Latif Khalifa

Singularity 1.7 is finally here!

It brings support for wearing multiple clothing items of the same kind, which is especially needed for having multiple alpha layers that many mesh clothing items come with. Updated rendering engine to the latest V3, new audio engine and much more.

For details and downloads see 1.7.0 - Multi-Wear release! - Singularity Viewer

Andromeda Rage

Umm... anyone else having a hell of a time connecting with 1.7?

Most of the time, it just immediately spits out "unable to connect to Second Life" and then maybe 1 in 20 times, it will begin to login, but hang at "Requesting region capabilities..." and then, 1 in 20 times again, it will actually complete the login process.

100% clean install, separate cache, etc etc etc. No problems connecting with other viewers. Am I missing something glaringly obvious?

(ETA some hours later: checked the issue tracker and it seems to be a problem others are having as well. (Issue 399))

Leah Mayo

Nope, no problems logging in here, Andromeda. Everything works smoothly for me.

Thanks for the update!

Gabriell Anatra

I connect fine and performance is noticeably better than the 1.6.0(3) release but it really likes to crash on tp.

I have figured out that if I close everything but the landmark panel it's much less likely to crash, but it's still crashy. And if I have Inventory or the map open it's almost 100% likely.

Lord

Cool VL Viewer is also porting the 3.3 render code and Henri makes mention of some possible problems with Linux and Windows XP users on his forum ( Cool VL Viewer forum - View topic - Latest Windows releases ). I have a friend who uses XP 64bit and is having a hard time with Singularity 1.7.0 (but loves and has no problem with 1.6.0.3), so I pointed her to the mention by Henri. She said that information didn't help because XP 64bit doesn't have an SP3. So I pointed her to the little parantheses that says (get it there) in Henri's post which points to a Visual C++ 2005 redistributable update that may not have been downloaded at the same time as SP3 on 32bit systems or may have been overlooked in the updates to XP 64bit. I haven't checked back with her yet to see if that helped or not. If someone else tries it, please post your experience with it ?

I have also noted that at each login that my login destination preference reverts to Last Location instead of Home Location even though Home is chosen in preferences. Does this happen on anyone else's ?

The new FMOD Ex audio engine also seems to be a bit touchy to lag and will loop more often ?

I will add the problems to the Issue Tracker if it's not just me.

Leah Mayo

Does that also happen with RLV off ("RestrainedLove" in Debug settings)? Sounds pretty much like the default RLV setiing what you are describing.

I have no problems like that with RestrainedLove=TRUE and LoginLastLocation=FALSE.

Kadah Coba

So she finally got around to using my year old port for Region Windlight support, eh?

Gomi Mfume

same problem, here.

the unable to login popup is there instantly, as if it didn't even attempt to make a connection. no variation, whatsoever.

ah, well.

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Han Held

On opensim, Region Windlight works with Phoenix.
It doesn't work with Singularity or with the beta version of Coolviewer VL Viewer.

ETA I'm wrong about Singularity -it turns out that if you've specified a preset, you can see it by selecting world->environment settings-> revert to region default.
Why you don't see it by default is beyond me --maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere...

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Argent Stonecutter

If you've specified a preset, you're saying you don't want to see the default?

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Han Held

I use the V3 estate tools to specify the windlight setting for the region. That specifies the 'default' windlight settings for the region.

Singularity doesn't seem to respect that, to see those settings when you enter the region, it appears that you have to go through the world->environment settings-> revert to region default dance if you want to see what you've specifed as the windlight settings for the region.

Kokua, Zen, Firestorm and Phoenix all load the windlight automatically.

Argent Stonecutter

"That specifies the 'default' windlight settings for the region. "

That is, the region default.

If you've specified a preset in the viewer, that's saying you don't want to see the region default.

Or are you saying that if you've already set region default, and haven't specified a preset, you have to select "region default" again?

I don't know, I long since came up with a day cycle override that I need to use because SL doesn't allow you to set nighttime gamma any more, and there's no way I'm going to enable region windlight settings... when I have people have inevitably set them too dark for me even in the daytime, let alone night.

Han Held

I'm saying that if I set a region default through the estate tools, I have to select region default (in the viewer) every time I log in to see it, instead of seeing the midday windlight setting (which i shouldn't see at all, unless it's what I've set the estate to).

Latif Khalifa

This happens on login. What if you try to teleport to some other region and teleport back? Does teleport trigger showing correct windlight?

Han Held

On my 0.7.4-rc1 standalone, teleporting between two regions (in the same estate and in different estates with the same owner) triggers showing the correct windlight. The sim is on my windows 7 desktop with .NET 4.

On my osgrid sim (OpenSim 0.7.4.dev.6ee17f5) which is hosted on a mono 2.10.8/linux vps, Nothing will happen when I TP back from another estate. When I TP back from another region in the same estate the proper windlight will start to load, but then be replaced with what looks like the environment settings-> midday settings.

Han Held

Here's what it should look like when I log in to my region (or, on osgrid, tp into it):

Instead, here's what it looks like(until I tell it to revert to the region default, pictured above):

Argent Stonecutter

OK, now I understand, the way you described it completely confused my crazy little weasel brain.

Leah Mayo

Singularity 1.7.1 is released. Download here.

Chalice Yao

*happyface!*

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Gourug

Mostly I use the LL viewer, but .........

I like to ride motorcycles in SL and the Singualrity viewer is MUCH more smoother than the LL viewer most times when I ride. There are sims that cause the LL viewer to skip and pause, freeze briefly, and next I know I'm in a river. Singualrity runs smoothly in the same sims I have trouble with, even at high draw and graphics settings.
I hope that when Singularity gets mesh compatability, that it will still be the excellent viewer it is now and continue to run smoothly.

Thanks Siana for Singularity and all the best,
Gourug

*** I just downloaded the newest version and can see mesh now. I just tried it out in a sim I have trouble with, settings at the default High setting.
All I can say is --- WOW!

Gourug

At first I was wondering how did I Agree and Like my own post, then I remembered I had hit a couple of the smilies in my own post. I thought those might have been part of the post like, but didnt see them appear.

Latif Khalifa

Singularity 1.7.2 has been released today. This release is mostly about crash fixes. It should also improve windlight experience on OpenSim.

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Han Held

Singularity appears (basing this on a test on my standalone) to view Region Windlight properly now. Awesomeness!

Now if I only knew how to set the region windlight from inside Singularity...

Cinder Roxley

This version doesn't crash on login like the last one did for me, but textures are buggered. This building should be yellow, not black:

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Gabriell Anatra

The crash on tp issue seems to be gone or at least greatly reduced as I've only crashed on tp once in the last few days. I've not run into the random mutex failure crashes either.