Sveid Heidenstam

I await Emerald-Snowglobe with bated breath. In the meantime, is there a preferred channel through which to bend the collective ear of Emerald's developers? I'd still like to see if Emerald is capable of continuing to surpass Linden Lab by improving the camera placement and options.

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Chalice Yao

Well, we have kind of too many channels, but we have them.

* Forums at Forum

* The in-world SL group 'ModularSystem Ltd.' (I hope I didn't typo that one)

* A public Skype text chat. Anybody can ask for an invite

* The IRC channel (which is also set as a default in the new IRC tab...tho, it's actually one of the resources we don't keep an eye at too much.

* Private IMs, of course. Most devs have their SL names on the list. Those that don't don't want to deal with support hell mostly ;P

* Several hang regularly in the sim Emerald Point. It's a sandbox/rental, kind of Emerald themed in some spots for obvious reasons.

I'd say Forum and Skype and last but not least IMs are the most sure way to get attention.

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Dick McMinnar

I was looking through the Emerald hints n' tips at Hints, Tips, and Questions - Emerald and I came across this...
Nu chit? I suppose they can detect this by listening on the appropriate channel? I want one!

By the way Chalice. I wanna thank ya for the help and advice ya've given here. I've often found good advice from you before I even knew what question I wanted ta ask!

I've reminded myself of something tho. Does anyone have a list of useful, fun or bizarre debug settings? I've scrolled through the list and wondered what many do, but I'm too much teh coward to change things that I dunno what they do!

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Chalice Yao

Heeh :3 Yeah, it is possible, -if- you are setting the channel that fits the target avatar, listen for it while they are nearby, -and- they open a profile. It will show the key of the person the profile was opened of.

Awww. Thank you I try..I still like SLU most as the channel to provide help and feedback.

Welllll...I have two Emerald debug settings that aren't in the preferences yet >_>

ctrl+alt+shift+s
Check those that begin with 'EmeraldAppearance'
Set to FALSE

combine with a disabled ApperanceMoveCamera (I think that was the other LL debug setting) and you get appearance mode without standing up, without being animated, and without the camera moving. wee.

Dick McMinnar

OMGZ! That's just the kinda thing I've wanted but didn't think was likely! I have an anim that mimics the "Edit Appearance" pose, but periodically my AV will reach back n' scratch his butt or sniff his armpit. I've often wished I could use taht anim instead of teh usual one!

ETA: Doesn't work tho, apparently teh client wun't allow ya ta run other anims in Edit Mode, een with it's own turned off. Any chance of adding a "EmeraldAppearanceAnim" ta let one spec their own anim for in Edit mode?

MoxZ Mokeev

Looks like I'm the last in all of SLU to download this viewer. I'm halfway there...crosses fingerz.

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Chalice Yao

Remember to also install the proprietary addon pack. It contains voice, faster graphics library etc. :3

if you have issues with the 'opto' version of the client, try normal. Many people have reported it actually running better.

Innula Zenovka

Chalice, you mention Modular Systems Ltd as an in-world group that can be used for support. I'm a member of LordGregGreg's group (I didn't know about the Modular Systems group), which I've been using for support when I need it. Since I'm maxed out on groups, if I join Modular Systems I'll have to leave something, and LordGregGreg's is the obvious choice. Since I can only belong to one, which would you recommend?

MoxZ Mokeev

Is this the addon I need Chalice? Sorry to be such a dummy, but I'm not entirely too savvy about all of the different viewers and what's what.
GreenLife_Propriatary_YOU_NEED_THIS_FOR_SPEED_v7.e xe (2.44 MB)

or this...
GreenLife_Proprietary_Pack_Voice-Support-FPS-Boost.exe (2.44 MB)

or both?

VictoriannaWriter

I'm hearing that Emerald is causing alot of lag in sl. Especially when there's alot of ppl in one location that is using Emerald. Will this be fixed? I had to switch viewers because I too was receiving alot of issues with Emerald so I'm on Rainbow right now.

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Innula Zenovka

I think you get a lot of lag anyway when there's a lot of people in one place, no matter what viewer they are using, don't you?

Charles_D

That seems to be the biggest factor in FPS -- other people.

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katiem1066

My biggest issue is scultpies look, umm, mangled, even when fully rezzed. Is there a known fix for this?

hardware:
Intel Core2 Duo 2.93 GHz
4 MB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Win XP

VictoriannaWriter

Actually no. I usually don't have any issues with lag unless i'm at a place that is extremely laggy originally and even then i don't really lag.

Beezle Warburton

A few things to consider:

A) The "Share the settings with the regular SL client" can be a tad maddening. Is there a reason Emerald doesn't use it's own settings? {edit: Nevermind, was the result of a bad shortcut}

B) Emerald needs to possibly take over the file association for SLURL's without having to install the LL client and tweaking Firefox.

C) Friends list Import needs to exclude yourself.. I now have an alt who I let import my friends list, now the poor bastard gets emailed daily that he's trying to friend himself:

How would he go about clearing this up? I'd put in a ticket with LL, but I'm not sure they'd do anything as this was caused by a third party browser.

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Emuna Zamani

I miss Emerald. It will not work on my new computer for some reason.

VictoriannaWriter

Me too.....but it keeps crashing me and lagging me so bad

Innula Zenovka

I think you can improve things a lot in Emerald by tweaking your PC's settings. I certainly found things ran a lot better in Windows XP, for example, when I increased the virtual memory available to my system (Start-Control Panel-System-Advanced-Performance-Advanced (again) -Virtual Memory to the maximum it recommended.

There are a couple of other tweaks I've applied, on the recommendation of people who know about Windows (which I certainly don't, so I don't want to mislead people by trying to suggest stuff I don't really understand).

If there are any Windows experts who could give us some hints.. or direct to some .. about settings to tweak to get things working well in Emerald, that would be really helpful for a lot of people, I think.

Dick McMinnar

Heh, it was ineitable!

https://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/mod...ItemID=1911389

katiem1066

Emerald, and SL in general are extremely dependent on your individual hardware. For instance, Emerald crashes unless I turn all my graphics card's settings to the maximum. I have no idea why (ATI Radeon 4850). So the tweaks that work for me probably won't work for other people.

That said, I had issues with Emerald crashing without warning until I installed the add-on pack (the one with voice and a couple other things). Again, I have no idea why this stopped Emerald from crashing, but it did. (I have the same problem in snowglobe: freqeuncy but it doesn't have an add-on pack)

So I guess I would provide three general recommendations:
1. Experiment with your graphics card's settings, if your driver software allows you to. Adjust one thing at a time and see if Emerald behaves better.

2. Install the add-on pack if you haven't already.

3. Defrag your hard drive. The built-in windows utility kind of sucks; find some third-party software.

Oh yah, and have lots and lots of RAM

Toritoys Tigerpaw

Disappointing, this one was a gimme and it took a month for someone to jump on it!

Sobriquet Kryakutnoy

I don't understand why a device like that should exist. Couldn't the LSL bridge generate a random channel on attach (or on request) and pipe it back to the client over a private channel for security purposes?

I've never poked at the viewer source, but it seems like Emerald should be able to pick out a specially formatted llInstantMessage containing information on which public channel it may use to communicate with the LSL bridge.

ETA: I personally don't think the ability to watch who is polling whose profile is really that big of a deal, but I do understand why some people find it to be a security issue.

Charles_D

That's just odd. Why would you care if people poke yer profile, that's what it's there for o.O

VictoriannaWriter

I'm a computer tech in RL and i've tweaked as much as possible still looking around for more tweaks. Your virtual memory you want it to 1 1/2 times set over to what you have in your system. It needs room for the paging file when your system does the post at startup. (sorry for the "geek" talk lol...habit)

Charles_D

Expanding on this a bit:

It's been a fallacy in the gaming community that turning off the cache "MAEKS U MOAR LEET" or some such silliness. Just leaving it set to "System managed" generally works fine. This isn't Windows 95 anymore.

ZOMG U MITE GIT 3 LEZZ FPS IN 3DMARK. Whatever.

If you really feel compelled to set it manually:
Minimum size = 1.5x physical memory
Maximum size (for 1G or less of RAM) = 3x physical memory
Maximum size (for more than 1G of RAM) = 2x physical memory

Note: depending on your version of Windows, 4095 might be the maximum size you can set it to. (Use 4095 for both minimum and maximum if you have more than 2G if this is the case)

One option that *may* help is to set minimum the same as the maximum. This may keep the page file from getting chopped up (fragmented) if windows needs to expand it.

The best thing is to actually have an entirely separate drive for it (This is what I sort of do -- I have a third drive that's only for storage and I have the first partition on it set to hold the page file. There won't be any access to this drive when I'm gaming

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Also, I use third-party program instead of the windows Defragmenter -- Diskeeper. That's just what I use -- there are others out there. Not only does it do a better job than the Windows defragment, it allows for idle-time defragmentation.