bothered if it's just a difference with settings, in that there's nothing I can do (short of making the prims a tad larger, which I did). I'd just hate anyone with the same settings as me to be seeing it and think I'm just a 'tard that doesn't know how to modify prims to fit.

MadamG Zagato

Decadent,

Are these clothes you make? If so, you can always use the same invisimprim that you use with shoes. Try placing a small one where the problem area is and see if that helps. Depending on the location of the area, it could make it better ...or worse. LOL

Also, it may make a difference where it is attached kind of like with skirts (pelvis, spine, stomach, etc.). Depending on the position of the sleeve it could be attached to either the shoulder or the upper arm. When you move you see a difference in the way the attached prim behaves in reference to your avatars body. Perhaps that may not help you with this particular issue, but it's always good to remember. Just try reattaching it to another body part (upper arm/shoulder) and repositioning it then walking around to see if it behaves differently.

I agree that adjusting your sliders as mentioned above would be a quick fix if at all possible. Save that shape as the same name as the oufit to make it easy to find in your inventory when you wear it again.

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Mourna Biziou

I errr.... I actually noticed that. I considered saying something to you, but I didn't want to be all like "GIRL! YOU NEED TO FIX THOSE ARMS, YO!"

I will say that I zoomed right in on you, and they never changed, and that I have my object detail set pretty high.

You were around when I was wearing that dress a while ago, did you happen to notice it doing that on me also?

One thing you could do would be to make your own shirt layer with just the arms, where those sleeves fall, just solid black or something. I have some glove layers I made for certain sculpted bracers that just will not cover all of my arms without making them enormously huge.

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Miriel Enfield

Okay, I take back my suggestion to enlarge the sleeves. Just do this. It's simpler and will probably look better.

Aodhan McDunnough

Any prims on av should never be tight. The LOD issue always rears its ugly head when they're tight to the skin. It's the AV's LOD (not the prims).

I wouldn't say you didn't know how to adjust it because oversizing it would have wrecked the look completely. I'd say the designer of the sculpt should have taken that clearance into consideration and allow for more at the bicep area so that the flared areas will not come out looking too large when the sleeve is sized properly.

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Decadent

I'll do the shirt thing, Mourna. (And yes, I noticed the same thing on you but only slightly -- like a couple pixels of skin poking through as opposed to my big Hulk arms.)

I'm pretty chunky -- chunkier than the chicks that these clothes are modeled with -- so I have to resize everything anyway, but I guess it doesn't make a difference here either way.

WarKirby Magojiro

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I know this. This is a bug. It's caused by clothing layers.

Parts of your clothing get stuck with an apparent looseness, even when there's no clothing covering that part. If I'm right about this, enable avatar cloth, and look really closely during these times. You should see your skin fluttering slightly in the breesze, like loose clothes do.

It may be fixed in the 1,21 RC, as I've not seen it since upgrading.

Next time someone reports this happening, ask which client they're using. Also try editing appearance, and make any adjustment to your shirt clothing layer, and save. Ask them if that fixes it. And please do post your findings here.

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Mourna Biziou

Yes!

I have seen this bug in action... when shorts actually extend themself into invisible pants and screw with shoes.

I bet that's it.

Persephone Milk

About two years ago, I reported a similar and perhaps related bug on the main forums. Ultimately, the solution for me was to write down all of my slider settings on the appearance dialog and then recreate my shape from scratch. This worked like a charm. I am not sure if the problem was ever corrected in the client, so you may be experiencing the same bug, or something related. Here is the thread if you are interested:

SL Forums - My Shape is Wrong

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Decadent

That's actually exactly what I have to do (click the "Torso" tab in Appearance) but didn't think to mention it because I've become so used to it. Since you said it fixed it for you, I'll write down my digits tonight and create everything from scratch. Thanks!

Decadent

When creating my shape from scratch, do I have to start with the default shape or can I just use some freebie one and work from there?

Decadent

Ok, so I threw on the shape from the Ruth folder, inputted my digits and I don't have to edit my appearance anymore in order to get rid of my Hulk arms. Proof is in the pudding, though, so I'm going to wear the dress tonight and see if people see the problem like they did before.

Persephone Milk

I hope this fixed your problem Decadent. Please let us know how it worked out for you.

Decadent

Recreating my shape from scratch per your suggestion worked perfectly, Persephone. I wore the dress from the OP and asked Mourna if my sleeves were having the same Hulk Arms issue - she said no.

I didn't even have to wear glitch gloves. Hopefully, if it happens again, people won't be so polite as to not mention it.