Lord

The code is open for anyone who knows what they are looking at or for...and they have stated the concerns and measures they have taken to try to lessen fears...in the end, unless your a programmer yourself and have taken the time out of your busy day to go code hunting in it, finding anything criminally wrong with any of the viewers be it LL's or a TPV's is going to be a happenstance affair.

Use of any viewer is contigent upon what the individual users threshold is on trusting someone else putting code into their computer. Some viewers have been around longer than others and have built up a user base that have faith in that viewers developer(s).

Even so, that doesn't mean that a viewers code is benevolent, as the Emerald Viewer fiasco proved. So, it really comes down to how much risk are you prepared for ? If it turns out that a viewer is not as nice as originally percieved, have you taken the appropriate measures to reduce your risks in the possibile eventuallity of a corruption in the viewers purpose ?

Inhandra

While speaking to someone today, they mentioned a friend of theirs suggested this viewer. I thought this was interesting, because when I mentioned it somewhere else all I got were a bunch of blank stares. Then they reminded me that most of his "circle" is involved in a CCS sim, where "a few" of them use it. Apparently use of this viewer IS indeed spreading.

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Inhandra

I don't quite get why this is funny. If someone uses it a couple times and suddenly they lose all their money or their account logs in naked with no inventory, then the viewer won't take off, will it? All of us can't look at code and know if something is relatively safe, we have to watch the people jumping in first.

Ann Otoole

Hey Clix just wondering about your stake in SL. How many regions do you own? I.e.; if you have something serious to lose then the trust level escalates rapidly.

What is your relationship with Insilco? If you are involved with privacy invasion systems and spyware then people will ... well the usual.

Any viewer that has all the useless bloat ripped out and is secure is likely superior to anything LL could ever excrete.

Ann Otoole

People put crap like Yahoo IM on their computer. Interesting how busy that constantly busy connection set to some "Yahoo servers" are even when not in use. And Yahoo IM is used to deploy malware via the mandatory spam system on the bottom bar.

They just think it is safe because Yahoo is a really big company.

Romana

I tried this when I saw the 64-bit version. Downloaded both installers in order to see if there was a difference in performance. Installed the 64-bit ine, went to install the 32-bit one, and it told me it was already installed. So it would appear it's only the installer that's 64-bit.

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Inhandra

That makes no sense at all.

Lord

Sorry Inhandra, but you made it sound like you were surprised anyone was using it, that it was indeed spreading, though not like a wildfire.

Karen

Ugg its on the 3.0 viewer. I tried it for 5 minutes with windows opened all over that I could not get rid of. back to Cool VL for me.

Inhandra

Oh, no, that's not quite what I meant. I meant it more as in, I didn't know of anyone using it to know if they had experienced oddities or problems. Knowing that it's amassing a userbase does inspire a bit more confidence than if was used by a very, very few.

ShrugDangle

The Exodus 64-bit version is still a 32-bit executable, it's just compiled with large memory support.

Under 32-bit Windows, 32-bit applications can only access 2GB of memory by default.

If you have a 64-bit version of Windows, 32-bit applications can access a full 4GB of RAM but only if they're compiled as "large address aware".

So the "64-bit" version of Exodus is really just the 32-bit version compiled to see a full 4GB of RAM.

ShrugDangle

Oh yes and I almost forgot, the Exodus folks left us a Christmas message, it looks like they'll have a new version out (with the FUI yay) before the end of the year:

Exodus Viewer

Inhandra

That makes sense, thank you.

I might have to give it a run when they release it.

Inhandra

Ok, so maybe my previous post was hasty.

Using the new NaCl lately, I'm seeing more and more "Exodus" appear over people's heads. Well, this prompted me to go back and look at it again. I mean, really look. That includes the blog post I had merely glanced over linked above.

Oh my God. I didn't realize the amazing things going into / already in this viewer. I WILL by trying this when they issue their update.

That new chat input bar? Amazing. Redraw button? Amazing. They also appear to have hand-crafted their own console-esque chat, which looks good even if I personally wouldn't be using it.

Romana

I didn't wait for the update (needed a replacement viewer pronto) and even without the upcoming goodies I can say I'm impressed. I just hope people who see Exodus over my head won't assume I'm looking for combat. :-O


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Sonja Aeghin

I'll be grabbing the update as well. Exodus runs quite well performs better than other viewers despite my older hardware.

Quiplash

I'm curious as well, and I will probably install tonight. I'm getting good performance with Firebird, except for an annoying bug where it won't let two of my avatars load (and I have to go back to SL's V3 viewer to use them).


I have read (I forget where) that the Exodus viewer really excels at large-pixel-format photographs, can't wait to try that out.

Romana

I haven't had much time to poke around the settings yet, and intend to do so, but if anyone can point me to the part where I can tell this viewer not to announce in local whenever anyone enters the entire region I'd appreciate it. Thx

Ashiri

I was also looking to mute the constant chat. I can see how that would be handy for combat in SL though.

Cerise

OK, it is in the sidebar. Open the gear tab, then the "Various Settings" section. Under the "Chat" heading uncheck "Message when people enter/leave the region"

Romana

I have been getting this message when I log in using this viewer:

"[Second Life]: It is delicious cake, you must eat it."

Has anyone else been getting this, and how do I turn it off?

Cerise

Why would anybody want to turn away delicious cake?

[ It appears that the cake message is the MOTD that the viewer fetches from the Exodus site. Maybe you could petition the developers to promote pie more fairly. ]

Leah Mayo

I demand pie.

Romana

LOL. Well, as long as it's supposed to do it, and it won't always say the same thing. Maybe there will be pie and chocolate too.

Jenny Adderstein

Yes noticed the Hippo viewer was removed from the TPV list, but still works with SL..

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