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Old 08-20-2010, 05:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Emerald Login Page Causing DoS Attack?

This is an interesting development in the ongoing Emerald saga:

SLOG: Emerald viewer's login page used as a Denial of Service Attack

I honestly do not understand why anyone continues to use Emerald as their client, whatever features it has.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Heard about it here first!

Query: Who posts anything on the web in 2010 and sticks all the links at the end of each entry? I started looking for footnotes.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Might as well post this here to laugh over it.

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Two weeks ago, amid an atmosphere of pride and boasting about Emerald traffic, a silly idea was hatched.

This idea was to target a blog owned by a creator of a malicious viewer, and boast of the traffic Emerald has captured. The method for doing this was to add links to the Emerald log in page linked to said blog. Each time anyone logged in, our page loaded up and also the other page loaded up – simply to show off our volume of traffic.

This was not a DDoS. This was a poor attempt at boasting that failed miserably. Once we discovered this, these links were deleted and the dev concerned was disciplined.

The entire Emerald Team offers it’s sincere apologies for concern, panic, worry, mistrust and disappointment felt by our users because of this. I can most strongly assure you that this will not happen again.

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Old 08-20-2010, 05:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As I noted elsewhere, just writing "This was not a DDoS" doesn't make it not so.

Also, the disciplining in this case should have involved completely dropping said individual from the team, and not allowing them any further access to any ModSys server or project.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This time Cris starts the Emerald thread! Will he have to stabby himself now?
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But only because you asked, Kalor.
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Heard about it here first!

Query: Who posts anything on the web in 2010 and sticks all the links at the end of each entry? I started looking for footnotes.
I put the links at the bottom as a experiment, it is to encourage that people read the whole post. There are some reasons to assume that people are more likely to read the whole post before linking away. I know I myself have gotten totally lost in other things when I clicked on a link on a blog post, and sometimes find much later I never finished the post.

Love to hear more comments about that, does it work or not, or does it work but is just to annoying?
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Hey Cris your own forum broke this story in an almost unrelated thread Conspiracy theory got trumped by conspiracy facts!

The Emerald Problem: A conspiracy theory.

Read on a few posts before the significance gets realised.
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Modular Silly now is opening a new chapter in their neverending story of destroying the work of a lot of people done for years.

Meanwhile this comedy looks like a tv show named "Hidden Camera".

This show can only cause a big

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Old 08-20-2010, 09:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey Cris your own forum broke this story in an almost unrelated thread Conspiracy theory got trumped by conspiracy facts!

The Emerald Problem: A conspiracy theory.

Read on a few posts before the significance gets realised.
Yea I was pointed here from twitter rumours, and gathered information in that thread to write the post.
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Posting it here so that hopefully Cristiano does not look in the other thread.

Chalice says that she has left ModSys. Here is hoping that she finds a project worthy of her.

(Yes, I was bad, very bad in the other thread. If
I have to be punished, can Free do the punishing part?)
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Chalice is good people. It's unfortunate that her integrity and responsibility failed to rub off on the dweebs who put themselves in charge.
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Love to hear more comments about that, does it work or not, or does it work but is just to annoying?
Mainly I find it disconcerting. When I want to keep reading an article or whatever yet bring up the links, I tend to right-click and open in a tab.

In any case, I'm not attacking the idea. I just found it a little too college essayish for my way of reading on the web.
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Criiiiiiiiiissss. Free and Jesse are lezzing out in the Emerald threaaaaadddd.
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Criiiiiiiiiissss. Free and Jesse are lezzing out in the Emerald threaaaaadddd.
So why don't you haz a Gay in the thread and make it even?
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He is probably at the "cafe", "writing" again.

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Joking aside, this whole Emerald fiasco feels like raw betrayal to me. This is more than just some geeky software app some of us tried to use and a couple of jokers in the dev house pulled a stunt. The Second Life viewer of choice is an investment of trust, and it's apparent now that it only takes one or two of those jokers to make customers feel like we can't trust anybody any more.

I'm supposed to trust a convoluted piece of crap posing as a UI that was outsourced to the Ukraine instead? I don't think so.

It makes me glad I deleted Emerald from my HD last week and installed Imprudence. I have always been and still am a supporter of Open Source - I use Gimp and OpenOffice and 7zip and Mozilla Firefox. I've had blogs on WordPress. Open Source works. But it requires that the developers and contributors take their responsibility seriously. Otherwise they risk inflicting unwarranted harm to the entire Open Source movement.

I'm so disgusted right now I can't even find the words to express my disgust.
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you guys know that Imprudence is also runned by a group of griefers that did grid wide attacks back in 2005- 2007, right?

and i'm sure LL has all sort of things we don't know but you know they are official and can never be corrupt..
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you guys know that Imprudence is also runned by a group of griefers that did grid wide attack back in 2005- 2007, right?
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Hey Cris your own forum broke this story in an almost unrelated thread Conspiracy theory got trumped by conspiracy facts!

The Emerald Problem: A conspiracy theory.

Read on a few posts before the significance gets realised.
This really is significant enough to get it's own thread though.

This is probably the most fucked up thing Emerald has done. Not only was it an illegal attack, but they involved ALL of their users who logged in between August 8th and August 17th in it without them knowing.

They don't even have a halfway decent excuse or spin for it. Their post explaining it as "silly shenanigans" is laughable bullshit.

LL really can't ignore this anymore. One way or another they're making a decision, either they go "We're okay with all the fucked up stuff Emerald is doing", or they go "We don't agree with this, and here's what we're going to do about it." Even if they say nothing at all, they're making a choice (namely, the first one).
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