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Old 05-12-2012, 01:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lumiya for Android adds 3D view support

Lumiya has just released an update which adds support for viewing SL in 3D on an Android phone or tablet. This initial release is very limited, there is no support for sculpts or meshes, but it is still a great advance. And judging by the rate at which new versions are coming out, we will see major improvements soon.

Update: sculpts are supported.

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Old 05-13-2012, 01:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am really impressed, since this is the first native viewer for a mobile platform ever which delivers this kind of feature, something even Linden Lab has failed to do until today!

They had their web streaming beta with the render cloud back then in 2010, but shelfed it away it seems and they have been neglecting iOS/Android until today so far!

So this is really breaking news to me and something Linden Lab should have pulled up instead!
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Lumiya is the first time I sprung for a paid application and I was not disappointed. No subscription model.no need for me run a desktop server for it, etc. The ultra-low frame rate says more about my non-state-of-the-art phone than anything. As the web site says, it's enough to make me not feel blind. I can chat, I can listen to a stream, I can see what friends are on (though a radar would be nice, but it's hardly critical) and that is enough to convince it was worth the purchasing.

As far as I am concerned, Lumiya "fails to suck."
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Looks like my next phone will be an android unless iOS gets some TPV love.
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I tried this out and yeah, it is pretty cool. On a related note, has anyone tried JIBE? It is not SL but it is a 3D virtual client. I think it just connects to a single small region. You pick avatars from a basic ore defined set. If Jibe could be connected to SL, it would be pretty amazing.
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I tried this out and yeah, it is pretty cool. On a related note, has anyone tried JIBE? It is not SL but it is a 3D virtual client. I think it just connects to a single small region. You pick avatars from a basic ore defined set. If Jibe could be connected to SL, it would be pretty amazing.
I loved the Jibe client, but the world is probably more like Blue Mars than SL (still pretty cool. Blue Mars was cool too). Runs off the Unity gaming engine. Great 3d environment, but lacks on-the-go user created content. Unity is a lot of fun all on it's own too. Jibe would be great for business or education teams with their own world developers though. Or a really small online rp? I think the rate (check for yourself) was anywhere from $40-175 a month for 12-100 users and $125-1625 startup fee. Little steeper than most opensim worlds if you're just playing around.
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I tried to purchase lumiya this afternoon.. two times, the transaction fails.. but Google charged me 1 € in each operation, they haven't returned my money yet.
I want to try it , is anyone else having troubles too? I suspect that it fails because I am using a virtual credit card.
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I tried to purchase lumiya this afternoon.. two times, the transaction fails.. but Google charged me 1 € in each operation, they haven't returned my money yet.
I want to try it , is anyone else having troubles too? I suspect that it fails because I am using a virtual credit card.
I had trouble but only because the card on my account was one I had canceled recently.
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Another update just now: inventory, notecards and group notices with attachments. I'm impressed with the rate at which this is going.
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Looks like my next phone will be an android unless iOS gets some TPV love.
I'm waiting for a Windows 8 Nokia - SL is primarily built for Windows.
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Still can't get this for my Nook Tablet even though it will run Android. Nook Tablets are prevented from downloading or sideloading Google Play apps by Barnes & Noble.
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Still can't get this for my Nook Tablet even though it will run Android. Nook Tablets are prevented from downloading or sideloading Google Play apps by Barnes & Noble.
I think you have to jail break it first.
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It's called "root" on an Android. "Jailbreak" is for iPhone/iPad. :-) And it might deoend on the model-- not sure. Going to find out, though, because I am probsbly going to root my Galaxy Tab 10.1 if I can. Official support (as seems to be universal these days) is a joke.

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Old 06-14-2012, 01:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm waiting for a Windows 8 Nokia - SL is primarily built for Windows.
Windows 8 on ARM will not run Win32 apps like Second Life. It's a completely different API.

Edit: There's people dual-booting Android and Ubuntu on phones and tablets, and it would likely be easier getting Linux SL running on ARM than port Windows SL to Metro.
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Still can't get this for my Nook Tablet even though it will run Android. Nook Tablets are prevented from downloading or sideloading Google Play apps by Barnes & Noble.
If your Nook has an SD card slot, (I know the Colors do), you can install an Android build (say, Honeycomb) on an SD card and run as a generic Android tablet whenever the SD card is inserted, and as the factory Nook when you take the SD card out.

You can buy such cards already loaded, but really it's easy to do it yourself (here's one site for the Color, but there are several: AddictiveTips » Blog ArchiveInstall Android 3.0 Honeycomb and Market on Nook Color ).

The Color has a microSD slot, and rumor has it that SanDisk SD cards work more reliably in this slot than some less expensive brands.
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If your Nook has an SD card slot, (I know the Colors do), you can install an Android build (say, Honeycomb)
Let's not say Honeycomb. Let's say Ice Cream Sandwich. Friends don't let friends use Honeycomb.
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Let's not say Honeycomb. Let's say Ice Cream Sandwich. Friends don't let friends use Honeycomb.
Really? Glancing at xda-dev, I don't see a released version yet for the Nook - looks to me like it just went to code freeze today.

But hey, I don't keep up. Is Honeycomb worse than Gingerbread?

eta: but hey, their ICS build has OpenGL!
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The problem with Honeycomb is that it's a lame duck. It was supposed to be the first tablet release, but they completely redid the APIs for ICS. This is a huge problem for Android on tablets, because until ICS really gets into common usage it's running crippled. That's why N2Acards is going straight from Gingerbread to ICS. I'm surprised anyone did a Honeycomb release for the Nook.

CM9 (Cyanogen port of ICS) isn't in release yet, but I've been using the pre-release version for a month now and it's very solid.
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I really like this app, it's great for logging in and taking care of my notices and crap when I can't get on and play otherwise
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How do you read notices in Lumiya? When I click on a group name it just takes me to a chat window; I must have missed something.

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My group notices show up under "recent" in the menu. Subscribe-o notices show up in local chat.
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So do mine, but only the most recent ones. That and "too many IMs; messages have been capped". Which wouldn't be a problem if I could reach archived notices, but...

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I wish I could try it with my Kindle Fire (which is Android and will run Android .apk files). Unfortunately Google and Amazon seem to think that it's amusing to watch multibillion-dollar companies act like schoolchildren fighting in a playground, so you can't buy apps from the Google Play store on it. You can root it, but I'd rather not.

I can sideload .apk files if I have the actual files, but I don't think that the Android store lets you download the .apk file to install manually, you have to have a device registered with them. Oh, did I mention that Google doesn't recognize the Kindle Fire as an official Android device and thus it can't be registered with them?

But anyways, if I can get my hands on the .apk and sideload it, I'd love to try this out.
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As of the latest release.

I'm liking this more.
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Is being able to send group notices new too or have i just not noticed it before ?

And yay for mesh
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