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Aodhan McDunnough · 08-22-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Miriel Enfield

I guess I can try the Domino scripts later, though I'll be honest: I really fucking hate Blender's UI. Nothing with it is easy for me. Any time I try to learn to do anything new with it, it takes me days, even if I have a manual in front of me. I've never used scripts much, and I really, really don't care to deal with the hours upon hours of frustration that it will very probably involve.

I managed to get some branches that worked (manual editing of the map plus breaking up the cylinder different), but I'll consider the scripts next time I'm dealing with something like this, if it's too hard to fix manually and there's no workaround.

EDIT: I attempted to install the scripts. The directory I am supposed to install them into doesn't exist. The directory it's supposed to be inside doesn't exist. Fuck this stupid program; I'll continue to muddle through the way I have been.

EDIT II: But thank you to everyone who's attempted to help!

It's a hidden folder. In Linux it's .blender/scripts (dot included)

Do get the Domino scripts running. It's cut my sculpty development time by a factor of 10 or more already.

Aki Shichiroji · 08-22-2008, 01:08 PM

Where were you trying to install them?

My scripts are installed in: (blender folder)> .blender> scripts.

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Installation

copy the .py files to your Blender scripts directory as listed below.

Linux: ~/.blender/scripts
Mac: /Applications/blender/blender.app/Contents/MacOS/.blender/scripts/
Windows XP: c:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender\.blender\scripts
Windows Vista: C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\.blender\scripts

- Blender Python Scripts for Second Life Primitives

Edit: Also!

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If you can't find your scripts directory, then create a new text in Blender and paste the following code into it:

import Blender
print Blender.Get('scriptsdir')

If you press alt-p ( File - Run Python Script ) then the correct directory to install the scripts will be printed on the console.

Miriel Enfield · 08-22-2008, 01:16 PM

I don't have a Blender/.blender/scripts folder for 2.46. I don't even have a Blender/.blender folder. I've got hidden files set to show, and there still appears to be nothing.

I tried putting the scripts into the scripts folders for earlier versions of Blender I'd installed, but no luck.

Aki Shichiroji · 08-22-2008, 01:24 PM

Do you have Python installed already?
I may be wrong, but I think Blender may create a scripts folder after it finds that Python is installed?

Atashi Yue · 08-22-2008, 01:25 PM

Ugh. Blender is the hemorrhoid of 3D applications. Just bleh.

Miriel Enfield · 08-22-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki Shichiroji

Do you have Python installed already?
I may be wrong, but I think Blender may create a scripts folder after it finds that Python is installed?

I know I did for earlier versions of Blender, but there's a zipped Python file sitting in my Blender 2.46 directory, so I'll try that.

EDIT: Unzipping file didn't do anything. There weren't any executables inside. Maybe I need to actually reinstall it, instead of half assedly unzipping a file I found lying around.

EDIT II: Reinstalled Python. Didn't create any folders. Seriously, I'll just stick with Levitsky's method for now.

Lo Jacobs · 08-22-2008, 02:59 PM

Jeez. I feel for you, Miriel.

Miriel Enfield · 08-27-2008, 01:32 PM

I installed 2.47, and that did come with a .blender/scripts file, so I've finally gotten the scripts working. No more noise! And it's not a hard to use so far.

Aodhan McDunnough · 08-27-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriel Enfield

I installed 2.47, and that did come with a .blender/scripts file, so I've finally gotten the scripts working. No more noise! And it's not a hard to use so far.

Speaking of which I have yet to drop 2.47 in.

Aki Shichiroji · 08-28-2008, 10:22 AM

Yaaay

Looking back, i'm still not sure why your download of 2.46 wasn't coming up with a .blender/scripts folder

I think i'm using a third party build of 2.46 though, and I'm not sure why i did that - perhaps it was because i ended up having similar issues finding the .blender/scripts folders? I'm not sure - it was a while ago.

I'm still kind of annoyed 2.46 changed texture baking somehow, and I never bothered to look up how to achieve what I was trying to do in the new version. As a result, I still keep a copy of 2.45 around for the rare times I want a bake from Blender.

Miriel Enfield · 08-28-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki Shichiroji

Looking back, i'm still not sure why your download of 2.46 wasn't coming up with a .blender/scripts folder

The only thing I can think if is that I installed from the .exe, and the installer either didn't come with those folders or decided I didn't need them. I don't know, though.

Mike1a_Brody · 10-09-2008, 01:23 PM

I had the same problem last night (scripts folder) I drug down the settings pannel, and defined the scripts folder - Saved settings as default - and was good to go. (Just make your own folder and point blender to it).

There are some great video tutorials out there using the scripts. The one that had the most impact on me was the Sculptie LOD info. That helped ALOT. I now build all my sculpties in LOD1, then Tweakk for details in LOD2 & 3.

whyroc · 10-09-2008, 03:14 PM

The scripts folder is determined when you install Blender.. it asks you where you want to store user data.. choose the other option than the default which puts the scripts in your user folder somewhere.

As for the sculpt map it looks like you have somehow broken the UV layout. I have used all the methods mentionned here.. so am pretty familiar with what could go wrong. Can you post a screen shot that shows your uv image editor window in edit mode? (purple squares or yellow dots with purple squares.

Also a possible answer.. Amanda's method involves creating a material manually for the sculptie bake.. looking closely at your original map.. is there some shading or specular turned on? make sure you are baking the texture only and not a full render.

Now I am total Blender Fanboy here but i can understand your frustration.. to be honest for these kind of hacky separated sculpties I might be tempted to try it with Sculpty paint instead.

-why

BEARintheMorning · 10-09-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike1a_Brody

I had the same problem last night (scripts folder) I drug down the settings pannel, and defined the scripts folder - Saved settings as default - and was good to go. (Just make your own folder and point blender to it).

There are some great video tutorials out there using the scripts. The one that had the most impact on me was the Sculptie LOD info. That helped ALOT. I now build all my sculpties in LOD1, then Tweakk for details in LOD2 & 3.

These tutorials helped me a ton - The blender trail … « machinimatrix

Although the computer generated voiceovers drive me nuts.

Glad to hear you got the scripts running Miriel. I like playing around in PrimBlender (especially things that mix normal prims with sculpties) as well to build things to SL scale then use Domino's scripts to create the UV for the sculpties.

Aminom Marvin · 10-18-2008, 12:52 AM

Edit because I didn't RTFT and didn't know you weren't using Domino's scripts

But yea, those scripts combined with sculpts are the best way to model sculpts period. Complete and total per-vert accuracy and representation, flawless import/export, the "compressible" option that doesn't interpolate points (so they are the smallest possible sizes), all stitching types supported, and more.

Here's a tip for how to tweak a sculpt by its smallest possible values: load a sculpt map into Blender (bake, save, and re-import first in you already have one in Blender), and set the object size to 2.55x2.55x2.55 units, and the position to 1.275x1.275x1.275. This aligns the sculpt so that the smallest gridlines represent the "jumps" in value of the 255 color values per channel. So, you can create very clean curves and straight lines by tweaking verts along the grid intersections. This method of tweaking rivals photoshop for perfection.

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whyroc Senior Member Blue Marsified Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 163	The scripts folder is determined when you install Blender.. it asks you where you want to store user data.. choose the other option than the default which puts the scripts in your user folder somewhere. As for the sculpt map it looks like you have somehow broken the UV layout. I have used all the methods mentionned here.. so am pretty familiar with what could go wrong. Can you post a screen shot that shows your uv image editor window in edit mode? (purple squares or yellow dots with purple squares. Also a possible answer.. Amanda's method involves creating a material manually for the sculptie bake.. looking closely at your original map.. is there some shading or specular turned on? make sure you are baking the texture only and not a full render. Now I am total Blender Fanboy here but i can understand your frustration.. to be honest for these kind of hacky separated sculpties I might be tempted to try it with Sculpty paint instead. -why __________________ Come visit our new City on Blue Mars, now open for preview: http://gridrock.com/ Last edited by whyroc; 10-09-2008 at 03:21 PM. Reason: more info

10-18-2008, 12:52 AM	#40 (permalink)
Aminom Marvin Notorious Griefer ffffffffffff Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 367 My Mood:	Edit because I didn't RTFT and didn't know you weren't using Domino's scripts But yea, those scripts combined with sculpts are the best way to model sculpts period. Complete and total per-vert accuracy and representation, flawless import/export, the "compressible" option that doesn't interpolate points (so they are the smallest possible sizes), all stitching types supported, and more. Here's a tip for how to tweak a sculpt by its smallest possible values: load a sculpt map into Blender (bake, save, and re-import first in you already have one in Blender), and set the object size to 2.55x2.55x2.55 units, and the position to 1.275x1.275x1.275. This aligns the sculpt so that the smallest gridlines represent the "jumps" in value of the 255 color values per channel. So, you can create very clean curves and straight lines by tweaking verts along the grid intersections. This method of tweaking rivals photoshop for perfection. Last edited by Aminom Marvin; 10-18-2008 at 01:00 AM.

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08-22-2008, 01:16 PM	#28 (permalink)
Miriel Enfield Senior Member Behold, the power of flopsy ears. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,469 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 3	I don't have a Blender/.blender/scripts folder for 2.46. I don't even have a Blender/.blender folder. I've got hidden files set to show, and there still appears to be nothing. I tried putting the scripts into the scripts folders for earlier versions of Blender I'd installed, but no luck.

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Aki Shichiroji Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,741 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 14 SL Join Date: 7/22/2006 Business: Organica	Do you have Python installed already? I may be wrong, but I think Blender may create a scripts folder after it finds that Python is installed?

08-22-2008, 01:25 PM	#30 (permalink)
Atashi Yue Meh(Tee Em) Outside the Median Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,210 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 5	Ugh. Blender is the hemorrhoid of 3D applications. Just bleh.

08-27-2008, 01:32 PM	#33 (permalink)
Miriel Enfield Senior Member Behold, the power of flopsy ears. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,469 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 3	I installed 2.47, and that did come with a .blender/scripts file, so I've finally gotten the scripts working. No more noise! And it's not a hard to use so far.

08-28-2008, 10:22 AM	#35 (permalink)
Aki Shichiroji Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,741 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 14 SL Join Date: 7/22/2006 Business: Organica	Yaaay Looking back, i'm still not sure why your download of 2.46 wasn't coming up with a .blender/scripts folder I think i'm using a third party build of 2.46 though, and I'm not sure why i did that - perhaps it was because i ended up having similar issues finding the .blender/scripts folders? I'm not sure - it was a while ago. I'm still kind of annoyed 2.46 changed texture baking somehow, and I never bothered to look up how to achieve what I was trying to do in the new version. As a result, I still keep a copy of 2.45 around for the rare times I want a bake from Blender.

10-09-2008, 01:23 PM	#37 (permalink)
Mike1a_Brody Mostly Harmless Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 9 SL Join Date: Ohh, sometime in 06 Business: 1A - Hardware Lighting, Sloundbyte, Group 216	I had the same problem last night (scripts folder) I drug down the settings pannel, and defined the scripts folder - Saved settings as default - and was good to go. (Just make your own folder and point blender to it). There are some great video tutorials out there using the scripts. The one that had the most impact on me was the Sculptie LOD info. That helped ALOT. I now build all my sculpties in LOD1, then Tweakk for details in LOD2 & 3.

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