SLUniverse Forums - View Single Post - Well, I don't think the lab is gonna budge on the price hike.

caroline ra · 10-31-2008, 04:24 PM

I dont have Rosies pleasant disposition so youll have to pick the bones out of this lot for yourselves.

Chapter 1

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[12:20] Jorge Serapis: Yay, Robin!!!
[12:20] Bob Bunderfeld: Wasn't that the day I was there giving them a bunch of crud about New Residents
[12:20] xstorm Radek: hi Robin
[12:20] Bob Bunderfeld: Oh looking

[12:20] Bob Bunderfeld: Lookie
[12:20] Robin Linden: Hi all . I'm so sorry to be so late
[12:20] Nika Talaj: Hi, Robin, very cute!
[12:20] xstorm Radek: wish to have my place ?
[12:20] Spencer Dharnen: whew! I am so glad you are here!
[12:20] Nika Talaj: happy Halloween!
[12:20] Robin Linden: I was stuck in a meeting that wouldn't quit
[12:20] xstorm Radek: i will get up
[12:20] Bob Bunderfeld: But yuou have a very important accouncement?
[12:20] Bob Bunderfeld: announcement
[12:20] Chaley May: what happened in the meeting?
[12:20] Spencer Dharnen: Robin, I need to ask you one very important yes or no question
[12:21] Justice Razor: let's let spencer go first, he has to leave and his question is imp0ortant
[12:21] Chaley May: hope they talked and decided to cancel the rise in OS sims
[12:21] Spencer Dharnen: Robin, in light of the banning of $Z casinos and Bicky Bean casinos, is the charity casino model we discussed (instead of winning money, one can exchange tokens for moderately priced, donated, non-transferrable in-world merchandise that can't be auctioned) still viable and (to the best of your knowledge) allowable by Linden Labs?
[12:21] Bob Bunderfeld: BTW - This is LEGAL in Hong Kong
[12:21] Robin Linden: spencer, nothing has changed since the last time we spoke.
[12:22] Robin Linden: Is there something that came up that I don't know about?
[12:22] Bob Bunderfeld: lol
[12:22] Bob Bunderfeld: Just prices
[12:22] Spencer Dharnen: Yes....$Z Casinos, once approved by linden labs, were recently banned
[12:22] Spencer Dharnen: Aargle Zymurgy's venture
[12:22] Robin Linden: well Bob that probably doesn't affect Spencer's question.
[12:22] Bob Bunderfeld: Not yet

[12:23] Bob Bunderfeld: I was just saying, this is the same real world model used in Hong Kong
[12:23] Robin Linden: spencer I'll have to ask the lawyers.
[12:23] Spencer Dharnen: So I just wanted to make sure that what you and In Kenzo and I duscussed was still possible
[12:23] Robin Linden: I can't speak with any authority about this.
[12:23] Spencer Dharnen: How do I get back to you about it?
[12:23] Spencer Dharnen: Or will you get back to me?
[12:24] Robin Linden: robin@lindenlab.com
[12:24] xstorm Radek: if you look it still says there is no gambling
[12:24] Spencer Dharnen: well, this isnt gambling, per se
[12:24] Bob Bunderfeld: It's not gambling
[12:24] Spencer Dharnen: it's more like what you do at a Dave and Busters
[12:24] Jorge Serapis: (My kitten just shredded my lap to ribbons chasing the butterflies on your land, Robin..!)
[12:24] Spencer Dharnen: you play gambling games, but you cant win money
[12:24] xstorm Radek: if a person is using lindens then it is gambling
[12:24] Spencer Dharnen: you can win chips/tokens/tickets with which you can redeem for prizes
[12:25] Spencer Dharnen: the lindens paid into the system are charitable donations
[12:25] Bob Bunderfeld: Storm, I hate to mince words with you, but you are wrong

[12:25] Spencer Dharnen: so, i dont want to take up a ton of your time
[12:25] xstorm Radek: then make it free
[12:25] Robin Linden: spencer - can you please IM me your email address and I'll see what I can find out
[12:25] Spencer Dharnen: thank you for letting me ask
[12:25] xstorm Radek: no lindens at all
[12:25] Spencer Dharnen: I will.....certanly, Robin....thank you.
[12:25] Bob Bunderfeld: The FBI and Justice Dept,.would say differently
[12:25] Spencer Dharnen: Ill also give you the notecard with the basic outline of the model on it.
[12:26] Spencer Dharnen: thank you, everyone
[12:26] Robin Linden: great - that's a huge help
[12:26] Spencer Dharnen: i appreciate your consideration!
[12:26] Bob Bunderfeld: No problem Spencer

[12:26] Spencer Dharnen: :-)
[12:26] Chaley May: Spencer... Sell something and with purchase you join into a free game/raffle or whatever it is to win prizes
[12:27] xstorm Radek: well when people get free lindens from the gaming group to go and use there toys then it may not be seen as gambling
[12:27] Justice Razor: about the opensim pricing... if you grandfathered in all the current OS holders then nobody would loose their sims because their business models can't work under the new structure and it would slow the growth of land, increasing population density and boosting the sl economy... would you consider this solution to the problem?
[12:27] Bob Bunderfeld: Or take PayPal payments and circumvent using Lindens all together

[12:27] xstorm Radek: thats how i see it
[12:28] Robin Linden: so I had two questions for you today. First is wrt open space pricing.
[12:28] Bob Bunderfeld whispers: I'm so glad I'm not the one doing the questioning today

[12:28] Robin Linden: I know everyone is unhappy about it. What I'd like to hear from you is how you would solve the resource allocation problem.
[12:28] Chaley May: yes make 2 prices
[12:28] xstorm Radek: but i put a lot of money into trying to help others and do not wish to see all the scammers take there money away from them
[12:28] Chaley May: one for fair low usage sims which stays at its current price
[12:28] Chaley May: and let the commercial sims that abused it pay
[12:28] Bob Bunderfeld: Hold on, first prove to me there is a RESOURCE ALLOCATION Issue
[12:29] Robin Linden: Second is about the blog. Lots of people are unhappy with the current information that's there.
[12:29] Bob Bunderfeld: That is a statement that really needs some justification Robin
[12:29] Justice Razor: yes, I don't think it existe either
[12:29] Ciaran Laval: You work with the estate owners and help them gauge resource allocation Robin. You also stop selling the product until that is resolved
[12:29] Robin Linden: Hopefully you've seen what's holding us up.
[12:29] Bob Bunderfeld: If using OS's are such Resource Hogs, can you tell me why no less then 15 OS were used in the construction of Nautilus?
[12:29] Bradley Palmer: restrict agents and scripts and keep the fees the same and for those who want to rack it high apply the higher charges maybe
[12:29] Robin Linden: What would you like to see on the front page of the blog, recognizing that Torley and other more specific information will come back in other, topical blogs?
[12:29] xstorm Radek: there is to many people crying on the blogs about open sims