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| Exactly. It is unfortunate but it happened. At the time of the change people were already on a TPV version so there was no problem other than not seeing mesh. Now if the Lindens changed the rules retroactively those versions could not be allowed suddenly and people's only option to stay in SL is using another client if they can not upgrade. Even if they can, migrating to another client is not a painless option, especially for non-technical users. For many in the cannot-upgrade-or-change category that is not an option.
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| In regard to mesh...I understand that it brought about some fundamental changes to the rendering engine, so I suppose that it is not possible to add a simple on/off switch to disable mesh completely, for those who are unable to use mesh viewers. That said, I wonder why Phoenix in its mesh incarnations would make computers crash. Is this not simply a sign of code that is in need of further debugging or other means of stabilising? I really do not know, so I am curious... |
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Wither or not that would comply with recent ToS changes, I don't know. | |
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On Monday I'll check what the usage of the pre-mesh version still is and see if its worth justifying an update. As of last week (week before that really), about 75% have so far updated to 1600 from 1185, which is still within the typical slow update adoption rate for Phoenix. Last edited by Kadah Coba; 03-06-2012 at 11:39 AM. | |||
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Since the code is so integral probably you would need to fork each of the 1.x viewers into mesh viewers and nonmesh viewers and test all future releases on both branches. Which would be more than a headache than it would be worth with users being urged onto the 2.x and 3.x code base now. | |
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| Although a pretty minor component. Since the introduction of mesh I have only encountered it on the grid 3 times. An avatar with a sign saying it was mesh, a builder that created a test object, and a store selling some mesh clothing I was only in because I was talking to some friends who went there. |
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![]() I had to wait a few months for the available networking at my building to catch up to what I needed. When I did SL was the 2nd thing I did on the connection (1st was a speed test) and, yes, I remembered my password. Last edited by Kara Spengler; 03-06-2012 at 05:45 PM. | |
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And certainly mesh petites are very popular. | |
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And we're constantly merging newest Linden renderer into upcoming release, although it has its problems so far, serious problems, which are holding us back. The tough ones are upstream bugs and not our own. I'm fairly certain something is being done in CoolVL/Phoenix too, so you might see tolerable performance with current CoolVL and upcoming Phoenix too. | |
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Soen, the problem with that is that there -are- some bells and whistles that I've only seen in Phoenix/Firestorm. For instance, having both the sim-wide radar and being able to not have my AV 'look' where my camera is pointing. The first one I need as an officer of the sim I'm regularly at. I like being able to TP to a troublemaker rather than have to hunt for them. It doesn't happen often, but when I need it, I need it 'now'. The second one annoys me no end. I HATE my head bobbing to a fro. I hate it more than canned vegetables. So much so I decided that the trade off for the true online status was worth it. There are others, to be sure, but those two spring to mind and were largely responsible for me going back to Phoenix after the Emerald debacle. Well that and LGG joining Phoenix.
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