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Old 07-03-2012, 06:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is that possible that there is a viewer which has mesh, but doesn't need any SSE2 support? Because my processor hasn't got any SSE2 support, and the official SL viewer requires that.

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Old 07-03-2012, 06:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Buy a new computer? Seriously, I think every processor since 2003 has had SSE2. If yours doesn't it's going to affect you in more than just SL.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No, there isn't any viewer made for Second Life that shows mesh that doesn't require SSE2 capability.
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even my p2 machine sitting over here has sse2 support and it's only a 450mhz processor.
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Are you sure your computer doesn't support sse2?

I have run older and cheap computers on SL.
The Compaq SR 1950nz, that I bought used in Sept 2008 for $175 has sse2! I used that one in SL from 2008 to part way through 2009.

If your computer is older than that one, then I'm afraid it is time to upgrade ;-)

Although it's always best to get a new computer that's a bit beyond what you think you need, I bet you could find a decent older machine capable of running a mesh viewer (slowly) pretty cheap. My old SR 1950 can't be worth more than $100, although I would *not recommend it for today's SL ;-) My currently in use backup computer is a Compaq SR5710 and I think it could be bought used for $250 and would be capable of running a mesh viewer on lower settings.

Are you really positive that your current computer doesn't support sse2?

Maybe it's just not working right?

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These days, i think your only choice is the rainbow viewer, which doesn't support mesh:
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Dear Robert Jung,

Thank you so much for your reply! :-)

The truth is that, I am not sure about I don't have SSE2 support now, because a software said today I have. But unfortunately, the Second Life 3. viewer won't run. :-(



Thank you very much for the computer recommending! I will look on the online shops for them. You are truth. I should upgrade.

Thanks a lot for your help! :-)


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Thank you for your reply.
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Dear Robert Jung,

Thank you so much for your reply! :-)

The truth is that, I am not sure about I don't have SSE2 support now, because a software said today I have. But unfortunately, the Second Life 3. viewer won't run. :-(

You might try to see if the phoenix viewer will run, or coolviewer, or singularity; I think that all of those support mesh and use less resources.

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Can you tell us what the name and model number of your computer is?
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Dear Robert Jung,

Unfortunately, my computer doesn't have any model numbers, but my computer's motherboard is an IBM 694X-686A, and my graphics card is an nvidia2 mx 400

Thank you for your help!

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Dear Han Held,

Thank you for the tipp!
I will try them today.

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Unfortunately, my computer doesn't have any model numbers, but my computer's motherboard is an IBM 694X-686A, and my graphics card is an nvidia2 mx 400
This sounds like a Pentium III computer. No SSE2 support, so no mesh.

I think with that old computer your only option is Rainbow Viewer, like Han already mentioned.
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Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
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Processor Intel Pentium III - S 1400MHz @ 1.40 GHz
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Processor ID GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 11 Stepping 4
L1 Instruction Cache 32 KB
L1 Data Cache 32 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB
L3 Cache 0 KB
Motherboard IBM 694X-686A BIOS Award Software International, Inc. EXE135A
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So it supports only 1.5gb of ram total, mx400 is a 64bit pci video card,

You're not going to have much luck with SL at all with the current setup.
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Are you very low on cash? As in broke?
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If you talk to the tech person at work/school, they may be able to find you a 2005/2006 era XP machine for very cheap or maybe even free. That wouldn't be a ideal machine for SL (far from it) but at least you should be able to run the viewer and walk around slowly ;-)
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Check out garage sale, Freecycle, and Craig's list, just make them boot it up for you before you buy. I sold two old computers of mine that would run SL, not great, but would run it, for $25 each a couple weeks ago, just to whittle the number of computers in the house down to four. Maybe even post an ad saying you need a working computer and the minimum specs you need, and what you are willing to pay.

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Dear everyone,

Thank you for all of the replies!

I will buy a computer.

Thank you again and Best wishes,
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New (?) computer

While an older XP could work, if you have some money to spend here is an idea of what how much will buy" good" and how much $ will buy "better":

-A "basic" lower end, new "home" computer for $350-450 will work *OK

-But- an entry level gamer computer for $550-650 with) will give you much better frame rates and the chance to move the sliders to the right ;-)

-You do not need a high end game system.

-Get a good card. If you are on a tight budget a low end end card ( 420/520 etc) could work sort of OK, but if you can afford it, the 2nd number for NVDIA should really be at least a 4 (440/540/640) f. It's much better if the 2nd number is a 5 and the number 6 in the 2nd slot (560/660 ) is what SL really wants. Any card higher than a 6 is for the experts. Get an adequate power supply for your computer and card. A quality 350 watt power supply may be OK for the lower cards but you should get a quality 500 /600/700 true watt supply for a 560. Serious folks go for 1000 watts but I doubt you'll need that ;-)

(btw I am *Not* an expert -others can give more detailed help but I hope this general info can get you pointed in the right direction)

good luck!

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Actually any of the i5 or i7 processors from the last two generations (with the Intel HD 3000 or 4000 GPUs) will run SL on medium/high settings just fine. Intel has made stunning improvements.
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Dear everybody,

Thank you for the help so much!! :-)
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Actually any of the i5 or i7 processors from the last two generations (with the Intel HD 3000 or 4000 GPUs) will run SL on medium/high settings just fine. Intel has made stunning improvements.
I'm very skeptical but I'll take your word for it. Personally I'd just assume try to get an nVidia or ATi.
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I'm very skeptical but I'll take your word for it. Personally I'd just assume try to get an nVidia or ATi.
I was really surprised when I started seeing the benchmarks for the Intel HD 3000s, and didn't expect it to work in real world, but having used one in my last-gen MacBook Air for about a year it was more than acceptable. The 4000 series is even better; I have one in my current laptop, but this also has an nVidia 650M so I haven't yet needed to try out the Intel card.
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